Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Steven Gotz · April 26th, 2004, 06:52 PM

When you exported them, the names were in numerical sequence. Import them into Premiere by selecting the first one and checking the box that says they are a numerical sequence.

Sam Forbes · April 26th, 2004, 10:16 PM

Ok, I have been working with Pinnacle 8 for several months. It was my first editing experience and I love the program. You don't need to touch the book and it can do any basic functions that I need. However, I am making an extreme sports video and need good slow motion. I got Premier Pro and wow!! I am scratching my head and can't do the first thing. I may enroll in class or something but for the mean time, I am dead in the water. My immediate solution is to do all the basic edits and piece together my video in Pinnacle and then transport the whole file into Premier for the slow motion. How do I do that? How do I get the edited video footage from my files in Pinnacle over to premier to add the slow motion? Do I need to record it back out to a minidv tape and then re-capture it? As is obvious by now, I am very new at this. Any advice would be helpful.
Thanks
Sam

John Garcia · April 26th, 2004, 10:22 PM

i used p pro for the first time last night also, and its actually pretty simple. i figured that you could do a "slow motion" on the clip by right clicking/speed duration. you can adjust either speed or duration of the clip. i dont think you can access speed/duration settings if your clip is linked with an audio track. to unlink the audio from the video track, right click/unlink audio from video. you will now be able to access speed/duration settings...

there may be another way to do it, but this is the only way that i know how.

ive heard the slow motion in p pro sucks though, and youre much better off doing slow motion in after effects..

i could be wrong, feel free to correct me...

=)

good luck! :D

John Garcia · April 26th, 2004, 10:24 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Roovers : I am always afraid to use ripple delete because i don't know what it does exatcly anf i am afraid for surpises.

Who can give me more trust in the process? Whar does it doe and what safeguards it? -->>>

haha...thats what im thinking...what the heck is ripple delete!? :D haha...

Anthony Meluso · April 27th, 2004, 01:36 AM

Just like anything in the video editting work there is about a dozen ways to do this. Try this turtorial to start out with. It worked nicely when I used it once.

http://www.marcpeters.co.uk/dallas-titles.html

Mike Morrell · April 27th, 2004, 08:10 AM

I am about to shoot some green screen for a project in a couple of days. It is not a must to use the green screen and I am debating whether or not to do it based on some tests that I have shot.

I am using the Matrox RTX100 to do the chroma keying. The NTSC looks very good on the monitor for my test footage. However, when I encode to WM9 I get lots of artifacts around the subject area. Is it typical that ultra-compressed formats such as WM9 will look bad around the edges on chroma keyed clips?

My end product will be delivered on CD and will be a compressed format, probably WM9 or Quick-time and NOT DVD.

Would chroma keying in AfterEffects yield better results?

Rob Lohman · April 27th, 2004, 08:59 AM

I would begin with an un-install and then re-install of Premiere.

Jonathan Stanley · April 27th, 2004, 09:04 AM

You have much more control over your key in AE, so if you know what you are doing then you could def. get better results. However, I dont know about the quality when you compress it.

Jonathan Stanley · April 27th, 2004, 09:10 AM

I have done a lot of Slo-Mo with PPro and the results have been acceptable. I like turning on the frame blend speed option (right click, go to field options).
As for your question about doing the edit in Pinnacle, all you have to do is save the final product in pinnacle to a format that PPro accepts. I recommend .AVI . Then open pro, select file/import or double click in the project window and select your file. Then drop it onto the time line, right click and go to speed duration, and presto! speed changes in PPro.
I would recommend trying to do the edit in Pro however. You have to learn sometime! Get the manual, and start playing. You will figure it out before too long. Good luck!

Mike Morrell · April 27th, 2004, 09:21 AM

I just tried using AE for the same footage and could not obtain any acceptable results. My lighting of the green screen was not even and with AE I was only able to get have the background keyed out without keying out the subject. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but there are only controls available in AE where there are a lot more with Matrox and you can select a range of colors for your keying too. I could not figure out how to do this in AE.

Roger Golub · April 27th, 2004, 09:23 AM

Well, I knew it was easy. Thanks.

Ed Smith · April 27th, 2004, 09:23 AM

Do you have the standard or professional edition of AE? If you have the pro version then there should be far more controls. But as fo rthe standard version you get about the same chroma key controls as you do with premiere (not very many). Using the Matrox plug in will give you more.

Ed Smith · April 27th, 2004, 09:26 AM

It can be tricky uninstalling plug in files, unless there was an uninstall application when you installed the plugin. Plug-ins are normally kept with in the plugin folder of Premiere. But rather than fidderling around in there I would to a re-install, like Rob suggested.

Nick Jushchyshyn · April 27th, 2004, 09:47 AM

For greenscreen shots, you have to avoid compressing your source video.

Capture the video directly to the native format of your capture device. Any additional compression will add at least some artifacts to your video that increase the difficulty in getting good composits. WM9 may be fine for a final release, but it's terrible for keying work.

Good luck.
Have fun.

Mike Morrell · April 27th, 2004, 10:06 AM

Thanks for the replies.

I do have AE professional version 6. The chroma key effect has the following controls available:

key color
color tolerance
edge thin
edge feather

-----------------------------------

I am editing in DV, so far using Matrox DV codec. Like I said, the DV edit with the chroma key applied looks good on my test. But when I take this clip and write to windows media, that is when I am noticing objectionable artifacts. I even tried WM9 "uncompressed" and it did not look much better. My green screen test footage was not lit quite as well as my production will be.

April 26th, 2004, 10:16 PM	#392
Sam Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 79	Help! Premier Pro newbie Ok, I have been working with Pinnacle 8 for several months. It was my first editing experience and I love the program. You don't need to touch the book and it can do any basic functions that I need. However, I am making an extreme sports video and need good slow motion. I got Premier Pro and wow!! I am scratching my head and can't do the first thing. I may enroll in class or something but for the mean time, I am dead in the water. My immediate solution is to do all the basic edits and piece together my video in Pinnacle and then transport the whole file into Premier for the slow motion. How do I do that? How do I get the edited video footage from my files in Pinnacle over to premier to add the slow motion? Do I need to record it back out to a minidv tape and then re-capture it? As is obvious by now, I am very new at this. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks Sam

April 26th, 2004, 10:22 PM	#393
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	i used p pro for the first time last night also, and its actually pretty simple. i figured that you could do a "slow motion" on the clip by right clicking/speed duration. you can adjust either speed or duration of the clip. i dont think you can access speed/duration settings if your clip is linked with an audio track. to unlink the audio from the video track, right click/unlink audio from video. you will now be able to access speed/duration settings... there may be another way to do it, but this is the only way that i know how. ive heard the slow motion in p pro sucks though, and youre much better off doing slow motion in after effects.. i could be wrong, feel free to correct me... =) good luck! :D __________________ John Garcia

April 26th, 2004, 10:24 PM	#394
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Roovers : I am always afraid to use ripple delete because i don't know what it does exatcly anf i am afraid for surpises. Who can give me more trust in the process? Whar does it doe and what safeguards it? -->>> haha...thats what im thinking...what the heck is ripple delete!? :D haha... __________________ John Garcia

April 27th, 2004, 08:10 AM	#396
Mike Morrell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Norcross GA Posts: 119	Green Screen DV to Windows Media I am about to shoot some green screen for a project in a couple of days. It is not a must to use the green screen and I am debating whether or not to do it based on some tests that I have shot. I am using the Matrox RTX100 to do the chroma keying. The NTSC looks very good on the monitor for my test footage. However, when I encode to WM9 I get lots of artifacts around the subject area. Is it typical that ultra-compressed formats such as WM9 will look bad around the edges on chroma keyed clips? My end product will be delivered on CD and will be a compressed format, probably WM9 or Quick-time and NOT DVD. Would chroma keying in AfterEffects yield better results?

April 27th, 2004, 08:59 AM	#397
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I would begin with an un-install and then re-install of Premiere. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 26th, 2004, 06:52 PM	#391
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	When you exported them, the names were in numerical sequence. Import them into Premiere by selecting the first one and checking the box that says they are a numerical sequence.

April 27th, 2004, 01:36 AM	#395
Anthony Meluso Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 53	Just like anything in the video editting work there is about a dozen ways to do this. Try this turtorial to start out with. It worked nicely when I used it once. http://www.marcpeters.co.uk/dallas-titles.html

April 27th, 2004, 09:04 AM	#398
Jonathan Stanley Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boone, NC Posts: 115	You have much more control over your key in AE, so if you know what you are doing then you could def. get better results. However, I dont know about the quality when you compress it.

April 27th, 2004, 09:10 AM	#399
Jonathan Stanley Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boone, NC Posts: 115	I have done a lot of Slo-Mo with PPro and the results have been acceptable. I like turning on the frame blend speed option (right click, go to field options). As for your question about doing the edit in Pinnacle, all you have to do is save the final product in pinnacle to a format that PPro accepts. I recommend .AVI . Then open pro, select file/import or double click in the project window and select your file. Then drop it onto the time line, right click and go to speed duration, and presto! speed changes in PPro. I would recommend trying to do the edit in Pro however. You have to learn sometime! Get the manual, and start playing. You will figure it out before too long. Good luck!

April 27th, 2004, 09:21 AM	#400
Mike Morrell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Norcross GA Posts: 119	I just tried using AE for the same footage and could not obtain any acceptable results. My lighting of the green screen was not even and with AE I was only able to get have the background keyed out without keying out the subject. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but there are only controls available in AE where there are a lot more with Matrox and you can select a range of colors for your keying too. I could not figure out how to do this in AE.

April 27th, 2004, 09:23 AM	#401
Roger Golub Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sitka, AK Posts: 46	Well, I knew it was easy. Thanks.

April 27th, 2004, 09:23 AM	#402
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Do you have the standard or professional edition of AE? If you have the pro version then there should be far more controls. But as fo rthe standard version you get about the same chroma key controls as you do with premiere (not very many). Using the Matrox plug in will give you more. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

April 27th, 2004, 09:26 AM	#403
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	It can be tricky uninstalling plug in files, unless there was an uninstall application when you installed the plugin. Plug-ins are normally kept with in the plugin folder of Premiere. But rather than fidderling around in there I would to a re-install, like Rob suggested. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

April 27th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#404
Nick Jushchyshyn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 548	For greenscreen shots, you have to avoid compressing your source video. Capture the video directly to the native format of your capture device. Any additional compression will add at least some artifacts to your video that increase the difficulty in getting good composits. WM9 may be fine for a final release, but it's terrible for keying work. Good luck. Have fun.

April 27th, 2004, 10:06 AM	#405
Mike Morrell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Norcross GA Posts: 119	Thanks for the replies. I do have AE professional version 6. The chroma key effect has the following controls available: key color color tolerance edge thin edge feather ----------------------------------- I am editing in DV, so far using Matrox DV codec. Like I said, the DV edit with the chroma key applied looks good on my test. But when I take this clip and write to windows media, that is when I am noticing objectionable artifacts. I even tried WM9 "uncompressed" and it did not look much better. My green screen test footage was not lit quite as well as my production will be.