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Simon Wyndham November 22nd, 2004 07:06 AM

Or the lighting effect filter.

Rob Lohman November 22nd, 2004 07:33 AM

Which exact version of DVDA are you using? It might also be the
player that is messing up, ofcourse.

John Hudson November 22nd, 2004 12:54 PM

YEah that's why I put FYI. :P

Kevin A. Sturges November 22nd, 2004 03:37 PM

Try Googling DVD Shrink. It's free, and it's a great program.

Tony Hall November 22nd, 2004 09:08 PM

NTSC Photoshop presets and Vegas
 
I'm new to the Vegas forum, so I don't know if this has been discussed, but I've noticed that when designing graphics for Vegas you don't have to do anything special as far as pixel aspect ratios are concerned.

As a matter of fact it seems that Vegas maintains an images correct aspect ratio when you place it on the timeline.

To be more specific, I was designing some graphics in Photoshop to import into Vegas using the "NTSC DV 720x480 with guides" preset. It supposedly does pixel aspect ratio correction so you can see what your image will look like on an NTSC monitor. However, when I import the image into Vegas, I see that it's already trying to interpret square pixels into DV pixels and I get a distorted image on my video monitor.

Has anyone else had any expirience with this?

I do find the "NTSC colors" filter useful for designing video graphics.

Don Donatello November 23rd, 2004 12:51 AM

if you have photoshop CS you can set preference up for non square pixels and for NTSC colors ...

if using a earlier version of PS then use 655x480 (not 720x480) or that relationship between width & height ....

Rob Lohman November 23rd, 2004 07:43 AM

I'm a bit confused. But if Vegas should not use the 1.0 pixel aspect
ratio you can right-click on an event (footage on your timeline),
go to properties and then you can set the pixel aspect ratio for
that footage if you need to.

So if you made a picture at 720 x 480 in photoshop you should
change the pixel aspect ratio in Vegas to NTSC DV (0.9091)
instead of square pixels (1.0), or do what Don instructed
(which is the other way around).

Tony Hall November 23rd, 2004 11:04 AM

I guess an easier way to say it is: I can take any image (gif or jpeg) and drag it onto the timeline and Vegas automatically compensates for the difference by maintaining the image's aspect ratio. I can take a photo, put it on the timeline, and it automatically looks good on my video monitor. I guess that's a good thing because there's no need to do anything special.

I was initially confused because I had started out in Photoshop CS with one of their DV presets using the apect ratio "correction". However, all this isn't necessary because the image reflected in Photoshop's preview isn't what you get when you import into Vegas. What you get in Vegas is the original image with the original aspect ratio.

I guess Premiere must not work that way because when I looked in the Photoshop help topic, they said that this was necessary for creating graphics for Premiere.

Bill Piedra November 24th, 2004 12:42 AM

Output from Vegas to JVC D-VHS
 
I'm starting to do some work with the SONY HDR-FX1 Camera and was wondering if anyone knew if you can record the 1080i footage edited in Vegas 5 (print to tape) to the JVC D-VHS 30000.

I know from what I have heard that you can't record direct via firewire from the camera to the D-VHS deck because the SONY HDR-FX1 doesn't output the same type of transport stream file at the JVC HD10.

Any ideas?

Jesse Bekas November 24th, 2004 01:04 AM

Missing cwdxpx1.dll
 
When I start Vegas 5, as the splash screen comes up, an error message also arises saying it can't find cwdxpx1.dll, and must close. The program opens and runs fine anyway, but I'd like to fix this.

I'm pretty sure it's just a Direct X file, and I have other copies of it in certain folders. I just need to know what folder Vegas looks for it in, so I can drop a copy into it.

Jesse Bekas November 24th, 2004 01:06 AM

Well I just dropped a copy of the file (from Soundforge) right into the main Vegas 5 folder, and it stopped asking for it on startup.

Hopefully this doesn't make anything else act crazy.

Maybe this thread to myself will be helpful for somebody esle. ;)

Ray King November 24th, 2004 04:44 AM

Sound fx, logos?
 
Hello all!

Where do I go to find some sound effects for my Vegas editing software? Namely, I need the general stuff like cars reving, and that sound that signifies entrance to a dream sequence.

Also,

Where can I find the BMW banner/logo at the end of their commercials, along with the "BMW. The Ultimate Driving Machine" voiceover?

Thanks in advance

Edward Troxel November 24th, 2004 07:25 AM

That file does not exist on my computer so It's not a part of the Vegas 5 install. Apparently it's a tool installed by some other app (perhaps soundforge) that vegas was having problems locating.

Edward Troxel November 24th, 2004 07:28 AM

You should be able to find those sounds simply by doing a search on the internet.

Dennis Adams November 24th, 2004 07:30 AM

If this is edited footage, it doesn't matter what the source footage stream type was.

You can render from Vegas 5 and print to the D-VHS deck, but you'll need a 3rd party tool to do the print-to-tape.

///d@
Sony Media Software

Bill Piedra November 24th, 2004 08:37 AM

Thanks would that third party tool be CINEFORM ConnectHD by any chance?

Jesse Bekas November 24th, 2004 10:10 AM

I didn't even think about the fact that I just installed the freeverb plugi-in as well. That probably has something to with it.

Tony Hall November 24th, 2004 10:56 AM

Ah, I just figured something else out. I was wondering how Vegas could be maintaining the aspect ratio of a 720x480 square pixeled image without cropping it. I just noticed that it adds a letterbox above and below because it's maintaining the 720x480 aspect ratio instead of the 4:3 aspect ratio.

Vegas' default settings when importing images is to "maintain aspect ratio". Is there any way to disable this for all images or do you have to do that one by one? It seems the easiest way to avoid confusion, albeit slightly lower resolution, is to just make graphics at 640x480 and let Vegas resample it.

It also seems that DVD architect doesn't do that. If you're making an image for the DVD background, it will stretch it to fit.

Dennis Adams November 24th, 2004 01:01 PM

ConnectHD should be able to do that, yes.

///d@

Mike Krum November 24th, 2004 03:34 PM

rendering help!!!
 
what do i need to do to get 24p and high quallity from my project. i use a sony pd150 just to let you know.

Mike Moncrief November 24th, 2004 05:44 PM

Title Safe ?
 
Hello,

Is there a Title Safe type overlay available when viewing the video preview within Vegas 5 ? I realize that when you go into the add some text using the text generator from withing Vegas, it does show the title safe area.. But I am looking for something to turn on and off on the Preview.. for Text or graphics that i import into Vegas. (If this is not an available option, then it may be a good suggestion for V6)

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving !!
Mike m.

Harris Ueng November 24th, 2004 06:10 PM

In your preview window, there's an icon that looks like a blue grid sitting right next to your preview quality drop-down menu. That's the overlay on/off switch. Click on the down arrow to bring up your overlay options and select "safe areas". When you turn on your overlays, the inner box is the "title safe" area. Oh, btw, the overlays don't appear if you're outputting to an external monitor through firewire, but only show up on your computer monitor.

Happy T-day to you, too!

Edward Troxel November 24th, 2004 09:19 PM

It's the one that looks kind of like "#" - but it has several different modes. Make sure you have "Safe Areas" chosen.

Sam Houchins II November 25th, 2004 01:09 AM

Odd Jitter on disc playback
 
Setup: I've removed an unwanted section of video that transitioned to the next section with a window flying / zooming in from the top right of the screen.

Attempted Solution: i used the pan / crop option to track that incoming clip, frame by frame for 19 frames to crop out the outgoing clip.

Problem: In Vegas 4 slow mo, frame by frame playback; full speed playback; and post rendering playback on the computer from file, excellent results. But when played back from DVD or SVCD, each keyframe has severe fluttering as if not panned properly. Each of the 19 frames seem to start off cropped adequately, but panned incorrectly (mis-positioned), then jumps to the corrected, edited position 19 times. I'm at a loss why it's doing this, and why it doesn't show either while editing or on playback (with Windows Media 10) from rendered file, but only on playback from burned disc.

In case it matters, a new 3d blinds transition is used going into this clip.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
Sam

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 02:57 AM

There are no easy answers to your question. It is far to broad.

High quality for what? It all depends on your input signal, your
ability to work with Vegas' tools and your output format (and
encoder you will use).

Also the PD150 does not offer 24 fps progressive recording, so
it does not make much sense to export out of Vegas at 24p. Have
you tried to export with one of the 24p templates to see what
happens and how it looks like?

The best judge of high quality is you and the easiest (and usually
the best way to learn/remember stuff) way to learn it is to go out
and play with the equipment, try the workflow, fiddle and see
which does what.

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 04:19 AM

Well, you are working with two different encodings (I believe). I
assume the disc you are talking about is a DVD disc and thus it
has MPEG2. So you are looking at a WM10 encode versus an
MPEG2 encoder. That's not good.

But first things first, which EXACT version of Vegas 4 do you have?
Are you running the latest version from the Sony site?

What I would do to try and pin down where the problem occurs
is to do the following:

1. output your timeline to a DV AVI file (like the ones you capture). Play this in windows media player to make sure the problem is not in the file.

2. start a new project in Vegas and load up the DV AVI file and compress that to MPEG2

== OR ==

2. start a new project in your DVD authoring application (I assume DVD Architect?) and load the DV AVI file in that and have it transcode it to mpeg2 for you

MAKE SURE that withing Vegas and your authoring applications
ALL THE SETTINGS are correct, especially on interlaced versus.
progressive and such!!!!

Make sure you try both ways (from above) if one still produces
this problem. If the problem is in the AVI file as well then something
else is going wrong. Otherwise it must be either the MPEG2
encoding or the playback on your player.

Mike Krum November 25th, 2004 07:16 AM

Vegas 4 and 5
 
Whats the difference between vegas 4 and 5 i own 4 and tryed 5 and the only thing that was different was the interface. am i missing somthing.

Mike Moncrief November 25th, 2004 07:26 AM

Thanks guys ! I learned something new !!

Happy Turkey Day !!
Mike m.

Mike Krum November 25th, 2004 07:46 AM

24p Question
 
When i go do export my footage out of vegas in 24p and play it back the audio and video skips. is this normal. is this what 24p is? if so i don't know why everyone likes it. it f***s up for video. plese help if im doing somthing wrong!!!

Edward Troxel November 25th, 2004 07:57 AM

Click the newsletter link below my name and look at the April 2004 newsletter. There are LOTS of differences including:

1) Bezier Masking tools
2) 3D Track Motion
3) Saving and recalling up to 10 different layouts
4) Automation Envelopes
5) Keyboard remapping

and many other things.

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 08:00 AM

Yes, you are missing a lot. A small look around the Sony Vegas
site had pointed you to the new features PDF (I found it in under
30 seconds):

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ewFeatures.pdf

Among the many many changes are:

- Enhanced track motion tools
- 3D motion and compositing
- Video track nesting
- Keyframable bezier masks
- Improved MPEG2 support
- Subtitle export to DVD Architect
- Automation
- ACID loop support
- Film-style 5.1 surround panning
- External surface control
- Oh yeah, and network rendering

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 08:06 AM

Mike: I'm going to say this again, do not start multiple threads
on topics. This thread already had a discussion on 24p and
rendering, so I've merged your new thread here.


Back to your question. As you can see from my original response
your camera has no 24p mode so what you are doing is converting
from 60i (interlaced) to 24p. I'm not at all suprised the video is
choppy. You are throwing away 6 (!) frames per second which
results in a choppy video. There might be better tools out there
to do the conversion, but it will never be as true captured 24p
(like the DVX or the XL2 cameras can do).

Danny Santos November 25th, 2004 08:43 AM

quick and dirty
 
I recently downloaded the trial version of Vegas 5 and having considerable hard time with it. I was able to capture videos from my camcorder and also able to bring in other video (AV) files from my HD into Vegas 5. What I don't know is how to trim and create (render) the trimmed video. That's all. I just want to get the feel of using this software before I buy it.

Any quick and dirty manual out there I can buy before my trial date expires? Thanks.

Danny

Edward Troxel November 25th, 2004 04:00 PM

Danny, click on the newsletter link beneath my name and read through the "Beginner's Corner" articles beginning in issue #4.

Rob Lohman November 26th, 2004 03:04 AM

To futher help you along, there is a thread here on DVi with a
quick reference PDF and some other goodies:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=20830

Just to give you a real quick start, the 's' key (on your keyboard)
splits a clip on the timeline (you can then delete a part to get
a trim), ofcourse there is also a full blown trimmer.

Output is done through File -> Render As

Enjoy!

David Ennis November 26th, 2004 10:19 AM

Can Vegas reduce reverb?
 
I see that my Vegas tryout version has many audio plugins. Will any of those, or any other scripts out there diminish the echo that's inevitable when recording a live performance indoors?

Graham Bernard November 26th, 2004 11:47 AM

Fred, echo<>reverb is one of the most difficult items to "flatten" . . . I'd suggest you get over to the Vegas or Sound Forge forum and do some searching . . seeyah there Pal!

Grazie

Glenn Chan November 27th, 2004 01:24 AM

Search for "acoustic mirror" on these forums and the Sony forums. Acoustic mirror and similar reverb plug-ins lets you model reverb in a room based on a recording of an impulse (i.e. clapping your hands). From this the plug-in can kinda work backwards and remove reverb.

That would be the best way of reducing reverb. Next worse is noise gate or noise reduction. Next best is ADR (does that count?). Similarly, does layering music on top count???

Kim Kinser November 27th, 2004 03:06 PM

External Preview Monitor Hook up help
 
I tried making my camcorders work to preview vegas on my tv but it never seemed to work.

SO ,,,, I bought the canopus advc-100 to solve the problem.

I have a firewire connection from the pc (6pin) to the advc-100 (4 pin) connection on the front of the unit.

I have the composite out of the rear of advc-100 going to the tv.

The advc is switched on and in digital-in mode.

I play a clip in vegas 4 and push the "preview on external monitor" button in the video preview window and ... nothing.

Windows xp sees the canopus advc-100 as "AVC compliant DV tape recorder/player"

What have I done wrong?

Thanks,

KIM

Kevin James November 27th, 2004 03:10 PM

USB Jog Shuttles
 
I was looking at this one:

http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/

Anyone using one, have any input on good and bad models?


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