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Edward Troxel October 23rd, 2004 09:57 AM

The product being sold at those outlets is the "Movie Studio" version - not the full version of those products.

Yi Fong Yu October 23rd, 2004 12:34 PM

but still, @least there is ads on these things! i mean for the longest time vegas was the most under-represented product on the market... now that is about to change.

Monte Casey October 23rd, 2004 01:05 PM

FYI: Your login process seems to be non functional, i tried a few times yesterday, and today...

I too would like to know of this contest

Richard Alvarez October 23rd, 2004 01:19 PM

I wouldn't count on it changing by much. I was reading up on Sony's high-end hidef editing system ... the Xpri I believe it is called. Very impressive system, designed to go head to head with the high end Avid systems. (And costing big bucks.) My guess is that Sony will find itself in the same conundrum as Avid. Why migrate high end aspects of their software down to the low end... when you can sell it at a higher price/profit margin in the high end?

Watch and wait.

Dwight Flynn October 23rd, 2004 06:51 PM

Edward Troxel and 24 frame conversion
 
Edward has a free vegas 5 plugin or script (I think) for converting to 24 frames in vegas (I believe it also creates a filmic look). Does anyone know what it is called and where I can find it?

Thanks

Edward Troxel October 23rd, 2004 10:41 PM

It's listed in the "Free Scripts" section at the link under my name.

Dwight Flynn October 24th, 2004 12:26 AM

Thanks Edward, I will look it up.

Kaku Ito October 24th, 2004 09:58 AM

Rob,
I would imagine from what we heard from Sony Pictures about Vegas being "already works", then guessing it IS working, but actually not.
Mark is trying to edit with the files I posted with Vegas 5 and he is saying no problem at least to edit.

ConnectHD is distributed in Japan by a company I know, so I will ask them to provide it for testing.

And Bill, which card is working? Like Bubble fish? We sell a lot of Decklink HD so, if Decklink HD works it would have been super.

Bill Ravens October 24th, 2004 10:21 AM

http://cineform.com/products/ConnectHD.htm

Ray Gnaw October 24th, 2004 06:37 PM

24fps + Widescreen?
 
Hello!

I just finished a project and would like to import it onto my Sony TRV-10. But I have been having trouble getting it to be 24fps, or even, widescreen. I would really appreciate any advice on getting either, or both, effect to work.

Thanks so much!

edit: I'm using Vegas 5.0b

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 02:38 AM

Doesn't work here either. It gives an ASP error that it cannot
instatiate an object. Same happens when I try to retrieve my
password (think I forgot it).

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 03:48 AM

Kaku: I think they are referring to the fact it can *EDIT* the files,
they just "forget" to tell us it can't capture the files (yet). Doh!

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 04:08 AM

Welcome aboard Ray! I'm not exactly sure what you are doing?
Are you capturing the footage from your Sony camera to your
computer or do you want to transfer your edited footage back
from the computer to your camera?

In both cases the camera will not support 24 fps. It will probably
also not support 16:9 anamorphic widescreen. However, if your
output is DVD (for example) you can simulate both if you want
to after the capture process.

If you give us some more information on what you are trying to
do exactly then we can better stear you in the right direction!

Michael Morlan October 25th, 2004 02:35 PM

The reason to migrate high-end hardware features to software-only systems is to feed the purchase chain upwards. Having a major feature of a hardware-based system like Xpri in a software-only system like Vegas won't cannibalize Xpri sales. Those demanding true real-time performance and quick turnaround will still want the hardware. And those who, after becoming accustomed to neat features in a software only package, will migrate to high-end hardware as their demand for throughput increases.

Additionally, the high end stuff is the first to address the latest and greatest video standards - HD right now. Software based solutions can't hope to keep up until general purpose hardware (read: a PC or Mac) catch up. By then, the dedicated hardware has taken the next leap.

Discreet has proven this with its line of visual effects tools from the software only Combustion through the original Flame and Flint hardware series.

Richard Alvarez October 25th, 2004 04:28 PM

Yeah,
that's exactly the line of reasoning with Avid. They won't migrate stuff downward...

UNTIL a competitor puts it in their software only version. Then they move it down. Everytime FCP makes an "advance" on Avid Xpress DvPro... Avid unlocks the feature set and releases the feature to Xpress Pro owners. I've used a Composer, I know that the same features are "locked" in my XpressPro copy at home. And if I was un-ethical, I could by a crack to unlock it. OF course, the hardware accelerations are a seperate matter, but even the DNA line states that increasing CPU speed will increase program abilities.

Andre Andreev October 25th, 2004 05:34 PM

Try it out
 
Make sure you download the 30-day evaluation of Vegas/Architect and see if it has the capabilities (FX-wise) that you need.

Although it has great compositing, titiling, color correction and lots of useful effects, Vegas is more of an editor. If you need a full-blown compositing environment like AfterEffects, then you might have to go with that.

As a package offering a logical interface, very comprehensive editing features and strong comppositing capabilities, Vegas is a very economical (as in $$$ and "required processing power") and efficient combination.

It might be helpful if you list the features you are looking for.

Regards
-- Andre

Glenn Chan October 25th, 2004 10:52 PM

Premiere Pro 1.5 and Vegas are much better than Premiere.

Premiere Pro: better stability, less button-pushing. In Premiere 6.0, you might take multiple button pushes to do something that might take two in Premiere/Vegas. Premiere 6.0 also lets you lose sync, which is really annoying.
Vegas: Same as Premiere, except built into the program are a great set of audio tools, color correction, and compositing tools. You can get better compositing with After Effects or combustion if you need to do really crazy stuff.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 07:33 AM

New Build of Ultimate S
 
http://www.vasst.com/ultimate/version_descriptions.htm
Hey guys, hope you're enjoying Ultimate S thus far. We've uploaded a new build that took care of a couple things, and added a new feature regarding J/L cuts based on user request.
Download the new build if you wanna check it out.
New build is 1.0.2

thanks to all for the great feedback!

Ray Gnaw October 26th, 2004 07:32 PM

Thanks for your help Rob!

I'm trying to import footages onto my Sony that might come out to 24fps and widescreen. But now that I know it cannot, is there anyway I can make a DVD disc with a regular CD-RW, or do I need to buy a DVD burner?

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 08:32 PM

Except for certain 3D extrusions and motion tracking (not the same as track motion) AE doesn't have any more bells and whistles than Vegas. Once you start getting into plugs, AE has more to offer, but as mentioned, you might as well learn Combustion. I've all but quit using AE except for very specific things. It's a good app, but there are better alternatives these days, IMO.
Vegas' compositing tools will benefit most people to their fullest needs/desires.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 08:34 PM

I can manually send you your password.
We recently moved to a much bigger, more robust server. However, our ISP also has a spam prevention tool that is currently preventing us from sending mails automatically from the system. So, we're either on the hunt for a new ISP that can serve our needs, or we find a workaround. T.J. has been manually sending passwords all weekend.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 09:02 PM

There is no way to create a DVD with a CD burner. You can put MPEG on a CD in a CD Burner, and some set top players and most computer systems will play it, but that's really just an SVCD, which Vegas can also do from the toolbar/timeline.

Ron Guilmette October 27th, 2004 11:44 AM

Stutter in Vegas problem
 
I have a project and I'm having problems with the video stuttering just before and during a crossfade. It gets even worse when using a velocity envelope. so bad that is totaly unexceptable.I'm using Vegas 5a.

any ideas as to what might be causing this?
I edited the clips down to what I wanted using the S key, If that makes a difference. can't see that it would, just thought I'd through that in there. I defrag often so I don't think it's that......

My system:
P4 2 gig/ 512mb of ram/ 3 hard drives, C: windows XP
D: Vegas software E: audio files used buy Sonar V: all media files associated with Vegas ( 160 gig sata drive).
F: windows swap files (completly seperate drive for windows and Vegas.

Are there any windows services that Vegas needs?
some have been shut off to save resources. It was recomended in a "how to tune windows XP for audio" artical.

Any help would save me from a mental breakdown, as this is happening in the middle of a paying gig.

Don Bloom October 27th, 2004 12:43 PM

Are you seeing the stutter in the preview window? If so check the foolwing things. 1) check the Opacity levels at Track Level. Sometimes without realizing it we hit the slider and move it just a bit and that can be a problem. 2nd, how do you have the preview window set? If it's set to best or even Good Full lower it tp Preview (auto) or Full and that will hopefully eliminate the stutter.
With Vegas being a software dependent program sometimes the computer can't keep up when the preview is set to best quality.
Check the work thru the preview screen at Preview quality and then FW thru to an NTSC monitor or even a good TV to check for color correction and make sure all is as it should be.

Hope that helps,
Don B

Ron Guilmette October 27th, 2004 01:51 PM

I'll check opacity. I do have preview set to full best so I'll change that and see what happens.
Thanks for the ideas.

Edward Troxel October 27th, 2004 03:24 PM

I'm betting if you look at the framerate below the preview screen that it is dropping during that point. One thing you can do to quickly bring it back up to speed is a RAM Render of that transition.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 27th, 2004 06:47 PM

Hey gang,
Many of you have been uploaders and downloaders on the VASST file sharing site.
As you've seen, we're undergoing significant construction there, having just moved to a new, much larger and faster server. We've experienced a few bumps along the way, but we're growing it as best we can.

Anyway, your input about what you'd like to see different on the site would be appreciated. With nearly 1000 training resources up there for Sony, Adobe, and Ulead products (mostly Sony) it's getting difficult to sift through it all, so a customized search tool is already in progress.
We'd really appreciate hearing from you regarding improvements to the site. We're not going to go down the forum road, it seems there are far and away enough of those. We'll listen to everything you have to say, but may not implement all suggestions.

On another note, has anyone noticed that the new server is faster?

Brian Munt October 27th, 2004 11:19 PM

Vegas Veg Files
 
I am relatively new to Vegas. I am confused on these veg files. These are a project files I realize but I have seen some veg files at various places for download. These are mainly title affects and things. I am having trouble importing them into my project if I wanted to use any of them. When I do it closes out the file I am working with and opens the new veg file.
Is there a way to import them into a project and then modify them from there. What I am trying to do is use some of these premade things in a project and them modify it to suite my needs. Thanks for any help.

Kyle Ringin October 27th, 2004 11:51 PM

Brian,
Each session of Vegas can only have one project (.veg) open at a time. You can, however run as many sessions of Vegas as you want (or your system can handle).

You should be able to open two sessions and simply copy and paste the clips from one to another.

Phillip Jackson October 28th, 2004 03:39 AM

DVD Architect & DTS
 
Anyone know how i can put dts audio on a dvd using DVD Architect?

I have the dts audio files as .wav and .dts but just putting them in as audio tracks but don't work

any ideas? or is it DVD Architect just won't let me do DTS?

What Dvd authoring program will do dts?

Thanks

Ron Guilmette October 28th, 2004 06:03 AM

Would another stick of memory help?
One thing I did do and it helped alot was to up my dynamic ram setting. By default it was on 16 . I changed it to 64 and it made a huge difference.

I'll try rendering to ram on the tough looking stuff.

Scott Brickert October 28th, 2004 07:43 AM

Other stutter problem
 
Building a title sequence i keyframed the tracking and leading so that the letters start out all together then move apart to reveal the words. Rendering whether with PTT or to a new track results in the movement stutter or stairstepping as it goes out.

Same thing happened when keyframing the scale. I started with a huge font that put the text beyond the screen, the scaled it in. It renders out with stuttering.

On the other hand, in the same .veg file, i keyframed the position and color, these render out smooth.

Help. I'm running late with this wedding video.

Scott

P1.4M/512Mb/7200rpm external firewire drive/Vegas 5.0a

Edward Troxel October 28th, 2004 07:44 AM

That setting controls how much ram is used for ram renders so upping that number should help. If you add more ram then you can have even longer ram renders so, yes, it can help.

Edward Troxel October 28th, 2004 07:46 AM

You can do that one of two ways:

1) As Kyle said, open Vegas twice and copy from one instance to the other instance.

2) Open the effects project, modify as needed, and render. Now bring that render into your real project.

Scott Brickert October 28th, 2004 07:48 AM

rendering short
 
Using Render To New Track I selected a 20 minute segment and clicked on Render Loop Region. I only got the first 5 or so minutes. there's plenty of space on the hard drive. what am I missing?



Scott

P1.4M/512Mb/7200rpm external firewire drive/Vegas 5.0a

Peter Jefferson October 28th, 2004 07:49 AM

i dont bother with vegas titling anymore..
i use a nice cheap and effective program called BluffTitler and i set my background to a chroma key colour (usually green) or black if im in the mood to do some real compositing thru combustion

less than a hundred bux and it goes what boris graffitti does but its ALOT faster and easier to use.. better on PC resources too..

Scott Brickert October 28th, 2004 07:52 AM

firewire HDD and camera
 
It appears I cannot use one three port firewire card to both attach the hard drive, containing the footage and the .Veg file, plus the connection to the destination camera for recording a PTT. Using this setup, the picture on the camera's LCD starts jumping around and only a blue screen shows up, no image.

Anyone experienced similar problems? Any solutions?

Scott

Peter Jefferson October 28th, 2004 07:53 AM

maestro will do DTS..
I jsut got liquid six for the showroom so im still to expereiment with it, but i don think it does..

DTS production and trademark usage requires license aqcuisition, which isnt cheap.. which is why i dont use it.. it also eats up abotu twice as much as ac3

one thing to note if ur doing this for commercial purposes, you MUST inlude either an uncompressed PCM wav file, or an AC3 soundtrack.
DVD Comliance requires any one of these 2 formats as mandotory audio formats. DTS is an elective format which, when delivered, must also be included within the same package (not necessarily the same disc) as a conformed DVD using PCM or AC3.

if ur jstu doin it for person use, ignore what i jstu said..

Gary Kleiner October 28th, 2004 09:01 AM

You should be able to use this configuration. Using a different firewire card may solve this for you.

Gary

Sunny Dhinsey October 28th, 2004 09:57 AM

Vegas on a Mac?
 
I think I already know the answer to my own question, but I will ask it anyway!

Is there any possible way for me to run Sony Vegas 5.0 on an Apple Mac G4 PowerBook?

I am a Vegas user, which I have on my desktop, but would also like to run it on a laptop for mobility purposes. Rather than buy a new laptop, I was hoping I would be able to run Vegas on my Apple PowerBook.

I'm not a great fan or expert of the Apple interface so I don't know much about using Windows intended applications on it.

I am assuming my intentions are impossible, but if by some miracle there is a way to run Vegas on a Mac, would somebody please share knowledge!

Thank you very much guys!


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