Vince Debart
April 16th, 2004, 11:42 AM
thanks Edward
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Vince Debart April 16th, 2004, 11:42 AM thanks Edward Vince Rob Lohman April 18th, 2004, 05:27 AM Never heard of "Paradise". But funny non-the-less. If you want to keep everything 16:9 then you should keep everything 16:9 in Vegas as well. Only if you want to output to the web (for example) and need to letterbox your footage you can start a 4:3 project and it should either auto letterbox or you should go into the media's properties and choose something like maintaint aspect ratio or fit to (project) size. I forgot which way it was... If your footage was shot in interlaced then you probably should not select progressive in the project properties. If you don't do that, and cut a little bit together and export that back to a DV file. How does that look in Media Player? Jay Mitchell April 18th, 2004, 11:29 AM Here is the Info on Viewing the Vegas 5 +DVDA2 Training Seminars and Presentations From NAB. The Southern California Vegas Users Group - will be Videotaping, Editing and Streaming Out the Activities and Vegas 5 and DVDA2 Training Seminars from NAB on Tuesday April 20th. The Stream can be seen on SCVUG Moderator - Liam Kennedy's Website. The Url is: http://www.ImageBEAM.com/NABStream Click This Link to View the Vegas 5 Stream From NAB You can Check the Image BEAM website or the SoCAL Vegas Users Group Mesaage Boards for Vital Stream Time Updates. The SoCal Vegas Users Group will be seeking a discount rate for Vegas 5 Upgrades for our members from participating re-sellers. Other Vital Info about Vegas 5 will be posted to our Message Boards from NAB. Feel Free to stop by the SCVUG Yahoo Site and participate in on the Activities Surrounding the release of Vegas 5 ! Click this Link to the SoCal Vegas Users Group Jay Mitchell Edward Troxel April 18th, 2004, 01:43 PM Thanks for the link, Jay. I made the clickable for you. Philippe Gosselin April 18th, 2004, 06:08 PM Hi Rob, Thx a lot for your feedback. I do want to format it into 4:3 , i just don't go for the "stretchy" look :) In Media player the captures looks great. So i will i proceed to transfer it to 4:3 when my editing will be done. Thx again Tom Cooper April 19th, 2004, 03:48 AM Just downloaded the trial version, and my first test was rendering speed. I've got a dual-Xeon machine. In old Vegas 4, rendering gets to about 30% processor utilization max. Rendering to Mainconcept MPEG with no filters, Vegas 5 gets 70% processor utilization, spread evenly across the kernels. Yee-haw! Add Brightness and Contrast filter, still 70% Add Color Curves with slight "S" shape, utilization drops to 60%. Still awesome! The new "Chroma Blur" filter isn't quite as good. The higher the blur settings, the lower the processor usage. But at least they added this filter. :) Gaussian Blur apparently isn't threaded at all. The tiniest amount of blur in only one direction drops processor usage back down to Vegas 4 levels. But the new Chroma Blur filter might replace Gaussian Blur for my uses anyway. I plan to play more after a decent night's sleep. So far, I'm quite pleased. Vegas 5 also still supports Vegas 4 plugins. In particular, DebugMode's PluginPac Adapter works, so we can still use VirtualDub plugins. This also makes me happy. :) Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 05:10 AM Yes, rendering speeds have definitely improved in Vegas 5. Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 08:30 AM 7 Velocity envelopes. Another feature that can get tricky. Let me get this straight- it's IMPOSSIBLE to "reverse" a clip that is cut. A NEW feature in Vegas 5 - Right-click any event, choose Reverse - and you're done. So, now you can cut as normal and simply reverse the clip (wish I could have told you that last week!) Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 08:42 AM LoL...I knew you'd come around. Little easier to breathe now that that gag is out of your mouth- huh? ;) So who's going to jump on a V5 training DVD first? Have you or Gary considered this? Coming Soon: My Vegas 5 questions post! :) Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 08:45 AM Now that Vegas 5 is out and touts some incredible new features....I wonder how the mass is going to compare it to Premiere Pro now?! Heck, how about FCP vs V5...NOW! :) Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 08:49 AM Definitly going for the upgrade ASAP, just not sure if I want the downloaded version or the boxed version. Well...I actually WANT the boxed version but don't know if I have the patience. Anyway how will the upgrade (Vegas+DVD) install? Will it find my old version of V4 and DVDA1.0 and, well...UPGRADE them. Or will they be a completly new install. I ask because when I installed Sound Forge 7 it installed as a completly new program- I then had Version 6 AND 7 on my system. Thanks in advance. Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 09:29 AM I believe Spot will probably have the first one. Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM Your best bet is to download the 5.0a version of Vegas and the 2.0 version of DVD Architect (whether or not you buy the boxed version). The box version will contain 5.0 instead of 5.0a. In fact, I would recommend not buying the boxed version as you can get everything from downloading anyway. The only exception is a printed keyboard shortcut card and a "getting started" manual. When you install, simply enter your serial number and then do the secondary registration - same as you did with Vegas 4. Vegas 5 does not care if Vegas 4 is on your system or not. In fact, you can have BOTH on your system and both will continue to function normally. (in fact, I have Vegas 4, Vegas 4, DVDA 1, and DVDA 2 all installed and functional right now on the same computer). Joe Carney April 19th, 2004, 09:52 AM Charlie White has a review posted over at digitalproducer.com, front page Joe Carney April 19th, 2004, 09:59 AM In Charlie Whites' review there is a very pleasant surprise he talks about.... upcoming support for BlackMagic Designs Decklink series of SDI boards. Apparently they've been testing them at the Madison HQ, but they are not quite ready for release. Hooray!!!!!. Instead of me going into detail, read the review... Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 10:01 AM Here's the link: http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=25081 You can also read my first looks in the Vegas Tips, Tricks, and Scripts Newsletter: http://www.jetdv.com/tts Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 10:04 AM http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/shopping/category.asp?id=10 Upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas+DVD – from $299.95 Upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas+DVD Production Suite. Upgrade Vegas LE to Vegas 5 – from $399.95 Upgrade any version of Vegas Audio LE or Vegas Video LE to Vegas 5. Upgrade Vegas LE to Vegas+DVD – from $599.95 Upgrade any version of Vegas Audio LE or Vegas Video LE to Vegas+DVD. Upgrade Vegas to Vegas 5 – from $199.95 Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, or Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas 5. Upgrade Vegas to Vegas+DVD – from $299.95 Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas+DVD. Upgrade Vegas+DVD to Vegas+DVD – from $249.95 Upgrade Vegas+DVD (Vegas 4 and DVD Architect 1) to Vegas+DVD (Vegas 5 and DVD Architect 2). Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 10:06 AM Yeah that's exactly what I did when I got the boxed version of Vegas+DVD, rather than installing it from the disc I went and downloaded 4.0c and only used the serial from the instruction guides to install them. How about if I DO want the printed manuals for V5 and DVDA2? Can they be purchased? Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 10:08 AM The manuals in the box are just "startup guides". The real manual is in PDF format on the CD/download. You have to print your own manual. Same was true with Vegas 4. Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM Hmm, now that you mention it- I DO remember it being called the quick start guide. Thanks- I'll be ordering the downloadable Vegas+DVD tonight! Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 11:00 AM How soon for a Tsunami, Exalibur, and Neon for Vegas 5? Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 11:02 AM How about: NOW!!! They have all been updated to work properly with Vegas 5. Information will be forthcoming on how to obtain the updates. Updates for Excalibur and Neon will be handled through Gary. Details on Tsunami have totally been worked out yet. Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 11:52 AM I'm looking for a way to output a real-time preview to external monitor without using my rather akward DV cam as the Digital to Analog device to free up some desktop space, etc. Is this what I need: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=244508&is=REG&si=feat#goto_itemInfo I read the description and it said something about a Canopus "codec"...I'd have to safely assume that's only going from analog to digital not digital to analog like I need for real-time preview to external monitor....correct? Is this unit powered by IEEE? Lastly, is there a cheaper solution- other than using your DV cam as the Dv to Analog device? Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 11:58 AM The ADVC-100 will work fine. Many people are using it instead of a camera. I've never used one but I image it will need to be powered via an electrical outlet. Tom Cooper April 19th, 2004, 02:13 PM And this was before I discovered the Distributed Rendering. Very cool!! :) I knew having three high-powered machines on a gigabit LAN was going to come in handy someday. This is going to dramatically increase my project throughput. Definitely worth the $200 upgrade, and I haven't even gotten to the other new features. Dan Lahav April 19th, 2004, 02:19 PM thanks for the advice, however, when i render, i get black bars to the right/left of the footage Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 03:03 PM I follow the link for the $199 upgrade via my email from Sony...enter my DVD architect 1 serial # and click "purchase" it brings me to the next screen with a bunch of products (vegas, acid, soundforge) ...yet on the right it says shopping cart empty?! I tried calling customer support and OF COURSE...it's busy. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Update: Figured it out- cookies were disabled. Moderator can delete this post unless this might help anyone going to the site to download it. Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 03:19 PM Glad you solved the problem. We'll leave it here in case someone else experiences the same problem. Thanks for tracking down the problem and posting what it was. Don Donatello April 19th, 2004, 04:19 PM before rendering you are getting a Vegas 16x9 preview window and the image fills the 16x9 ( no letterbox or black on sides) once your clip fills the 16x9 V preview it is set for rendering a 16x9 (no letterbox ) are you using the a NTSC widescreen template when you render? Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 05:58 PM These might be a bit premature but I just figured I'd mention them.... 1. Vegas 5 seems like it takes a hair longer to load. Once it loads it shows the desktop through the preview window for the first second it's on the screen. 2. I dragged a filter from my video effects palette onto a clip on the timeline. I went to remove the effect but noticed the event FX button wasn't lit. I clicked on it and low and behold no filter. Oddly enough the filter WAS still on the video. After further investigation I found the filter was on the track level....odd? I specifically drug the effect to the event on the timeline, NOT the track level. 3. Vegas 5 crashed on me. The first time I loaded it I placed a clip on the timeline and applied the new chroma blur filter- with the chroma blur dialog still open I went to click the timeline to start playing back with the chroma blur window still opened- plop...Vegas crashed...odd because Vegas NEVER crashes. 6. Not exactly "Vegas" related but- has anyone noticed that Magic Bullet's "War Epic Dark" and "War Epic Light" are EXACTLY the same with no change at all?! Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 06:04 PM How do you get Boris Graffiti to work INSIDE Vegas 5? Will Fastie April 19th, 2004, 06:42 PM You buy the actual product. The LTD version is stand-alone only. $199 for a plug-in version, a special deal. Edward Troxel April 19th, 2004, 07:41 PM I agree that the preview screen takes a moment to load. However, I've noticed the same thing at times with Vegas 3. I tried numbers 2 and 3 but couldn't duplicate the problem. I can't try #4 as I haven't loaded the Magic Bullet Plugin. Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 08:02 PM Like I said- they may be a bit premature....it only happened once and even I couldn't reproduce them. #2 could be just a case of me losing my mind. Overall I like it- I wish I would have known Sony went with pastel'ish colors I could have created the Tsunami, Excalibur, and Neon buttons accordingly and made them look more at home. John Hartney April 19th, 2004, 08:04 PM It looks like you'll have to buy a vegas license from Sony for each of the machines you want to render on the network. Si? Rob Easler April 19th, 2004, 08:13 PM Actually Will you can get Graffiti 3 from Boris for $149 with any Graffiti version including Ltd. It has the plug ins needed. At least that's what Boris told me. Check out http://stores.yahoo.com/artel-software/graf20up.html Richard Gregg April 19th, 2004, 08:22 PM I'm sure I read on the Vegas 5 site (or in the manual) that each licence of Vegas 5 comes with 2 licences for network rendering. So I assume you can have a total of 3 machines rendering on your network with 1 licence. Glen Elliott April 19th, 2004, 09:28 PM I installed the new Vegas+DVD today. However, oddly enough, all my audio plugins are still called "Sonic Foundry". Not only that- they reside in the "Third-Party Folder"....not the "Sony" folder?! http://www.msprotege.com/members/LazerBlueP5/Sonic%20Foundry.jpg http://www.msprotege.com/members/LazerBlueP5/Sony%20folder.jpg Is this normal? Dwight Flynn April 20th, 2004, 07:40 AM Hi folks, I have been unable to get straight answers about Vegas 5 and its HDV capabilities. I would like to know the following. 1. Will it caputre the hdv stream natively from the camera (e.g. hd10u, etc) or will I still have to use a separate capture utility 2. Will it allow for any capture from the camera in other formats or is the m2t (transport stream) still the only option. 3. If it will capture from the camera and mpeg is still the only option will it give a mpeg2 (program stream) file natively or is the m2t the only option 4. Has it been optimized to speed up and improve the quality of editing and rendering (e.g. eliminating the jerky look, artifacts, and especially the chroma noise you get with vegas 4. Any answers is greatly appreciated! Thanks Peter Moore April 20th, 2004, 09:04 AM Does the new DVDA support dual layer? Don't see any mention of it on the site. I would be really surprised if it didn't, with the new Sony Dual Layer burner on the horizon. Glen Elliott April 20th, 2004, 01:01 PM No...but hopefully it's a feature that is able to be added in a future patch. Jason Casey April 20th, 2004, 01:02 PM I doubt it supports it now since the technology isn't out on the market yet. I would pretty much bet that once the technology is available, an upgrade will be available to support it as well. Sam Forbes April 20th, 2004, 07:45 PM Ok fellas/ladies, I currently own Pinnacle 8 and am ready to upgrade. Pinnacle was very easy to use which I liked but it simply looks like an amatuer film when you are done. I have heard that Vegas is the top of the line for PC when considering overall function and ease of use. I don't really need all the crazy affects, I'm not looking to make a movie like the Matrix. I really need good slow motion, Pinnacle slow motion was horrible and there was no sound. Can you get slow motion sound with Vegas? Meaning, can you slow down the audio along with the video for that neat distorted sound? I considered Premier Pro but have been told by several people that it is not user friendly comapared to Vegas. I also need dvd rendering. Any feedback would be appreciated. David Mintzer April 20th, 2004, 08:40 PM emmmmmm--mine say nothing----just the name of the fx, no reference to Sony or Sonic. Check over at their site. Edward Troxel April 20th, 2004, 09:03 PM Yes you can change the speed of the audio in Vegas (with many options available) as long as you want a SINGLE speed change. Just hold down the CTRL key and resize the clip. Stephen Warriner April 20th, 2004, 09:09 PM The ADVC-100 goes both ways, is powered by a plug not IEEE although it does have both 4 and 6 pin firewire ports. Douglas Spotted Eagle April 21st, 2004, 12:32 AM You can drop the m2t on the timeline and edit it. You need to capture in another app. you can rename the m2t as mpg and do that as well. Chroma noise? Huh? Jerky look is related to non-native transcode to DV for output. You can't monitor non-DV on an external monitor, that's what the firewire cable passes for external preview. On my 3.06 (and on the demo machines Sony is showing) playback is snappy on a 2 stream m2t timeline. Vegas CAN edit HDV. It's not optimized to do so. Hence, the Cineform option. With the intermediary AVI, you get MUCH better result. Not to mention external preview. Graham Bernard April 21st, 2004, 12:35 AM I've got the Canopus ACEDVio card in the pc. Works beautifully! Rob Lohman April 21st, 2004, 02:57 AM Thanks Jay! Much appreciated. Rob Lohman April 21st, 2004, 05:27 AM You can try out the demo of the just released Vegas 5 here (http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/). Always good to try out yourself before you go and buy a product. You can also find a demo of Premiere Pro on the Adobe (www.adobe.com) site. |