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Glen Elliott October 28th, 2004 10:23 AM

I believe there are XP emulators out there that will allow you to run Windows programs on the Mac. It might be possible but more than likely very buggy. Vegas was written for the P4.

My suggestion- sell that overpriced hunk-o-...well you get the picture. And pick up something like a Toshiba widescreen laptop. More power and less $$ than the powerbooks.

Edward Troxel October 28th, 2004 10:58 AM

Short answer is: NO

You may be able to do some functions but I would not expect it to run well and I would not expect it to capture or print video. You can buy a $600 PC that runs it quite well, though.

Milt Lee October 28th, 2004 04:37 PM

multiple monitors
 
Hi Folks,

I hope this is just the easiest thing that I just don't know. I got the SAGER - 8790 and I really love it. And I got another monitor so I can move some of the Vegas stuff over to the other monitor. But I don't really know how to accomplish this.

Suggestions? Directions?

Thanks for the help - BTW - I think this forum is really about the best out there.

Thanks,
Milt

Gary Kleiner October 28th, 2004 06:30 PM

In XP, right-click on the desktop.
Choose Porperties > Settings>

Find the monitor and choose Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor.

Gary

Gary Kleiner October 28th, 2004 06:33 PM

Not sure..did you accidentally abort by hitting the keyboard?

Gary

Brian Munt October 28th, 2004 07:20 PM

Vegas Veg Files
 
Thank you Kyle and Ed for your help. If I was to open the veg file and modify it as needed and render the file what would be the best for format to render it to. I am thinking a standard avi file. Would that be correct or would there be something better.

Edward Troxel October 28th, 2004 07:59 PM

That depends a little on exactly what you want to do. If you want to use the alpha channel (so the black background is transparent) you will need to render to uncompressed AVI. If you just want to bring the title over as a regular clip, DV-AVI is fine.

Kyle Ringin October 28th, 2004 08:04 PM

Best to render it to an uncompressed avi or a lossless codec like Huffyuv to give best quality for any output. Just remember to render it at the same resolution, frame rate, etc as the destination project so you don't get funky motion and other wierdness.

Remember if you want to tweak it you'll have to return to the other project, tweak, then rerender, then reimport. That's why in situations like this I tend to work all in one project. Sounds like it doesn't apply to your situation though.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 28th, 2004 08:16 PM

Hawaii
 
To any/all in Hawaii or those planning on visiting the islands during the Sony Hawaii Expo at the Ala Moana Hotel on November 2-4, the Hawaiian Vegas Users Group will be having a small get together.
Would love to see/meet some of you! We've always had a great time in the past. Especially when Randy Stewart takes us to the out-of-the-way places only the locals know about. :-)

Drop me a note if you'd like to hang w/us. dse at sundancemediagroup dot com

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 28th, 2004 08:19 PM

Usually this is relevant to the card sharing additional resources with other hardware or software resources.
Try moving the card to a new slot, or as Gary suggested, shoot for another card.
Generally, this is no problem unless you are running an OHCI card that has a VIA chipset on it, and even then, the newer VIA chipsets aren't having issues.
I've got one machine with THREE cards in it, all connected to various devices. (beta machine)

Brian Munt October 28th, 2004 09:10 PM

OK Great that sounds simple enough. I will just render as an uncompressed avi then bring that into the project or if it a simple
veggie I will just copy and paste and work from there.
Thank You for all you help...

Scott Brickert October 28th, 2004 09:47 PM

Are you saying if I hit any key while Vegas is the 'active' program, that it will abort the render?

I think I might have checked email or surfed the web a bit.

Thanks

Scott

Gary Kleiner October 28th, 2004 10:29 PM

Space bar, and perhaps a few more WILL certainly abort your render if Vegas has the focus.

Gary

Terry Thompson October 28th, 2004 11:49 PM

Re: Stutter in Vegas problem
 
"I edited the clips down to what I wanted using the S key, If that makes a difference. can't see that it would, just thought I'd through that in there. I defrag often so I don't think it's that......"

I know this is a stupid question (and it might have been asked as I haven't read all the posts) but did you leave enough room at the beginning and end of your clips to allow for disolves etc.?

I have noticed that if I don't have enough of the clip for my disolve it will do strange things like start the clip over at the end where the disolve is.

Terry

Terry Thompson October 28th, 2004 11:59 PM

Where is Stockton, UT
 
Cool name for your company. Where is Stockton, UT?

Interesting solultion. I have a lot to learn. I've been looking for a way to do split screens for side by side comparisons of the before and after shots using my stabilization system.

I love Vegas even thought I don't like to edit that much. I do like the end results.

Terry

Vance Osborne October 29th, 2004 02:17 AM

Frame Holds!!
 
Hi All,
Quick question;
In Premiere, you can perfom what is called a "frame hold"...
Can you do the same thing in Vegas 4? And if so, what is the procedure/location of the ability?

Thank you!

Sunny Dhinsey October 29th, 2004 02:45 AM

Thank you for your responses, I guess there are a number of points that are encouraging me to buy a new Windows based laptop instead:

1) As Glen said, the program may be buggy and was written for P4

2) As Edward said, it may not capture/print video (which I need ;-)

3) I hate the Mac interface/environment. (I was originally taken by the smart look of the PowerBook)

Thanks!

Sunny Dhinsey October 29th, 2004 02:52 AM

What do you mean by 'frame hold'?

I assume you are referring to literally holding the image still on one particular frame (i.e freeze framing).

If so, this is easily done in Vegas.

First of all add a velocity envelope to the clip upon which you wish to perform the freeze frame. Then locate the precise frame from which you wish to freeze the motion clip. At this location, add 2 points on the envelope line and set the latter one to a speed of 0% and line it up with the previous point (please check after dragging that it is still on 0%).

This is how I usually perform this action. I'm sure there are other ways to do this.

Hope this helps!

Sunny Dhinsey October 29th, 2004 03:01 AM

I suppose the only thing you have to take into consideration whilst attempting the effect as outlined by DSE, is the movement of natural light.

For example, if you have sunlight coming in through a window, it may have changed position from when you filmed the first portion of your sequence (i.e you on the left) to the second portion (you on the right). It is likely that this may result in differences in the two halves of the picture.

You would need to make sure that there are no noticeable differences/changes in light position.

If you are shooting in a totally self lit environment, then you should have no problem, providing the lighting is not altered in any way for the two independent shots.

Edward Troxel October 29th, 2004 07:25 AM

If you mean create a freeze frame, yes this can be done in a variety of ways. I use a velocity envelope and change the speed to 0% to accomplish this.

If you mean have a keyframe that holds until the next keyframe, just right-click the keyframe and choose "Hold" as the type.

Edward Troxel October 29th, 2004 07:29 AM

Re: Re: Stutter in Vegas problem
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Terry Thompson : I have noticed that if I don't have enough of the clip for my disolve it will do strange things like start the clip over at the end where the disolve is.

Terry -->>>

That's they beauty about Vegas. Instead of needing to keep head/tails, just overlap the clips! However, if you DO add a transition in such a way that the clips extend then you must make sure you have room to extend.

The "start the clip over" is actually optional. You can also have it "freeze the last frame". Just right-click that event, choose Properties, and UNCHECK "Loop".

Edward Troxel October 29th, 2004 07:31 AM

Once you start the render, try minimizing Vegas.

When the render is started, the "cancel" button is selected by default. If you press "TAB", it will change the focus to the checkbox on that dialog box instead so you would be less likely to accidentally stop the render. My solution is usually to either minimize Vegas or just walk away from that machine.

Vance Osborne October 29th, 2004 12:46 PM

Hi, thank you for the replies!

A "frame-hold" is just a term used in Premiere to freeze a given frame for a lenght of time.
Instead of exporting a still frame, then re-importing it and dragging it out over the timeline, you can select a frame and tell premiere to freeze it on that frame.
You simply splice, then cut you desired frame, open your menu and select 'frame hold, in or out point', and then you now drag that one frame over the timeline for as long as you want, and it will appear to be "frozen" while playing back in realtime.

I was just trying to figure out if Vegas has the same type of command. I'm trying what you both have mentioned, but am having problems for some reason..
For some reason, after I apply a velocity envelope to my clip, I cannot adjust the speed. There's nothing for me to move around...where is that blue line that the help shows you to be able to move up and down to adjust the speed?

Vance Osborne October 29th, 2004 12:49 PM

oops...I had the timeline up to high, so I couldn't see it.
So, I found the velocity line to change the speed.
The problem is, how do I stretch one frame over the time line?

Vance Osborne October 29th, 2004 01:06 PM

hmmm...

I tried the "adding points" to the velocity line.

What I did was this:

1) I found my frame that I wanted to freeze
2) I then cut it and applied a velocity envelop to it
3) I made the velocity at 0% and added two points, beginning and end, both with the "hold" selection

It's not really working for me, for some reason...

All I want to do is to take a clip, divide it in two and separate them with a large gap. Then take the first half, take the *last* frame, cut it, then tell vegas that I want it to remain on the *one* frame while I drag it to fill the gap between the two main clips. Basically, making the video appear the have been frozen on that frame for a duration of time.

What am I doing wrong?
Thank you...

Edward Troxel October 29th, 2004 03:05 PM

First of all, you don't have to split (like you did in Premiere).

If you WANT to split, simply split on the proper frame, add a velocity envelope to the clip on the right, right-click the default first node, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

If you DON'T want to split, just add a velocity envelope to the clip, go to where you want the speed to stop, add a new node there set at 100%, move right 1 frame and add a new node there, right-click it, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

You might want to click on the link under my name and check out the newsletters. I have velocity changes well covered in one of the issues.

Vance Osborne October 29th, 2004 03:21 PM

Thank you Edward...I've just realized that Vegas approaches this totally different the Premiere...
And I just went to your site. Holy cow! Lots of info... thank you :)

Happy halloween guys!

Peter Jefferson October 29th, 2004 08:59 PM

one thing which hasnt been mentioned is the deinterlacing of the still frame..

vegas has a tendency to be a lil too accurate with the fields, and sometimes has the tendency to "flicker" that still image..
It could just be me, with my settings, but i havent set anything to deinterlace.

what i do, is export the precise frame i need... then reimport it as an image file.
When you export, u just make sure that the frame itself isnt a blended field, else youll get flickering due to the high resolution. even selecting the option to reduce the interlace flickering doesnt do all that much to assist.

other times i use the velocity method, one i hit zero, i then drag the clip fo ras long as i need the still to go for.

Another trick which doing that is to use teh pan/crop tool to add motion to the still... makes for a nice Matrix esque feel.. ehehehe

Scott Brickert October 29th, 2004 11:29 PM

i bought a new Adaptec 3 port firewire card with NEC chipset and installed it. This is a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with built in firewire port, so theoretically I have 4 ports on two adapters.

Using the PCMCIA Adaptec card, the hard drive installed and read OK. Plugged in the camera, and, after a delay, it came online. Was able to capture from the cam to the firewire hard drive with no dropped frames.

Attempting PTT failed. There were huge numbers of dropped frames and blue frames, the frame on the camera's LCD was jumping all over the place, so I cancelled it.

I tried connecting the camera via the built-in port, but it does not get recognized.

Both devices are using IRQ 11. Maybe that's why they don't operate simultaneously. anyone know how to change the IRQ assigned to a device? Or other ideas?

Help.

Scott

Terry Thompson October 30th, 2004 12:08 AM

Thanks Edward,

I'm always learning new things in Vegas that make editing less grusome. Sometime even fun.

Terry

Edward Troxel October 30th, 2004 07:03 AM

The frame on which you freeze definitely makes a difference. There's always the "reduce interlace flicker" option. However, the best bet is to pick a frame that doesn't flicker to begin with.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 30th, 2004 09:04 AM

Contest almost over
 
The VASST Veg contest is nearly over, get your submissions in before Tuesday if you want a shot at winning. Don't forget to vote.
Thanks for the support on the sharing site, we moved to a new server with additional bandwidth, and had our biggest download day ever yesterday. Amazing where everyone is coming in from!
http://www.vasst.com/login.htm

Bob Safay October 30th, 2004 09:25 AM

Question about Graphics on Vegas 5.
 
Hello all. I am doing an educational video for the communities living around the Oak Ridge Reservation in TN. Remember, this is where they built the atomic bomb. One of the shots I need is an aireal of the entire area and, overlaying arrows indicating wind direction. So the question is, can I create annimated arrows on Vegas 5, or do I need another program? Bob

Tor Salomonsen October 30th, 2004 01:00 PM

You can find many arrows in a font called Wingdings 3. Use them with the text genetrator and you can move them with the placement function (keyframes) or pan/crop.

Edward Troxel October 30th, 2004 06:51 PM

Pan/Crop can also be used to change the direction of the arrows as well as the position.

Milt Lee October 30th, 2004 09:47 PM

Just that easy! Thanks!!
Milt

Tor Salomonsen October 31st, 2004 05:03 AM

If you are using shadow effect (in text gen) rotating in pan/crop will change the direction of the shadow as well, which can look odd. Shadow in track motion will keep its position in relation to the frame, even when the image is rotated in pan/crop.

Rob Lohman October 31st, 2004 07:51 AM

I'm still not sure what you are trying to do Ray. What does
"that might come out to 24fps and widescreen" mean??

There is a format "called" miniDVD that allows you to put a DVD
structure on a CD. HOWEVER, this will NOT be playable in 99% of
the players out there and will store a very short clip only.

It is far better to go with a DVD burner which are cheap these days!

Bob Safay October 31st, 2004 09:24 AM

WOW, thanks guys. Not only do I have the arrows I need but by doing a series of arrows and using overlaps I get the annimation also. What a great program. Thanks again. Bob

Rob Lohman October 31st, 2004 09:43 AM

No consumer/prosumer application will do dts. Only the highend
stuff. If you do this for a personal project I would just encode
the WAV file to Dolby Digital AC3 and be done with it.


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