Wide Angle Adapter

Robin Davies-Rollinson · September 24th, 2004, 03:30 AM

"I had canon xm2 with canon 0,7x wide lens and didn't notice EVER lose of sharpness and resolutino on any disortion using wide lens attached"

Jakub,
I use the same setup and agree with you 100%.
In fact, the Canon wide adapter stays on the camera full-time (unless I should really need the tight end of the standard lens.)

Robin

Nick Hope · September 24th, 2004, 10:52 AM

<<<-- Saying that: "You've got wide conversion lens to do wide shots" is really stupid - imagine taking it off every single time when you want do do some details close ups to achieve good quality picture. :) -->>>

Well that's what I have to do. It's inconvenient but do-able.

Steve McDonald · September 26th, 2004, 05:33 AM

My Telesor .5X wideangle lens, with a 58mm thread, gives sharp, undistorted images on any camcorder I have. There's no vignetting at any zoom setting. Although I bought it 17 years ago for
$160., it's as though it was made to order for my VX2100. I'd recommend it as
an excellent performer and great buy for the VX and PD-series cameras. If you have good luck and find someplace you can buy them nowadays, let me know, as I'd like to pick up another as a spare.

Steve McDonald

Tom Hardwick · September 26th, 2004, 07:42 AM

You claim to have a 0.5x zoom through wide-angle converter that doesn't suffer from distortion Steve? Sorry, but I simply don't believe you - much as I'd like to.

If you set up your camera + converter perpendicular to the side of a building, are you claiming that there's no distortion of any of the straight lines (windows, doors, brickwork)?

tom.

Leslie Wand · October 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM

anyone know of any - mainly uv to protect lens....

leslie

Mike Rehmus · October 31st, 2004, 07:34 PM

There is always a way although I don't use one on the WA I use for my 150 since there is no filter thread on the beast.

An email to B&H Photovideo should get you an answer.

Leslie Wand · November 1st, 2004, 04:06 AM

thanks mike,

neither does the sony supplied w/a with the 170 have any thread. my main concern is obviously protection rather than filtering.

was even thinking about a piece of optical perspex on the lends hood?

all the best,

leslie

Tom Hardwick · November 1st, 2004, 08:15 AM

I know you mean well Leslie, but unless you're going to (rough) sea in a sailing boat or photographing children's boisterous parties I'd not bother with a UV over the w/angle converter. And this from a man who advocates that you wear one at all times in front of your standard zoom lens, simply as mechanical insurance protection.

The Sony w/angle will be a three element converter and this adds to the flare on your film of course. Making it intop a 4 elemet only adds to the problem. On top of that the increased DOF means that added filters have to be kept spotlessly clean - a near impossibility - or the marks show up on film.

I use a good rubber hood from Cavision, and at least this keeps some of the rain and sticky fingers away.

tom.

Mike Rehmus · November 1st, 2004, 10:24 AM

I too use a rubber hood. The lens hood from my RB-67 6 by7 cm film camera fits perfectly.

Bob Harotunian · November 14th, 2004, 10:49 AM

Can anyone recommend the Century Precision Optics 0.65x converter lens for the PD-170 versus the Canon WD-58?
Is the bayonnet version preferable to the screw on?
Thanks for any advice.
Bob

Mike Rehmus · November 14th, 2004, 03:22 PM

Bob, there has been a ton of information on those WA adapters. Do a search on the term 'wide angle adapter,' and you will get 19 threads on the subject.

Bayonet mount is much stronger than filter-thread mount.

Jack Wheeler · February 6th, 2005, 05:30 AM

I've read and read, but I don't know if I need the Sony LSFS58 hood with the Sony VCLHG0758 wide angle lens.

It sounds like the hood is a replacement...

Do I need it?

Lou Bruno · February 9th, 2005, 04:28 PM

Yes......to prevent flaring.

Patrick Moreau · February 14th, 2005, 10:40 PM

I'm not sure, I'm checking out that one and it sures looks like a replacement. I'm wondering if Lou just answered without actually checking that model out, it would be good to know as i could use on myself..

Tom Hardwick · February 15th, 2005, 06:04 AM

Not sure what hood the Sony LSFS58 hood is, but in purely photographic terms YES - you do need a lens hood, and doubly so when you're using a wide-angle. Your focal length has been reduced to 4.5 mm and if you focus close and use f8 or so, the depth of field can come inside the front element of the converter. Any dust or dirt - however slight - will come into sharp focus and become horribly apparent if direct (sun)light hits the front element.

Hooding the glass and shadowing it from the sun can dramatically improve your shots. It's very easy to prove - all you need is a sunny day, a TV as a monitor and a hood. Take it on and off and see what I mean.

The lens hood is the cheapest, lightest (here he goes again) best accessory you can buy for the money. Don't leave home without one. Remember too that the hood that came with your VX/PD is only efficient at the max wide-angle end of the zoom - for all other focal lengths it 'sort-of-helps', no more.

tom.

October 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM	#290
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	filters for 170 wide angle lens... anyone know of any - mainly uv to protect lens.... leslie __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

October 31st, 2004, 07:34 PM	#291
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	There is always a way although I don't use one on the WA I use for my 150 since there is no filter thread on the beast. An email to B&H Photovideo should get you an answer. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

November 1st, 2004, 10:24 AM	#294
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	I too use a rubber hood. The lens hood from my RB-67 6 by7 cm film camera fits perfectly. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

November 14th, 2004, 10:49 AM	#295
Bob Harotunian Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 360	Wide Angle? Can anyone recommend the Century Precision Optics 0.65x converter lens for the PD-170 versus the Canon WD-58? Is the bayonnet version preferable to the screw on? Thanks for any advice. Bob

November 14th, 2004, 03:22 PM	#296
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Bob, there has been a ton of information on those WA adapters. Do a search on the term 'wide angle adapter,' and you will get 19 threads on the subject. Bayonet mount is much stronger than filter-thread mount. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

September 24th, 2004, 03:30 AM	#286
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	"I had canon xm2 with canon 0,7x wide lens and didn't notice EVER lose of sharpness and resolutino on any disortion using wide lens attached" Jakub, I use the same setup and agree with you 100%. In fact, the Canon wide adapter stays on the camera full-time (unless I should really need the tight end of the standard lens.) Robin

September 24th, 2004, 10:52 AM	#287
Nick Hope Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 189	<<<-- Saying that: "You've got wide conversion lens to do wide shots" is really stupid - imagine taking it off every single time when you want do do some details close ups to achieve good quality picture. :) -->>> Well that's what I have to do. It's inconvenient but do-able.

September 26th, 2004, 05:33 AM	#288
Steve McDonald Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 366	My Telesor .5X wideangle lens, with a 58mm thread, gives sharp, undistorted images on any camcorder I have. There's no vignetting at any zoom setting. Although I bought it 17 years ago for $160., it's as though it was made to order for my VX2100. I'd recommend it as an excellent performer and great buy for the VX and PD-series cameras. If you have good luck and find someplace you can buy them nowadays, let me know, as I'd like to pick up another as a spare. Steve McDonald

September 26th, 2004, 07:42 AM	#289
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	You claim to have a 0.5x zoom through wide-angle converter that doesn't suffer from distortion Steve? Sorry, but I simply don't believe you - much as I'd like to. If you set up your camera + converter perpendicular to the side of a building, are you claiming that there's no distortion of any of the straight lines (windows, doors, brickwork)? tom.

November 1st, 2004, 04:06 AM	#292
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	thanks mike, neither does the sony supplied w/a with the 170 have any thread. my main concern is obviously protection rather than filtering. was even thinking about a piece of optical perspex on the lends hood? all the best, leslie

November 1st, 2004, 08:15 AM	#293
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	I know you mean well Leslie, but unless you're going to (rough) sea in a sailing boat or photographing children's boisterous parties I'd not bother with a UV over the w/angle converter. And this from a man who advocates that you wear one at all times in front of your standard zoom lens, simply as mechanical insurance protection. The Sony w/angle will be a three element converter and this adds to the flare on your film of course. Making it intop a 4 elemet only adds to the problem. On top of that the increased DOF means that added filters have to be kept spotlessly clean - a near impossibility - or the marks show up on film. I use a good rubber hood from Cavision, and at least this keeps some of the rain and sticky fingers away. tom.

February 6th, 2005, 05:30 AM	#297
Jack Wheeler New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Simple Question: do I need the Sony sunshade with the VCL58 wide angle? I've read and read, but I don't know if I need the Sony LSFS58 hood with the Sony VCLHG0758 wide angle lens. It sounds like the hood is a replacement... Do I need it?

February 9th, 2005, 04:28 PM	#298
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	Yes......to prevent flaring. __________________ Lou Bruno

February 14th, 2005, 10:40 PM	#299
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	I'm not sure, I'm checking out that one and it sures looks like a replacement. I'm wondering if Lou just answered without actually checking that model out, it would be good to know as i could use on myself..

February 15th, 2005, 06:04 AM	#300
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Not sure what hood the Sony LSFS58 hood is, but in purely photographic terms YES - you do need a lens hood, and doubly so when you're using a wide-angle. Your focal length has been reduced to 4.5 mm and if you focus close and use f8 or so, the depth of field can come inside the front element of the converter. Any dust or dirt - however slight - will come into sharp focus and become horribly apparent if direct (sun)light hits the front element. Hooding the glass and shadowing it from the sun can dramatically improve your shots. It's very easy to prove - all you need is a sunny day, a TV as a monitor and a hood. Take it on and off and see what I mean. The lens hood is the cheapest, lightest (here he goes again) best accessory you can buy for the money. Don't leave home without one. Remember too that the hood that came with your VX/PD is only efficient at the max wide-angle end of the zoom - for all other focal lengths it 'sort-of-helps', no more. tom.