Hi,

I tried asking this elsewhere and am still frustrated; I hope it's a simple error I'm committing....
I'm importing a 720 x 480 10-second clip into ParticleIllusion (PI)
as a background, adding my effects (in this case, snow),
then removing the background and rendering only the snow as
a TGA with alpha channel.

In Vegas, I am importing this TGA file as an image sequence and placing it above the desired footage on the timeline--and now it is snowing on my desired footage. Here are the problems:

1) the TGA file sequence has a size of 598x480x32, even though the project settings in PI were set to 720x480.


2) For whatever reason, the snow effect is at least twice as fast as it was in PI. In other words, after rendering it in PI, it is now snowing twice as fast as intended, plus what looked like snow in PI, now looks like square snowflakes;

In Vegas, I right click on the PI created file, select properties/and have these settings:

attributes: 598x480x32
format: Targa RLE
frame rate: 29.970 NTSC
field order: none (but I have tried changing it to lower field first with no success)
pixel aspect ratio: 0.9091 (NTSC DV)
alpha channel: pre-multiplied


When I right click the video file/properties/I have these settings:

720x480x24
format: DV
field order: lower field first
pixel aspect ratio: 0.9091 (ntsc dv)

For whatever reason, I'm still getting the special effects (snow) at what looks like twice the speed--maybe even faster than that--from what I created in PI. Yet the frame rates show they are identical.

And despite setting my settings for 720x480 in PI and hitting alt +3 before rendering, the size--as you can tell by the properties--is different.

Any help greatly appreciated!

--Dale

Yes -- ver 5 looks great. Thanks for the reply -- be well!

I am wondering, what is the advantage of paying a Co. like DVfilm to do uncompressed color correction on DV files destined for filmout as oppossed to doing it with the Vegas color correction tools. Thanks!!!

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Mickey Grackin
mgrackin@oicproductions.net

I'm trying to make a 256k Windows Media Video file for the internet from some XL1 footage, but first I want to get rid of the infamous black border bars.

I take my clip into Vegas, click the Track Motion... button on the video's track, and increase the dimensions of the clip to "grow" it enough so that the black border bars no longer show. The clip previews correctly.

Then I choose "Render As..." WMV, render, sit back and wait.

But the rendered WMV file still has the black border bars, as if the Track Motion enlargement was never applied.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the advice--

Try using the "Match Output Aspect" setting in the Pan/Crop window instead.

Another option may be the "Stretch to Fill Frame" option on the "Render As" screen.

I don't understand this.

I have 3 video clips on separate tracks one on top of another. I've tried to add the Sony Border (Blurred) to the even on track 1. But it's not working properly. It's giving me a sort of transparent-ish border with the lower layers showing through. It doesn't matter whether I do this at the clip level or the track level. If I SOLO track 1 - or mute the others - it all works fine. I've checked the opacity of track 1 and its set to 100%. No track motion or pan/crop.

There are NO effects on the lower tracks/events or media. No compositing - nothing.

Help!

Thanx

Ian

That's the way it works -- it makes the edges transparent. Either have nothing below the clip, or put a black card under it.

David

Oh my god - of course it does - and that explains how you'd get different coloured blurred borders doesn't it. We have a phrase in the UK - "What a Plonker" - that's me.

Thank you so much.

Ian
(obviously a Vegas novice)

Any time a Vegas effect preset icon has a little checkerboard in it (though it's admittedly harder to see in the "Soft Edge" icon), it means it's putting in an alpha channel, a transparency.

Try using the "Match Output Aspect" setting in the Pan/Crop window instead.

I don't see anything that looks quite like that. Don't suppose you can walk me through it?

Sorry, Edward, I tried the "Stretch to Fill Frame" to no effect.

Did you try the stretch to fill frame in the pan/crop window?

I don't see anything ("Match Output Aspect" setting in the Pan/Crop window) that looks quite like that. Don't suppose you can walk me through it?

Put a clip on the timeline. Click the "Event Pan/Crop" button (small square button near the top right of the event). Now right click anywhere in this new window and select "Match Output Aspect". If you watch your clip (in the preview window), you should see it get slightly larger, eliminating the black borders. That's it.

Thanks for walking me through that, Mike--unfortunately it didn't change anything. As I said in the original post, in the preview, the clip looks as I want it, but when I choose Render As... it seems to ignore what's going on in the preview and does its own thing.

ETA: I tried adjusting the crop borders in the Event Pan/Crop window to close over the black borders, and this seems to have worked.

Did you try the stretch to fill frame in the pan/crop window?

It says Yes by default.

Hey all,

I am currently doing a wrestling DVD for a company, and I am having the following trouble.

I have on Track 1 and 2 the full match and audio

Then on tracks 3 5 and 7 I have the instant replay set up. I have that working fine and everything seems good on the preview window, but then when I render it out, it is missing out the first instant replay.

It just plays on as if the instant replay isn't even there, but when it comes to the next replay screen, one minute later it works like a charm.

Does anyone know why it would completely miss out something on a different track even when it shows up on the preview window and plays another replay on the same track fine ?

This is probably hard to understand, so if anyone needs anything explained further I'll clarify on it

Thanks in advance

Scott

Well - I must say I'm having a load of fun editing my first wedding video using Vegas - and the help I'm getting from this board is fantastic. But sometimes it's the simpler things that I struggle with...

I've made quite a nice picture wall using event pan/crop and track motion - I have 12 tracks stacked on top of each other. I now want to fade out the entire wall, not each individual clip. The only way I've worked out how to do this is to put a black solid as the top event starting opaque and use keyframes to decrease the opacity at the end. I probably can't see the wood for the trees - is there an easier way?

Thanx

Ian

That's what I do - except I assume you meant to say: the solid black starts transparent and increases to opaque?

Martin

I sure did mean that. See - intensive editing puddles your brain!

Thanx

Ian

Ian, there are two "Fade In-Out Cursor" scripts on the VASST site at http://www.vasst.com/search.aspx?text=Fade%20In-Out%20Cursor that should do what you want. Make sure to do a CTRL-A (select all) before running the script.

Additionally, you can select "CRTL+SHIFT+B" to show the master video bus.
Right click to insert the fade envelope, and then fade all video at that point.

when you say missing the first instant replay is it; playing black, going right past it and playing the next scene or what. Please a bit more info about what its doing-HOWEVER while waiting also check those track and see if for some reason you have them muted or the opacity level is down to 0 or something else like that just to make sure.

Don

Additionally, you can select "CRTL+SHIFT+B" to show the master video bus.
Right click to insert the fade envelope, and then fade all video at that point.

And a much easier solution than mine :-)
Thanks for the suggestion Douglas.

The stock mic that comes with the A1 doesn't have much low end to begin with.

Thanks for the reply Don,
What happens is the following, when it gets to the first instant replay part, I use PIP to split to different pieces up (the replay and the current footage). When it gets to the replay part, it just goes on (with no skipping or anything) as though nothing has been done at all, it completely ignores the PIP that I have. Then when it goes on to the second one, a few minutes later, it is completly fine. Also, when I am viewing the first instant replay in the preview screen, it works perfectly fine, so I am guessing it has something to do with the rednering process.

Thanks for your reply

Scott

So when you preview it it's OK but when you render it doesn't work out as in the preview?

HMMMMMM, let's take some wild guesses. FIRST what format are you rendering to AVI then MPEG or straight to MPEG?

SECOND, do you have the PARENT/CHILD relationship enacted on he trackes that aren't working?

THIRD, the 2nd PiP or instant replay - is it on other vid tracks.
In other words do you have the base footage on say track 7 and the PiP instant replays on tracks 5 and 6 and then track 3 and 4 etc.

The reason I ask is perhaps somewhere in there something is either turned on or off that shouldn't be and it really doesn't show in preview.

My experience is that if it works in preview it works in the finished product.

Take one more look thru just to be sure that everything is ON or OFF as it should be.

Don

1. It doesn't matter what format I render to, it is always the same outcome

2. I haven't done anything to alter the parent child status.

3. The instant replay is on different tracks. I'll give a basic run down.

I have the subclip of the instant replay on track 3, then I have the CURRENT footage playing on track 5, but deleted from track 1 to allow the instant replay screen to show up. And then finally on track 7 I have the instant replay screen

I've got a quick appointment this AM then I'll try to duplicate what you've got going here and see what happens-stay tuned.

Don

Hello,
I have a question concerning the 'script' command under tools' menu for 6.0d. I'm new to the 'Vegas' scene. I recently installed VASST Gearshift latest version but the script line doesn't show up in Vegas 6.0d under Tools.
I have the movie studio + dvd platinum edition. Is it corrupt installation of Vegas 6 or should I have the professional version of Vegas in order to see menu item?
ie Tools> Scripting

As I understand it, movie studio doesn't support scripting unfortunately. :(

This may sound like a dumb question but which one (Vegas) has the script command on the Tools menu?

Scott,
I did a real quickie similar I think to what you've got going and everything came out fine-not only in Vegas but also in DVDA-granted it was very short and probably isn't exactly what you have done but I used various PiPs on my main footage and threw it in as an "instant replay" and I cannot duplicate the problem you're having.
I gotta tell you, I'm fresh out of ideas-It sounds like the track is muted but you said that in the Vegas preview it works so it can't be that. Perhaps you can redo just that 1 PiP instant replay that isn't showing and try it again. Don't have to redo the whole project just the 1 peice -bring it in fresh and see what happens. I wish I could give you a definitive answer.

Good Luck,
Don

Only the full version of Vegas supports scripting. None of the "Movie Studio" versions do.

Vegas Movie Studio (standard and Platinum) are only up to version 6.0b

The full version of Vegas is now at 6.0d

I will be editing my first multi cam event next week and am looking hard at both of these plugins to ease the process. What are your thoughts and experiences with these two? I am leaning towards Ex due to the strong support over the years on these forums and Mr Troxel's generous contributions to my knowledge through his posts and newsletters. Than again DSE has also provided a ton of info.......





Thanks guys, I'll have a look at the videos and demos.

All four multicam editing plug ins offer demos. You might find that a good means to find what works best for you.

have got your system running?

full frame preview using quadro's component in vegas?
this is also an answer i'd like to hear!

please share us the experience!
cheers!

have u tried capturing your HDV m2ts using HDVSplit?

if it works, then your firewire is OK.

I agree with Spot - it's best to just test them out. There's also videos demoing how each works as well which you might also want to watch.

Good for you mate! :)

u can use the built it 'track effects' in vegas. In every track vegas automatically preped a line of common effect already active. You just need to set the EQ track effect for low cut & you're done.

Hi, I need to flip the image along the central horizontal axis but I cannot find a fliter that does it.

I heard speak of 'Allens flip' in another thread -anyone know the answer?


Nick.

Anyone have any info on how well Vegas 6 could utilize the Dual SLI connection of a new video card like this one?

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=1

I know Vegas takes advantage of dual CPUs ok (not so much Magic Bullet addons) and wondering if anyone's had a good experience working w/ multiple cards and if there's a performance increase.

Oh, to have realtime preview....

You can use Adam Woodworth's flip, or you can flip in Pan/Crop as well. Woodworth's flip is more CPU efficient.
www.mirkwood.com

The stock mic that comes with the A1 doesn't have much low end to begin with.

I am using the ME-64

Anyone have any info on how well Vegas 6 could utilize the Dual SLI connection of a new video card like this one?

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=1

I know Vegas takes advantage of dual CPUs ok (not so much Magic Bullet addons) and wondering if anyone's had a good experience working w/ multiple cards and if there's a performance increase.

Oh, to have realtime preview....

I would also be interested to know this. I do not have dual video cards, but my current card/mobo allow for it. I have not read much on the SLI connection, but it does sound promising. Hopefully someone will have experience with this. I am wondering if the MOBO/video cards are the main players with this technology and not the individual programs. Yes, the dual CPU is really dependent on the program you are using, but I wonder if this is different.

Thanks for your help Don, I'll have a play around with the settings and have a look at what I have done, then completely redo the instant replay segment.

Once again, thanks

Scott

(title should say "one BIG one..." - but I don't know how to change the title)

I've posted this here as I use DVD Architect which is sort of linked with Vegas! But mods - feel free to moove to somewhere more appropriate.

I'm just completing my first wedding production and was wondering if there is a best way of compiling the DVD:

1 - Create one huge mpeg in Vegas (using nested projects) and use chapter points to marke a particular point in that file - or
2 - create an mpeg for each section and the chapter points will point to the begining of each file.

or doesn't it really matter?

Thanx

Ian

It really doesn't matter as it will work either way. Personally I prefer to to take my AVIs for the project and create a single large MPEG-it's just the way I've pretty much always done it for weddings-but that's just me. AVIs to MPEG with the chapter points in Vegas using AC3 audio of course, and then into DVDa to create the DVD-a very simple procedure.
BTW in method #2 in order for the chapters to move from 1 to another you need to add END ACTIONS from each chapter to point to the next one-an added step that I find unnecessary by rendering 1 large file. Same amount of time I guess but this way I render whil I sleep ;-)

Don

I prefer one big MPEG2 file. I find it's easier than trying to string a bunch of smaller files together - especially if you want it to play all the way through. Plus, going backwards to previous chapters will work correctly.

Hi Adam,

I am just about to explore the world of '35mm adapters' so need a flip tool -thanks for this.

Does the flip tool sort out the issues with interlaced flicker: I found this thread that discussed the problem:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=62601

-I am using Vegas 6d btw.


Regards, Nick.