converting to 25p in premiere (not just 25fps?)
 

Hi, I am after getting a Panasonic DVX100 as it does a 25p shooting mode (pal version). I think i have read somewhere it is possible to convert the footage I have shot on my canon xl1s to 25fps in premiere.. is this right.
Assuming it is I was wondering if this 25fps would still be interlaced and if there is anyway to make it progressive and would this give it exactly the same effect as would be achieved by shooting in 25p mode on the panasonic dvx100??

Premiere Pro 2 and XL1s
 

Hey everyone,

I am very close to purchasing Adobe Premiere Pro 2, and I just reallzed something. On the adobe website, it gives a list of DV cameras the software is compatible with. The canon XL2 is on the list, but the Canon Xl1s (or XL1) is not. When I found a link to a list of compatible cameras for Pro 1.5, Canon XL1s was on the list.

Does this mean that the Canon XL1s is NOT compatible with Premiere Pro 2? I already tried emailing Adobe, but have not recieved a response after four days. Thank you very much for your help,

~Clint Grant~

PPro 1.5 - date/time not recorded...
 

I may have made a major blunder. Recorded 8 tapes with a LOT of small clips on my XL1. But forgot to set date/time on camera... I had hoped PPro 1.5 could autodetect the clips individually, so I could edit it all together, but I get this error:

"Date/time not recorded and is required for scene detection."

On p54 in my manual for the XL1, I get the clear impression, that the code is recorded nevertheless (really doesnt matter if it says 12.34.13 or 00.00.00). Anyone have a workaround for this?

I have the XL1 and have no problems with PPro whatsoever... not the s-version though, but in my PPro 1.5 the XL1S is in the device-controls and I dont think they have removed it for PPro 2...

Captured HDV with Premiere, now what?
 

Hey All,

I have shot some stuff with an Xl-H1 in 24f mode, and i'm now capturing it in in premiere 2.0 with their new HDV presets for the canon xl-h1 which were released on June 26. I'm not using an intermediate codec like cineform, just adobe's default HDV capture.

The video files are showing up as mpegs, but no other program other than premiere can open them up, not even After Effects. What's with that?

Does premiere capture the file in a format that can only be read by Premiere? If so what do I do when I need to comp in some CG in After Effects? Do I export those clips that need the CG added as some other file?

If so, what type of file would be the best to use, .MOV? .Avi?, something else?

Thanks,

-Kevin

Without setting the date/time on the camcorder, it cannot embed the information into the DV data. It will record the timecode, though.

Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do other than go through the captured files and manually cut them at the right points.

Scene detection simply works by looking for discontinuities in the date/time.

It is possible to detect scenes based on the content of each frame but I don't know how good current programs are at that nor if your footage would work well that way. A few years ago, I developed a program to work with EditDV (R.I.P. - a great program) that detected scenes based on image content. Though I still have the original code (called Rough Cut) , it was based around Quicktime since that's what EditDV used.

Scenalyzer may be a solution for you, since it has image-change as one of its options for scene detection.

http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html

Quote: "It splits the scenes based on the recording-time embedded in the DV-streams, or based on optical content."

Thanks for letting me know, it's a bit reassuring.

~Clint Grant~

problem using the "screen key" in premiere pro 2.0
 

Hi, i have premiere pro 2.0 and when i apply the screen key for example:

layer 1: picnic scene
layer 2: smoke

when i apply the screen key to layer two, it works great, but when i do anything to the layer 2 or 1 the screen key will just stop working, and i have to undo what ever i changed. its really weird. in after effects i never have any problems, but i dont have ae available right now. so please help me thanks -Nick

PP1.5 and Canon’s XL2
 

What settings are you using to set-up new projects for widescreen format?
Are you using 720 x 480 or 960 x 480 as Canon says is the native format size or something else?

Then when you are all done and you export what settings are you using?
.9, widescreen 1.2, another?

I am having trouble getting my 16:9 widescreen video to look correct.
So I must be doing some thing wrong and need some guidance.

Thank you,
Bill

The way PPRO applies the screen key is kinda bad. In the effects window, make sure the screen key appears AFTER any other effects. But some effects just don't play nice with the screen key. Opacity changes and video transitions also cancel the effects of the screen key. You might want to use a nested composition to add effects to your top layer.

Picture in Picture video problem
 

I am trying to have a piece of video playing over another piece of video (picture inside of another picture). The full size video is fine; it the smaller picture with the problems. My problem is that I have black lines on both sides of the small picture. Anyone know what is going on and how to fix this problem?

I am using Priemere Pro (1.0) and have captured the video from a Canon XL1 camera (minDV tape).

Cheers!

Is the small video 4:3 and the project 16:9? If so you could right click on the small video timeline and change the aspect ratio by clicking on Interpret Footage.

You could also the crop video effect on the small video timeline to crop out the black space.

Barry

Hi Jon,

Its probably the blanking you are seeing.

Video cameras etc don't record all pixels In the video frame. This is normally not noticed when viewed on a Tv monitor - being it is outside the safe margin area. However when the video 'frame' is made smaller you will notice the blanking.

As mentioned by Barry, simply find the crop tool in the video effects bin and apply to the video.

Thanks,

Thanks for info and suggestions.

I tried the 'Crop' settings and it took care of the problem.
You guys are great!

Cheers, Jon

How do I do this with the Audio?
 

I have been working on a length project and it was near completion. However, just recently I moved to a new city and upon hooking up my editing system I realized one of my hard drives had died. Luckily this hard drive did not have any of my original media on it. However, it did have all of my rendered media. Once I fixed my system recovering the video wasn't really a problem, all I had to do was re-render it. However, I did the final audio mix in Audition, and those wave files produced by audition are gone. So now I have a projected with all the video there, but no audio.

Is there anyway I can have adobe just restore the orignal raw audio associated with the video clip? For example can I take Clip1 on the video track and have adobe automatically put the audio from clip one down on the audio track? The only other way I can see to fix it is to go through my timeline clip by clip, record the in and out timecodes on the video, open up the raw clip, set the same in and out, then drop just the audio down on the timeline. Doing this for every single edit in my project though could get very tedious.

Premiere Pro 2.0 and MPEG - Problems?
 

I have heard that there are problems with Premiere Pro 2.0 combined with Cineform Aspect HD and MPEG export/import – Can any confirm this?

I was told that you should have install Premiere Pro 1.5 at the same time to make it work.
Kind regards
Flemming Loevenhardt

The problem is a licencing issue, rather than a software bug.

http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/s...asp?deptID=614

Yup, and while I can't be 100% sure it is due to AspectHD, I have also found that in a system with PPro 2.0 but not 1.5, Adobe Media Encoder cannot export QT7 files either. Worse, even if you use the new Adobe presets and capture/edit in MPG without making use of Cineform technology, I still am unable to export to DVD, other standard MPEG, or QT (v7.1 free version installed). I haven't done RealPlayer exports, so can't speak to that.

Many months ago, Cineform posted that they expected to have the PPro 2.0 export issue resolved by the time AspectHD 4.0 came out. Obviously, that didn't happen...David T. and David N., any updated ETA on this problem?

sweetening, mastering sound
 

I will have someone sweeten and master my sound (Acid , Soundforge) for me on a short, which I edited on 1.5. I dont know much about cleaning and know nothing about mastering sound, so my question is. How can I save the audio so that they are seperate tracks that are synced? I exported 6min of footage (with 5 audio tracks) and burned them as a audio cd. When my friend brought it into soundforge it was as one track. I am trying to avoid having to give him the tracks individualy and then having to resync them in premiere after he is done. Is this possible, to give him the entire 43 min (with up to 5 audio tracks synced up), so I can just drop it back on the time line when it is done?

I'm affraid there is no simple way to do it, but there is a keyboard shortcut that might help you - when you have a video track selected and your timeline window is active, press T to open in the source monitor the clip which is under you cursor. It will open at the exact place that your cursor is positioned at, so it might help you establish the inpoint and outpoint.

Plus you can adjust the length of audio manually on the timeline using the edit tool, so you don't need to be very careful about the outpoints, just turn your snapping on (S key).

Hope this helps.

Best regards
Bart Walczak

Do you have the Audition project? What were the source files for Audition and are they still around? let Audition re-render the output just like Premiere did?
Ron Evans

Relinking audio from "Breakout to Mono Clips"
 

I have a project, and recently had to redo some of my hard drives. This resulted in the project being on a different drive letter. The project has some mono audio generated via "Breakout to Mono", so there aren't any actual files backing those up, except the original stereo. Everything else has relinked fine, but the mono-clips don't. Is there a way to get "Breakout to Mono" clips to relink? There are some cuts that will be quite a pain to recreate if I cannot relink...

Thanks,
Matt

Moving clips without the mouse?
 

I am trying to sync up audio and video clips in PP 1.5.
With the mouse it is hit and miss if I get it correct.
Is there a way to select a clip (Audio or Video) and bump it ahead or back one frame at a time?

Thank you,
Bill

Found it, I could not find it in the help file so I started playing with the keys.
Alt-Left or Right arrow bumps the clip one frame in either direction.

Bill

Try breaking out just one of the original stereo audio clips as a test and see if it automatically relinks. If not, then it's putting the mono clips in a different location on your drive. Try to manually link the clip on startup (or right clicking the unlinked mono file) when the callout appears, find whereever PrPro put the mono clips.

using premiere captured footage in AE from a XL2
 

I have tried to set the comp but I can't get it to be 16:9
I have tried all the diffrent aspect ratios there is to choose from for pal and widescreen (1.42, widescreen, squarepix)
and the thing is, not even the window looks 16:9, still looks 4:3,
in premiere, the footage looked 16:9 as i used a widescreen project.
when i try to set a manual comp, in order for it to be 16:9 i set it to 1024x576 and then my footage snaps in correctly...I dont even have that resolution...
what is wrong, why cannot i get a widescreen with SD resolution comp...

It is very frustrating and i have tried everyting that I've come across in old threads...any advice is welcome.

How about 4 Channel Capturing in Premiere Pro 2?
 

Can it be done thru firewire (one capture)?

I have Premiere pro but this is how I think you could do it,

Have your workbar over the entire 43 minutes then export audio for each of the five tracks seperately, you should be able to do this by muting out four of the tracks (click icon in timeline) and exporting one at a time as a wave file (file/export/wavefile?), hopefully premiere will just export the audio track which isn't muted.

As long as your friend doesn't change each wave files length you should be able to import them all back into premiere when he's finished.

sorry I don't know all the technical names for premiere.

Joel.

set up your comp as follows:

width x height: 720 x 480
pixel aspect ration: d1/dv ntsc widescreen (1.2)
frame rate: 23.976 (for 24p)

or simply drag your footage from the project bin to the "create a new composition" icon on the very bottom of the project bin. this will create a new composition with settings that match the footage.

in the preview window, make sure the "toggle pixel aspect ratio correction" is pressed.

allright...it was actually PAL, I was a little bit unclear about that, but when I toggled the switch it all worked out!

I extremly thankful!!

new newbie magic bullet questions
 

whenever I apply a video effect in premiere pro using a magic bullet plug in it reduces my screen size and i can only see the center 20% or so of the picture. I cant see how to adjust this in the normal effect settings place, does anyone have the answer?
also how do I go about converting to 24fps using magic bullet, ive heard its possible?
many thanks

Clip Notes
 

I was just messing around with the new clip notes feature in pp2, and found it pretty cool--However i could not seem to be able to import the text pdf file exported by the video embeded pdf file correctly into my timeline. I keep getting a message that said this clip note was not made for this timeline; continue or cancle (although i was on the exact same time line i exported the orginal clip note from). I would press continue in hoping that it would still work, but nothing happens. Any ideas? thanks.

Hi Wes!

I have tried to recreate you problem and the warning message only appear if i import the .xfdf to another Timeline than the one that created the Clip Notes or if i import the .xfdf into another Project that created the Clip Notes.

- Do you have more than one Timeline in your Project?
- Are you importing the .xfdf to the very same project that created the Clip Notes?

When you say nothing happens:
- Did you write any comment in the comment field in the Clip Note and exported them as a .xfdf-file?
- If you import a .xfdf that has comments added in it and click OK and then press Home on your keyboard and the press Ctrl+Right Arrow, do you find any Chapter Markers? When pressing Ctrl+Right Arrow the CTI should go to the next Chapter Marker on the Timeline.

If you find any Chapter Markers, press Shift+Asterisk key or double click on the Chapter Marker to see any comments. Press the Next-button to se the next Chapter Marker, etc.

All comments added into a Clip Notes that is exported as a .xfdf and then imported into PPro (Sequence > Imoprt Clip Notes Comments...) will show up as ordinary Chapter Markers in the Timeline.

/Roger

Unfortunately - NO. Best way, spend $29 and download Scenalyzer. Works great for all capturing and will capture 4 tracks of 32k audio for you. I recently did a project this way. Watch out though, Premiere Pro 2.0 still handles 32k audio poorly in that it will conform the audio which can take up lots of time and space. I tried using the 32k in a 48k project and PP couldn't convert the 32k to 48k without lots of artifacts. Sounded really bad. Worked okay the other way - 48k in a 32k project - but then it conforms all the 48k audio. Anyway, try Scenalyzer - great product!

Thanks for your help Roger Averdahl. I found out if your using an outdated acrobat version it does not work correctly. So i downloaded a new version and everthing went fine. thanks.

I also have this problem, although I'm using an fx1.

Hi Kevin and welcome to DVi.

I can't help too much, but have played around with one project in native 30F. Perhaps someone with specific technical knowledge can confirm this, but I am guessing that PPro's F-mode support is designed to read the proprietary Canon format and write it to disk with the mpeg file extension without transcoding, rather than doing a transcode to a standard mpeg format. No tape decks can handle so it doesn't surprise me that other software doesn't.

Adobe does specifically say that mpeg in general is not suitable for AE because of the overhead of GOP decoding. I tried doing dynamic link with the 30F PPro sequence and it did import to AE as a comp, but pretty much stalled out, just as Adobe said.

So unless someone has some better ideas, I believe that as long as you have a fast computer and you're staying within PPro until render to the final delivery format, native F mode will be fine. If you need to use the source files outside of PPro, including AE, then transcoding to another format seems to be necessary. An intermediate codec is one option, or right at the beginning you could render a new source file in Mov or AVI, whichever you are more comfortable working with.

It is all a bit of a bother, to be sure. To me it kind of feels like the early days of miniDV, where everything was glitchy and on the edge of our computers' capabilities. Now miniDV is a walk in the park, but even more so than when I moved up from Hi8 to miniDV, despite the hassles, there's no going back! Probably another year or two of pain for early adopters, and then HDV will be easy. Of course, then we'll all probably be trying to edit 4K...

I have both Vegas and Premiere Pro 2.0 and the FX1. I just test captured FX1 footage with PPro 2.0 native capture, and then brought that into Vegas. No problem.

A couple of weeks back I posted that I was having a problem viewing some of my native hdv with MS Media Player. It was showing a strong green cast. Had that continue a couple of weeks, then, it was gone. I think that the constant upgrading in the XP system might have created a problem with the codec, that was later corrected by Microsoft in a subsequent date.

Are you updating your systems regularly ?

Dolby V-plug and Premiere
 

Does any one have any experience using the Dobly v-plug AC-3 Encoder with Premiere 6.5? If so, is it working well for you and do you have any tips its use.

Thanks,