I used to edit with Premiere w/ hardware support and have sinced switched to Vegas 4. Vegas is faster- even though I don't have hardware support for real-time transitions. The workflow is so much smoother and more logical. There's no rendering when you simply drop a clip in a timeline that doesn't conform to the NTSC DV AVI standard- Vegas views all files as just data. Plus the realtime previews work great- so long as you have a pretty fast processor.

Premiere Pro is supposed to be completly re-written and from what I've heard is very stable. A much needed attribute after the highly unstable Premiere offerings in the past. Then again stability isn't the question- it's speed. Premiere Pro is supposed to have real-time previews as well- time will tell how well they work. Adobe really has to pull all the stops with this one- the Premiere NLE has been dragging behind recently.

Try Vegas 4.0, it's awesome, I wouldn't trade it for anything. You can do previews without any rendering, but of course the framerate depends on your computer, and how many "effects" you have on the video and all that...

AE6 was, indeed, released this month. Looks great and FEELS great.

Premiere Pro should be available later this month, but I can't even purchase one because it's already out of stock!

Also heard that PPro is supporting 24p/a internally without the need for plugins. Great!

http://www.adobevideo.com/forum

My AE6 just arrived this morning. Standard, not pro however. First thing I did was flick to the back of the manual where it shows loads of cool effects labelled 'pro only'. Not to worry. I'm really looking forward to playing with this. AE is one of my favourite programs. I'm an awful George Lucas in that respect (get the shooting overwith and only then does the real fun begin).

Jay.

do you folks see premiere+ae as one product in the future?

rob+ed

-Tyan Tiger MPX w/dual AMD MP1800+
-1GB RAM
-40gb 10krpm WD raptor SATA HD
-21" monitor
-aiw 8500DV
-sony hi8 =)
-wxp sp1 (fresh install)
-prem 6.5
-ae 5.5pro

by slow i mean when i capture it is totally unusable. gotta use ati multimedia center 8.5 to capture mpg2 or avi. then when i import into prem it slows to a crawl. i just can't see how people work like that with so many clips each taking up quite a long time. it just feels so hanidcapped. i mean it's not even usable that type a thing. i can't see how you folx deal w/it.

like i said when playing with final cut it's just nearly silky smooth. *sigh*

After Effects
 

I don't know anything about this product, but am curious as to what it brings to the table for an editor.

Say for wedding videos, what would be some of the specific features that AE provides that can boost the quality of my product?

Thanks,

Clarence

Huh dude? Something is seriously screwed up somewhere then. You system should have no problem doing anything in premiere, thats for sure.


My computer is only:

AMD Athlon 1GHZ
Some crappy no brand name motherboard
512MB PC133 SDRAM
40GB ATA100 5400rpm HDD
13.6GB ATA66 5400rpm HDD
ATI AIW 128 PRO 32MB
...etc etc, the usual

...and it has no trouble with working in premiere, atleast when I used premiere. It surely wasn't like your describing.

Either way something is screwed up. Do you have DMA mode enabled on your hard drive? If it's not enabled and is in PIO mode, or whatever, that can easally cause your computer to be extra super slow.

Look under control panel > system > hardware > device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers > Primary IDE Channel, and right click that and hit Properties > Advanced settings, and make sure they are set to "DMA if avalible".

The only thing I could see is some kind of problem with your disk drive, TSR programs (like anti-virus or viruses), or drivers (like firewire).

Even though you have a 40 gb drive, if it has not been defragged or is running loaded you might still have problems. Defragging in the middle of production is generally not recommended.

Drivers can cause other problems. You should check and make sure you have the latest ones.

TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident) programs can do all sorts of weird things. With Worm.Blaster out there is really good at hosing a system. If you do not have a anti-viral program it is probably worth while to scan your system.

Just an FYI when MS introduced W2K, the s/w normally starts the disk drive up in DMA mode.

<<<-- Originally posted by Ed Smith : And,

www.matrox.com/video

Go for the RTX 100 or above.

I've had no problems with my XL1 under Premiere 6 and 6.5

cheers,

Ed -->>>

Dear Ed,
What video card are you suing with your system? Are you satisfied with it?
I recently purchased an XL1, and am using Premiere 6.5 and Matrox RTX. I'm getting weird picture artifact on capture and playback, and think it may be a video card
problem. The card I'm presently using is actually unsupported by Matrox.


I welcome any input you may have.

Barb

Barb,

I currently use a Pinnacle DV500 capture card, although I will be soon buying the RTX 100, and Premiere Pro. The funny thing is that for my job I support editors who use Matrox hardware, but have not come across your problem.

Does the artifacts appear in the premiere preview window and/ or on a TV?

What happens if you create an AVI file and play though windows media player?

You should really have at least a G550 Matrox Graphics card, I believe that it uses a chip from it to run the hardware effectively.

Thanks,

Ed

What happens if you capture via the premiere capture window? Is still really slow.

I do not have this problem with mine.

Ed

exporting to tape in premiere
 

Hi people, ive put this on the mac side too as thats what im using but there dont seem to b many mac/premiere users.

Ive managed to export to tape when using imovie.
i now have a completed timeline on Premiere. ive hooked up the dv canon camera and chosen 'export to tape'. i used to have a problem selecting this as it wasnt highlighted but sorted that out via 'device control'. but now, when i export, i get the audio but no visual. just black. can anyone help or hazard a guess why?

Dear ED,
The artifact occurs in the capture window
and in any premiere playback window, but not on a tv monitor.

I'm currently using an older vid card, a matrox millennium 3d flex I believe.

Haven't tried to export an avi ( or encode to a wmv) and play it through wmp yet. I'll try that now.

Thanks!
Barb

Do you get a picture in your camera when previewing from the timeline?

Is everything rendered?

Have you chosen the correct device control?

Answer these first then we can carry on.

All the best,

Ed

this is weird. it was rendered, it was the right device control but didnt work. i tried all day but just audio came thru. ive changed nothing but now its working? strange.

Look at my signature.

"Good things come to those who wait"

Well it certainly works here!!!

Did you turn the camera on before loading Premiere or after Premiere had opened?

Maybe your cable was a bit loose.

Glad its sorted,

Ed

I left the camera on the whole time, went for food, came back and had one go, not even sure y as i didnt alter anything. i guess the camera just got bored waiting around.

After Effects is mainly an effects and compositing application. So
it has more features to remove mattes, animate things, color
correct etc. I don't see much reason why you would need something
like that for wedding videos. But check the feature list out
for yourself. I think there is also a demo version available for
an older AE version so perhaps you can check that out as well.

It is normal that a system is slow/unresponsive DURING capture,
so if that is happening don't worry. You also say that it is slow
when working with the footage. Is this AVI footage or mpeg2?
Mpeg is known to be slow in most applications [since it is an
intra-frame based compression algorithm].

If you use mpeg2, try using something else. Otherwise it might
be wise to check out the demo of Vegas. Although it probably
won't work with your ati multimedia center...

THANKS
 

Thanks Rob for the feedback. The effect I'm looking for is the "soft" edge PIP circle or rectangle. I've heard that these can be created in Photoshop, but since I don't have it, I'd like to know if there's a website that might have these as downloadable files?

I'm currently using Premiere 6.0 to edit.

Thanks again,

Clarence

<<<-- Originally posted by Yi Fong Yu : do you folks see premiere+ae as one product in the future? -->>>

In Premiere Pro, when you open the effects palette you now get a kind of reduced AE interface with a timeline and tracks on which you can set keyframes.

The difference being that you can't really composite AND set keyframes on the same timeline.

Which is why I doubt AE and Premiere will become one product. Premiere Pro adds some nice new effects control but remains truly an editor. You can now however import a Premiere project into AE and keep the effects keyframes. So, in a sense Premiere and AE already ARE an integrated product, which is why Adobe is making interesting offers with it's new Digital Video Collection (including Encore DVD). Adobe is probably hoping that AE will bring pros to use Premiere. The sales of one product help the sales of the other ! ;-)

Any paint package should allow you to createa a soft edge for
PiP use. Vegas can create it by itself if I'm not mistaken.

I use AE 5.5 Pro in about every Wedding I shoot. I use it for composting multiple windows of animated video for the montages. I also use for my B&W, Sepia, and other colorazation work. I use it to add my Cinemotion film effects to my video. I use it for all of my final project composting work too. I usually edit and render my production into seperate parts then I edit all of my audio on Wavelab. I take all of these things and blend them together within AE. This way it very easy to add global color corrections and Hue and saturation settings.

Maybe its because I am an anal rententive Video nerd, but I cant output any final project whether its a wedding or otherwise without first "tweaking it" with AE.

you guys may be forgetting that i'm using hi8. i've tried my friend's dv on mine and it works flawless... but i can't afford the xl1s yet (still saving). using prem to cap hi8 THROUGH the 8500DV (ati writes the worse drivers) is like hell on earth.

like i said i did a FRESH reinstall of wxp at least 3 times already with fresh installs of prem, ae, etc. and yesh dma is all enabled and all of the latest wxp win updates+ latest ati drivers catalyst 3.6, etc. (i'm a IT guy). on the 'base' computer front there are no problems.

both avi and mp1, mp2, quicktime, etc. all are slow with prem. when i'm done cleaning my room i'll have more time to get a screencap of what i'm talking about.

Can you capture in virtualdub and compress the footage into something like Microsoft DV AVI? That might make things go faster since DV works well in Premiere.

Or just get Vegas, that is a cool program (very different feel though).

i suppose i could. gonna have to give it a try after i fix me computer =).

Premiere 6 won't recognize my Panasonic AG-DVX100
 

I recently purchased a Panasonic AG-DVX100 camera and am trying to use it with Adobe Premiere 6.0, however my PC (a Compaq Evo W4000 with a Texas Instruments OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller Firewire card) is not recognizing my camera. In the past, I have used a Sony camcorder with this system and it worked fine. I have also connected a Panasonic AG-EZ30 and it does not recognize that either. I went to Microsoft's KnowledgeBase, downloaded and installed their patch, but that didn't work either.
Any suggestions?

Premiere Pro and 24 bit audio
 

Does Premiere Pro support 24bit audio? I already know that audition does, but I don't see where it says whether or not Premiere Pro does.

Since Premiere 6.0 was released way before the DVX it won't support the camera natively. Try using the "Generic DV Device" setting and see if that works.

Sounds like its trying to look for your old Sony.

As Adrian said try using generic DV device, or go to the device properties and select Panasonic from the drop down menu and then see whether your camera appears there, you can also use the check status button to find out whether the camera is on line.

To find the device properties box goto the edit menu in premiere then I think its settings (the one at the bottom) and then scratch disk and device control)

All the best,

Ed

Audio plug-ins for Premiere/AE?
 

Hi there,
I may have no choice but to do much of my audio work in Premiere or After Effects (as they are pretty much the only programs I have access to). Are there any essential plug-ins that may improve the quality and flexibility of my audio that I should try to track down? The cheaper the better but even if they are expensive, let me know anyway.

Thanks in advance,
Jay.

Adobe video collection is now shipping
 

Adobe video collection is now shipping.

Well first you have to pony up $799 :)

anyone know technically what version will prem pro be at? 7.0?

Yes, 7.0

No video when i try to capture
 

I just put in Windows XP Pro a few days ago, and when I opened up premier and tried to capture video, it said it was offline, So i guess my card is not turned on or something. Does anyone know what i should do?????? Thanks.

Does Premiere Pro have native support for HD?
 

Does Premiere Pro have native support for HD? And if so what do we need Aspect HD for?

Hi Mike,

I have had a lot of problems with capturing in Premiere. Try switching to another capture ulitity like DVIO (so-so) or ScenelyzerLive (really good but costs $40)

Cheers,
Mark

Premier Pro can handle HD, but I think you need a high end HD card for that, like any other HD NLE. The benefit of AspectHD, as far as I read, is that it not only handles the MPEG2-TS format well, but it also boast of an almost artifact free process of editing highly compressed HD material, all via firewire. And Aspect HD can convert the MPEG2-TS format to other formats as well.

http://www.cineform.com/products.html

Thanks!
 

Thank you for clearing that up for me..