Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Rob Easler · June 27th, 2003, 04:47 PM

With the pan/crop tool on an EVENT you can pan across the image or crop it but not shrink the entire image or move it around the screen. If you want to move a whole shrunken image around the screen use the pan/crop on the TRACK and keyframe your movements.

Glen Elliott · June 27th, 2003, 05:40 PM

I don't quite understand what your trying to explain. Though if Rob is in the right direction you might want to try the Track/motion tool- not pan/crop. Then again- I'm a complete Vegas newb!

Ed? Alex? ........anyone?!

Josh Bass · June 27th, 2003, 06:27 PM

Oh yeah. . .forgot about track motion thanks.

Robert Poulton · June 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM

you also might want to think about creating a mask with another layer so you can move the videos around independently of the mask.

Rob:D

Josh Bass · June 27th, 2003, 08:54 PM

Okay, now let's say I want to crop the video after resizing it, without it filling the screen, and without losing the aspect ratio. What I mean is, if I want to narrow the frame without "squishing" the contents within, how do I do this?

Rob Easler · June 27th, 2003, 08:56 PM

Oops, I should have called it track motion. Thats the correct term.

Rob Easler · June 27th, 2003, 09:05 PM

Ok, if you want to crop an event use the cookie cutter filter or the border filter.

Peter Jefferson · June 27th, 2003, 10:00 PM

u could even use the free 3d plugin and resize it that way...
i find this to offer a little more variety as you can tilt the video and not have the standardish kinda pic in pic

Edward Troxel · June 27th, 2003, 10:25 PM

Pan/Crop CAN work, you just have to make the "F" window very large. The clip can then be moved around on the screen. However the best/easiest way to do this is via Track Motion.

Josh Bass · June 27th, 2003, 11:17 PM

Nope, can't use the plugin pac, or this post wouldn't be here. The 3d plugin pac LE, I have learned from its author, Satish, operates on both fields of video at once. This means that it will make your 60i footage look progessive in any clip where it's used. I can't have that.

In addition, I just tried the border and cookie cutter plugins. They're not doing what I want either. I'd like to crop the sides of the video without affecting the top and bottom.

Tor Salomonsen · June 28th, 2003, 03:06 AM

<<Okay, now let's say I want to crop the video after resizing it, without it filling the screen, and without losing the aspect ratio. What I mean is, if I want to narrow the frame without "squishing" the contents within, how do I do this?>>

First you size your image in track motion, and position it where you want it on the screen. Do it by dragging with the mouse or writing the right values in Size and Center boxes. Make sure the Lock aspect ratio is on.

Then you open event pan/crop. Make sure the Lock aspect ratio button is off. Unclick the stretch to fill frame square. Pull the sides of the image in to crop it. And that's it.

Edward Troxel · June 28th, 2003, 05:43 AM

Try CROPPING the image with Pan/Crop and then resizing and positioning the image with Track Motion.

Rob Easler · June 28th, 2003, 10:00 AM

With the cookie cutter you CAN crop the sides without affecting the top. For example use the square and set repeat Y to 2 and then decrease the size bar and it will crop the sides.

Also Ed is of course right about being able to shrink the image and move it around with the Pan/Crop tool on an event. However since you also want to crop the sides and dont want to use the 3d plug I think you will want to use the cookie cutter as described in conjunction with track motion.

Hey look Ed we practically have a new Vegas forum right here...(tounge in cheek). Moo/SF/DMN and now DVinfo and of course the occasional VU action.

Mike Moncrief · July 1st, 2003, 01:22 PM

Hello,

does anyone know if vegas 4 takes advantage of Two processors in a system??

Mike

Edward Troxel · July 1st, 2003, 01:38 PM

Yes and No.

Yes, when rendering it DOES use two processors - one for video and one for audio. However, you won't see 100% usage on both processors.

However, you can run two instances of Vegas at the same time and still get good response time with two processors.

June 27th, 2003, 06:27 PM	#483
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Oh yeah. . .forgot about track motion thanks. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 27th, 2003, 08:54 PM	#485
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Okay, now let's say I want to crop the video after resizing it, without it filling the screen, and without losing the aspect ratio. What I mean is, if I want to narrow the frame without "squishing" the contents within, how do I do this? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 27th, 2003, 11:17 PM	#490
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Nope, can't use the plugin pac, or this post wouldn't be here. The 3d plugin pac LE, I have learned from its author, Satish, operates on both fields of video at once. This means that it will make your 60i footage look progessive in any clip where it's used. I can't have that. In addition, I just tried the border and cookie cutter plugins. They're not doing what I want either. I'd like to crop the sides of the video without affecting the top and bottom. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

July 1st, 2003, 01:22 PM	#494
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Vegas and Dual processors Hello, does anyone know if vegas 4 takes advantage of Two processors in a system?? Mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

June 27th, 2003, 04:47 PM	#481
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	With the pan/crop tool on an EVENT you can pan across the image or crop it but not shrink the entire image or move it around the screen. If you want to move a whole shrunken image around the screen use the pan/crop on the TRACK and keyframe your movements.

June 27th, 2003, 05:40 PM	#482
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	I don't quite understand what your trying to explain. Though if Rob is in the right direction you might want to try the Track/motion tool- not pan/crop. Then again- I'm a complete Vegas newb! Ed? Alex? ........anyone?!

June 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM	#484
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	you also might want to think about creating a mask with another layer so you can move the videos around independently of the mask. Rob:D

June 27th, 2003, 08:56 PM	#486
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Oops, I should have called it track motion. Thats the correct term.

June 27th, 2003, 09:05 PM	#487
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Ok, if you want to crop an event use the cookie cutter filter or the border filter.

June 27th, 2003, 10:00 PM	#488
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	u could even use the free 3d plugin and resize it that way... i find this to offer a little more variety as you can tilt the video and not have the standardish kinda pic in pic

June 27th, 2003, 10:25 PM	#489
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Pan/Crop CAN work, you just have to make the "F" window very large. The clip can then be moved around on the screen. However the best/easiest way to do this is via Track Motion.

June 28th, 2003, 03:06 AM	#491
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	<<Okay, now let's say I want to crop the video after resizing it, without it filling the screen, and without losing the aspect ratio. What I mean is, if I want to narrow the frame without "squishing" the contents within, how do I do this?>> First you size your image in track motion, and position it where you want it on the screen. Do it by dragging with the mouse or writing the right values in Size and Center boxes. Make sure the Lock aspect ratio is on. Then you open event pan/crop. Make sure the Lock aspect ratio button is off. Unclick the stretch to fill frame square. Pull the sides of the image in to crop it. And that's it.

June 28th, 2003, 05:43 AM	#492
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Try CROPPING the image with Pan/Crop and then resizing and positioning the image with Track Motion.

June 28th, 2003, 10:00 AM	#493
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	With the cookie cutter you CAN crop the sides without affecting the top. For example use the square and set repeat Y to 2 and then decrease the size bar and it will crop the sides. Also Ed is of course right about being able to shrink the image and move it around with the Pan/Crop tool on an event. However since you also want to crop the sides and dont want to use the 3d plug I think you will want to use the cookie cutter as described in conjunction with track motion. Hey look Ed we practically have a new Vegas forum right here...(tounge in cheek). Moo/SF/DMN and now DVinfo and of course the occasional VU action.

July 1st, 2003, 01:38 PM	#495
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes and No. Yes, when rendering it DOES use two processors - one for video and one for audio. However, you won't see 100% usage on both processors. However, you can run two instances of Vegas at the same time and still get good response time with two processors.