Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Tony Rockliff · January 16th, 2005, 12:55 PM

There a few ways you can edit MPEG files without re-encoding but they all need external programs, a couple of which are free.

Mpeg2Schnitt and Cuttermaran both enable you to do simple but frame-accurate cuts and then save without re-encoding and both are free.

For more sophisticated MPEG editing without re-encoding there are VideoReDo, MPEG-VCR and TMPGEnc MPEG Editor, all at around $50. They only re-encode any changes (anything other than simple cuts).

For the ultimate in MPEG editing there is MPEG Video Wizard which has multiple tracks, transitions, filters/effects, titles, works with AC3 and has MPEG repair tools etc. etc. It's a bit pricier at $120 but does a great job. It also only re-encodes the changes so saving is very fast.

This is my first post too :)

Hello to all.

Tony

Edward Troxel · January 16th, 2005, 01:32 PM

4:42 is the 1Gig mark on an AVI file. For some reason WMP is only seeing the first gig of the file.

Josh Bass · January 16th, 2005, 01:53 PM

Ok, I guess that's a starting place. . .I suppose I could create the WMV file in Vegas instead of through the WMP encoder. . .maybe that would allow me to bypass the problem. I still find it odd I didn't run into this before.

Is there some 1 gig limit on WMP or something?

Thomas Edward Bufkin · January 16th, 2005, 03:41 PM

This was also posted on Non linear Editing on the PC but I thought I would try it here also.

Hey guys, please tell me what this means.

While building my new computer: P4-3.0; Asus Mobo/875 chipset; two Hitachi SATA 160's; Maxtor external 120 USB; one GIG Kingston Ram; Plextor DVD burner.

I loaded Vegas 5.0 on my old 500mgz machine; 128 ram; 10 gig IDE HD to play with it.

The problem I see when I go to Preferences/Video it says under Dynamic Ram Preview max 16 MB & only 16MB available. When I boot up the computer says 130,548 MB ram. So is the ram dead or what?

Any help is appreciated, TEB

Glenn Chan · January 16th, 2005, 05:14 PM

That seems normal. Because your old 500mhz computer has so little memory, you'd expect there to be only a little bit of RAM available for RAM preview.

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When I boot up the computer says 130,548 MB ram.

That's erroneous as 130,548MB is a lot of memory. You probably mean kB?

2- Why do you think your RAM is dead?

Bob Costa · January 16th, 2005, 06:45 PM

Thanks Edward. I was hoping there was something more cool, but that works for me.

Bob Costa · January 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM

If Vegas took all the available memory for its RAM Render space, it would not have any left to actually work in do calcs, store temporary data, etc, and all your other programs would crash too. Actually, they would just start paging memory like crazy until your processor overheated. But computer would grind to a halt.

Gary Kleiner · January 16th, 2005, 09:00 PM

The default setting is 16MB RAM, so that is normal. Sony suggests that this be set at about 70% of available RAM. The mystery for you is why it's only showing 16 MBs available.

Gary

Josh Bass · January 16th, 2005, 10:46 PM

Alright, well, whatever the issue was, rendering it with Vegas' own WMV thingy did the trick. I'm proud, it's pretty sharp, pretty decent looking, and I shaved about 4 megs off the old file size, somehow (I had it up on my site before, and wanted to make changes, hence this new fiasco). I did halve the framerate, but I don't think it looks to bad on a computer.

Thomas Edward Bufkin · January 17th, 2005, 09:53 AM

Glenn & Gary,

Yes, my bad about the KB. The old computer has 128 MG ram.

In Vegas 5, properties it says 16 MB in default and also says 16 MB available. I can not increase the amount over 16MB so it seems that is all that's available. The computer has 128 MB ram in it. Based on this I would hope to be able to select the 89-90 MB ram which is 70% of 128 just like Gary demonstrates in his Vegas 5 Companion DVD. So yes, Gary is correct in that my question is why does Vegas only show 16 MB available when in fact there is 128 inside? Once again, upon boot up the display even says 130,548.

Thanks for any help.

TEB

Edward Troxel · January 17th, 2005, 11:44 AM

Don't forget that within that 128 Meg you also have to allow for room for the OS, Vegas, any running services, etc...

16meg is the max with 128 meg. Add more memory, you can choose a bigger number.

David Ennis · January 17th, 2005, 02:15 PM

Windows Media Player
WinDVD and
Quicktime Player

all play back my downloaded and rendered DV (.avi files) with a lot of pixelation. The Vegas preview, even at its largest, does not. When rendered as Mpeg-2 they're fine.

I'd like to be able to view .avi full screen. Is there a codec I need to get?

Philippe Gosselin · January 17th, 2005, 03:13 PM

Well , there is a first for everything so here is my first answer to a post :)

John , if I were you I would include a text media like Ed instructed but you could also apply the cookie cutter FX (squar shape cutter). Now on you're text you can apply compositing , flashes , transitions etc... Just reading your post gave me cool idea's with what I just mentionned

See ya

Philippe Gosselin · January 17th, 2005, 03:18 PM

Hi all,

I just rendered my latest project without compression , my footage was pixelated a lot because i shot it in a nightclub without any real extra lighting.

I use the quickblur effect to reduce the pixelation but it's still very much there after rendering.

Any suggestions for reducing the pixelation

Thanks

Thomas Edward Bufkin · January 17th, 2005, 04:01 PM

Thanks Edward, now I will concentrate on finishing the new computer system.

TEB

January 16th, 2005, 01:32 PM	#197
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	4:42 is the 1Gig mark on an AVI file. For some reason WMP is only seeing the first gig of the file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 16th, 2005, 01:53 PM	#198
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Ok, I guess that's a starting place. . .I suppose I could create the WMV file in Vegas instead of through the WMP encoder. . .maybe that would allow me to bypass the problem. I still find it odd I didn't run into this before. Is there some 1 gig limit on WMP or something? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

January 16th, 2005, 03:41 PM	#199
Thomas Edward Bufkin New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 21	Poor Memory This was also posted on Non linear Editing on the PC but I thought I would try it here also. Hey guys, please tell me what this means. While building my new computer: P4-3.0; Asus Mobo/875 chipset; two Hitachi SATA 160's; Maxtor external 120 USB; one GIG Kingston Ram; Plextor DVD burner. I loaded Vegas 5.0 on my old 500mgz machine; 128 ram; 10 gig IDE HD to play with it. The problem I see when I go to Preferences/Video it says under Dynamic Ram Preview max 16 MB & only 16MB available. When I boot up the computer says 130,548 MB ram. So is the ram dead or what? Any help is appreciated, TEB

January 16th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#201
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Thanks Edward. I was hoping there was something more cool, but that works for me. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

January 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#202
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	If Vegas took all the available memory for its RAM Render space, it would not have any left to actually work in do calcs, store temporary data, etc, and all your other programs would crash too. Actually, they would just start paging memory like crazy until your processor overheated. But computer would grind to a halt. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

January 16th, 2005, 12:55 PM	#196
Tony Rockliff Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dunedin, Florida Posts: 70	There a few ways you can edit MPEG files without re-encoding but they all need external programs, a couple of which are free. Mpeg2Schnitt and Cuttermaran both enable you to do simple but frame-accurate cuts and then save without re-encoding and both are free. For more sophisticated MPEG editing without re-encoding there are VideoReDo, MPEG-VCR and TMPGEnc MPEG Editor, all at around $50. They only re-encode any changes (anything other than simple cuts). For the ultimate in MPEG editing there is MPEG Video Wizard which has multiple tracks, transitions, filters/effects, titles, works with AC3 and has MPEG repair tools etc. etc. It's a bit pricier at $120 but does a great job. It also only re-encodes the changes so saving is very fast. This is my first post too :) Hello to all. Tony

January 16th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#203
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	The default setting is 16MB RAM, so that is normal. Sony suggests that this be set at about 70% of available RAM. The mystery for you is why it's only showing 16 MBs available. Gary

January 16th, 2005, 10:46 PM	#204
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Alright, well, whatever the issue was, rendering it with Vegas' own WMV thingy did the trick. I'm proud, it's pretty sharp, pretty decent looking, and I shaved about 4 megs off the old file size, somehow (I had it up on my site before, and wanted to make changes, hence this new fiasco). I did halve the framerate, but I don't think it looks to bad on a computer. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

January 17th, 2005, 09:53 AM	#205
Thomas Edward Bufkin New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 21	Glenn & Gary, Yes, my bad about the KB. The old computer has 128 MG ram. In Vegas 5, properties it says 16 MB in default and also says 16 MB available. I can not increase the amount over 16MB so it seems that is all that's available. The computer has 128 MB ram in it. Based on this I would hope to be able to select the 89-90 MB ram which is 70% of 128 just like Gary demonstrates in his Vegas 5 Companion DVD. So yes, Gary is correct in that my question is why does Vegas only show 16 MB available when in fact there is 128 inside? Once again, upon boot up the display even says 130,548. Thanks for any help. TEB

January 17th, 2005, 11:44 AM	#206
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Don't forget that within that 128 Meg you also have to allow for room for the OS, Vegas, any running services, etc... 16meg is the max with 128 meg. Add more memory, you can choose a bigger number. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 17th, 2005, 02:15 PM	#207
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Pixlelated AVI playback Windows Media Player WinDVD and Quicktime Player all play back my downloaded and rendered DV (.avi files) with a lot of pixelation. The Vegas preview, even at its largest, does not. When rendered as Mpeg-2 they're fine. I'd like to be able to view .avi full screen. Is there a codec I need to get? __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

January 17th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#208
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Well , there is a first for everything so here is my first answer to a post :) John , if I were you I would include a text media like Ed instructed but you could also apply the cookie cutter FX (squar shape cutter). Now on you're text you can apply compositing , flashes , transitions etc... Just reading your post gave me cool idea's with what I just mentionned See ya

January 17th, 2005, 03:18 PM	#209
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Big pixel render , not the same question as Fred Hi all, I just rendered my latest project without compression , my footage was pixelated a lot because i shot it in a nightclub without any real extra lighting. I use the quickblur effect to reduce the pixelation but it's still very much there after rendering. Any suggestions for reducing the pixelation Thanks

January 17th, 2005, 04:01 PM	#210
Thomas Edward Bufkin New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 21	Thanks Edward, now I will concentrate on finishing the new computer system. TEB