Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Robert Poulton · June 23rd, 2003, 03:12 PM

I have to say that that encoder rocks. I took my friends short and by the time I was done with the dvd the short was in its 5th generation. I was thinking OH Crap it will look horrible. But WOW was all I could say. I did however render out the whole film into stills. That did take sometime but I think it saved it in the long run. Also DVD creation couldn't be more fun and challenging with architect. Rock ON VEGAS+DVD!

gota love it.

Rob:D

Peter Koller · June 23rd, 2003, 03:41 PM

Yep, I agree. I am currently doing a project with lots of 13gb files, no troubles at all.

Joe Carney · June 23rd, 2003, 04:06 PM

Also uncheck use the MS Codec option. that way you only use the SoFo codec, which is what you want for best quality.

Robert Poulton · June 23rd, 2003, 04:15 PM

You know it is funny. I cannot for the life of me find the damn option to render out one single frame into a targa. Any help or workaround will be great.

Rob:D

Edward Troxel · June 23rd, 2003, 05:03 PM

That's because there isn't one. However, you CAN capture a single frame to PNG or JPG.

Look at the newsletters at http://www.jetdv.com/tts. One of the issues deals specifically with capturing snapshots from video frames. If you want to use the help file, search for "snapshot".

Andrew Petrie · June 23rd, 2003, 05:15 PM

Alex, I think by default it lists microsoft DV in the capture pull-down. Because even with 'ignore 3rd party codecs' checked and the MS codec unchecked, it's still there for me.

If someone can prove me wrong, please let me know asap.

Robert Poulton · June 23rd, 2003, 06:10 PM

thx for the info. To bad it's not as easy as Premiere. Also is there a way to export to image sequence?

Rob:D

Dennis Adams · June 23rd, 2003, 08:40 PM

Bruce:

Actually, the other way around. Use a widescreen project and use "match output aspect" instead of using the 16:9 pan/crop preset. Why? Because anamorphic widescreen DV and anamorphic widescreen DVD are the same 720x480 pixels, and very slightly wider than 16:9 (704x480 would be true 16:9). The 16:9 preset is exact 16:9, which is why you got the black bars.

///d@
Sonic Foundry, Inc.

Dan Measel · June 23rd, 2003, 08:43 PM

Thanks again everyone. This is a great help. Sorry to belabor the point but just so I am completely sure I understand about the prerendering. Even with a complex sequence of clips with track motion, multiple layers and transitions if I prerender to avi and then import that back into a new vegas project I can expect little to no loss in quality?

Dennis Adams · June 23rd, 2003, 08:49 PM

This has been confirmed as a bug reading >4G AVI format files created from Adobe products (and possibly elsewhere). It will be fixed in the forthcoming 4.0d update.
///d@
Sonic Foundry, Inc.

Dennis Adams · June 23rd, 2003, 08:55 PM

Alex:

1) DV capture doesn't use a codec, it's a data transfer. "Microsoft VCR or Camera" (or whatever) is the generic name for "DV device".

2) The default Vegas settings are to use the SF Vegas DV codec. As the others pointed out, make sure "Ignore 3rd party codecs" is ON and "Use Microsoft DV codec" is OFF. These are the defaults.

You should be good to go.

///d@

Dennis Adams · June 23rd, 2003, 09:03 PM

There is a script to export still image sequences, to JPG or PNG. This script is called RenderImageSequence.js and is available for download from here.
///d@

Robert Poulton · June 23rd, 2003, 09:36 PM

thx. Do you know why they don't deal with any other format other than .png or .jpg?
Rob:D

Edward Troxel · June 23rd, 2003, 10:17 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Dan Measel : Even with a complex sequence of clips with track motion, multiple layers and transitions if I prerender to avi and then import that back into a new vegas project I can expect little to no loss in quality? -->>>

Correct.

jonniesiri · June 24th, 2003, 08:52 AM

I'm trying to burn a complete project to VCD in Vegas 4, but after the first tried, the VCD has no audio. I've 4 video tracks and 5 audio tracks on the timeline, but why it didn't render the audio. I don't understand it. Does anyone have any suggestions?

June 23rd, 2003, 03:41 PM	#452
Peter Koller Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brunn am Gebirge, Austria Posts: 161	Yep, I agree. I am currently doing a project with lots of 13gb files, no troubles at all. __________________ Peter Koller Vienna, Austria http://www.kop11.com

June 23rd, 2003, 04:15 PM	#454
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	Still frame render in Vegas 4 You know it is funny. I cannot for the life of me find the damn option to render out one single frame into a targa. Any help or workaround will be great. Rob:D

June 23rd, 2003, 05:15 PM	#456
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	Alex, I think by default it lists microsoft DV in the capture pull-down. Because even with 'ignore 3rd party codecs' checked and the MS codec unchecked, it's still there for me. If someone can prove me wrong, please let me know asap. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

June 24th, 2003, 08:52 AM	#465
jonniesiri Posting suspended -- Contact Admin Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: TN Posts: 12	Vegas 4 VCD Burning questions! I'm trying to burn a complete project to VCD in Vegas 4, but after the first tried, the VCD has no audio. I've 4 video tracks and 5 audio tracks on the timeline, but why it didn't render the audio. I don't understand it. Does anyone have any suggestions?

June 23rd, 2003, 03:12 PM	#451
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	I have to say that that encoder rocks. I took my friends short and by the time I was done with the dvd the short was in its 5th generation. I was thinking OH Crap it will look horrible. But WOW was all I could say. I did however render out the whole film into stills. That did take sometime but I think it saved it in the long run. Also DVD creation couldn't be more fun and challenging with architect. Rock ON VEGAS+DVD! gota love it. Rob:D

June 23rd, 2003, 04:06 PM	#453
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Also uncheck use the MS Codec option. that way you only use the SoFo codec, which is what you want for best quality.

June 23rd, 2003, 05:03 PM	#455
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	That's because there isn't one. However, you CAN capture a single frame to PNG or JPG. Look at the newsletters at http://www.jetdv.com/tts. One of the issues deals specifically with capturing snapshots from video frames. If you want to use the help file, search for "snapshot".

June 23rd, 2003, 06:10 PM	#457
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	thx for the info. To bad it's not as easy as Premiere. Also is there a way to export to image sequence? Rob:D

June 23rd, 2003, 08:40 PM	#458
Dennis Adams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 123	Bruce: Actually, the other way around. Use a widescreen project and use "match output aspect" instead of using the 16:9 pan/crop preset. Why? Because anamorphic widescreen DV and anamorphic widescreen DVD are the same 720x480 pixels, and very slightly wider than 16:9 (704x480 would be true 16:9). The 16:9 preset is exact 16:9, which is why you got the black bars. ///d@ Sonic Foundry, Inc.

June 23rd, 2003, 08:43 PM	#459
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Thanks again everyone. This is a great help. Sorry to belabor the point but just so I am completely sure I understand about the prerendering. Even with a complex sequence of clips with track motion, multiple layers and transitions if I prerender to avi and then import that back into a new vegas project I can expect little to no loss in quality?

June 23rd, 2003, 08:49 PM	#460
Dennis Adams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 123	This has been confirmed as a bug reading >4G AVI format files created from Adobe products (and possibly elsewhere). It will be fixed in the forthcoming 4.0d update. ///d@ Sonic Foundry, Inc.

June 23rd, 2003, 08:55 PM	#461
Dennis Adams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 123	Alex: 1) DV capture doesn't use a codec, it's a data transfer. "Microsoft VCR or Camera" (or whatever) is the generic name for "DV device". 2) The default Vegas settings are to use the SF Vegas DV codec. As the others pointed out, make sure "Ignore 3rd party codecs" is ON and "Use Microsoft DV codec" is OFF. These are the defaults. You should be good to go. ///d@

June 23rd, 2003, 09:03 PM	#462
Dennis Adams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 123	There is a script to export still image sequences, to JPG or PNG. This script is called RenderImageSequence.js and is available for download from here. ///d@

June 23rd, 2003, 09:36 PM	#463
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	thx. Do you know why they don't deal with any other format other than .png or .jpg? Rob:D

June 23rd, 2003, 10:17 PM	#464
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Dan Measel : Even with a complex sequence of clips with track motion, multiple layers and transitions if I prerender to avi and then import that back into a new vegas project I can expect little to no loss in quality? -->>> Correct.