NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Steve LaClair · July 13th, 2004, 02:57 PM

Hello, right now i'm torn between a 2nd Serial ATA drive or external firewire800. I'm leaning more towards the firewire800 due to portability, but my main concern is that does it move data quick enough where I can edit dv projects off that drive without moving them over to my primary Serial ATA drive?

Mark Sloan · July 13th, 2004, 03:49 PM

Word going around is that an external 7200RPM Firewire 800 drive will give you equivalent to an internal ATA/133. This site has some stats:
http://barefeats.com/fire37b.html

Firewire 800 was getting sustained read/writes of 54/50 megabytes per second. Manufacturer mattered very little.

Mark Sloan · July 13th, 2004, 03:53 PM

Was your clip captured in 12 bit audio? That might be the cause. Check the clip's audio profile (bits, hz) and see if it matches your setup.

Tyler Spiers · July 13th, 2004, 04:21 PM

It is in 16 bit. For some reason when I capture long clips, it beeps loudly, like it needs to be rendered.

Jeff Donald · July 13th, 2004, 04:21 PM

Is there a red bar in the timeline? Render you audio.

July 13th, 2004, 04:41 PM

Steve,
A FireWire800 drive would be more than fast enough to handle DV editing.
I use a FireWire 400 drive and haven't had any problems.

Mike Hanlon · July 13th, 2004, 05:58 PM

Yes, the beeping is definitely telling you that audio needs to be rendered, but I can't see how that is related to the length of the clip. I captured a full hour several times and never ran into that.

The only thing I can think of is the capture settings are set for something other than two channels of 48k hz, 16 bit sound and this is causing a problem.

Of course you can always throw away your preferences and see if it persists.

Mike.

Jeff Donald · July 13th, 2004, 06:00 PM

It may have to do what amount of ram and other system parameters.

Steve LaClair · July 13th, 2004, 08:06 PM

Thanks for all the quick replies guys! I'll definitely be picking up a Lacie drive this week.

Josh Brusin · July 14th, 2004, 03:22 PM

http://www.sancube.com/sc800specs.htm

pretty sweet... I have 2 of the older ones fs... but these new ones work in OSX.

Ray Echevers · July 14th, 2004, 09:36 PM

I too am looking to get either an internal SATA drive 250GB or a Lacie external 250GB drive.
I'm leaning towards the SATA internal, cuz i would not need to share a drive between computers or need the drive to be mobile.
The SATA is faster and more reliable?

Chet Hardin · July 15th, 2004, 08:27 AM

What do you use to edit 24p on your macs? What are the options of editing software for macs?

Thanks.

Jeff Donald · July 15th, 2004, 09:11 AM

FCP HD and the included Cinema Tools. That's all you'll need.

Graeme Nattress · July 15th, 2004, 09:22 AM

Final Cut Pro works great for 24p editing.

Graeme

Joe Calalang · July 15th, 2004, 11:26 AM

http://uk.download.yahoo.com/ne/fu/a...s/formula1.wmv

I'm sort of a car enthusiast and I thought this clip was pretty funny! Does anyone know of a software that can do this? I'm new at this video editing thing. Thanks.

"My lug nuts have more torque than your Civic". *winks*

July 13th, 2004, 02:57 PM	#946
Steve LaClair Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fayetteville, North Carolina/ Upstate NY Posts: 40	Quick Storage Question Hello, right now i'm torn between a 2nd Serial ATA drive or external firewire800. I'm leaning more towards the firewire800 due to portability, but my main concern is that does it move data quick enough where I can edit dv projects off that drive without moving them over to my primary Serial ATA drive? __________________ -Steve LaClair http://www.skateperception.com/

July 13th, 2004, 04:21 PM	#949
Tyler Spiers New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 19	No. 16 bit It is in 16 bit. For some reason when I capture long clips, it beeps loudly, like it needs to be rendered.

July 13th, 2004, 04:21 PM	#950
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Is there a red bar in the timeline? Render you audio. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 13th, 2004, 06:00 PM	#953
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It may have to do what amount of ram and other system parameters. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 13th, 2004, 08:06 PM	#954
Steve LaClair Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fayetteville, North Carolina/ Upstate NY Posts: 40	Thanks for all the quick replies guys! I'll definitely be picking up a Lacie drive this week. __________________ -Steve LaClair http://www.skateperception.com/

July 13th, 2004, 03:49 PM	#947
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Word going around is that an external 7200RPM Firewire 800 drive will give you equivalent to an internal ATA/133. This site has some stats: http://barefeats.com/fire37b.html Firewire 800 was getting sustained read/writes of 54/50 megabytes per second. Manufacturer mattered very little.

July 13th, 2004, 03:53 PM	#948
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Was your clip captured in 12 bit audio? That might be the cause. Check the clip's audio profile (bits, hz) and see if it matches your setup.

July 13th, 2004, 04:41 PM	#951
Erik Olsen Posts: n/a	Steve, A FireWire800 drive would be more than fast enough to handle DV editing. I use a FireWire 400 drive and haven't had any problems.

July 13th, 2004, 05:58 PM	#952
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	Yes, the beeping is definitely telling you that audio needs to be rendered, but I can't see how that is related to the length of the clip. I captured a full hour several times and never ran into that. The only thing I can think of is the capture settings are set for something other than two channels of 48k hz, 16 bit sound and this is causing a problem. Of course you can always throw away your preferences and see if it persists. Mike.

July 14th, 2004, 03:22 PM	#955
Josh Brusin Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 439	New sancubes shared fw800 arrays... http://www.sancube.com/sc800specs.htm pretty sweet... I have 2 of the older ones fs... but these new ones work in OSX.

July 14th, 2004, 09:36 PM	#956
Ray Echevers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 148	I too am looking to get either an internal SATA drive 250GB or a Lacie external 250GB drive. I'm leaning towards the SATA internal, cuz i would not need to share a drive between computers or need the drive to be mobile. The SATA is faster and more reliable? __________________ Sony VX-1000 G5 1.8 dual 91 Turbo MR2

July 15th, 2004, 08:27 AM	#957
Chet Hardin Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Troy Ny Posts: 60	Mac and 24p What do you use to edit 24p on your macs? What are the options of editing software for macs? Thanks.

July 15th, 2004, 09:11 AM	#958
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	FCP HD and the included Cinema Tools. That's all you'll need. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2004, 09:22 AM	#959
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	Final Cut Pro works great for 24p editing. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

July 15th, 2004, 11:26 AM	#960
Joe Calalang Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 84	Newb question : what software can do this? http://uk.download.yahoo.com/ne/fu/a...s/formula1.wmv I'm sort of a car enthusiast and I thought this clip was pretty funny! Does anyone know of a software that can do this? I'm new at this video editing thing. Thanks. "My lug nuts have more torque than your Civic". winks