Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

Oh I didn't mean to imply that I would use blanks. What I meant is that several movies and TV shows nowadays don't use blanks, and use CGI effects, like in the film riot video. Couldn't I just use something like that?

For exampe, the show Fargo, is a current hit show, and they use CGI gun effects. Like in this scene:


Could I just do that instead to save a lot of money compared to blanks and squibs, since that show got away with it and viewers didn't care that it was CGI?

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

Well I thought that pretty rubbish to be honest, and is doing CGI another of your skills? you've never mentioned it before, but you'd need to be much better to convince me, the total non-expert that they were real!

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

No but I know others I have worked with before who have done it. But if it's rubbish, then why is the show such a hit then, and was never called out on bad special effects?

What about the gunshots I had in the short film I posted on here before? The CGI muzzleflash from the gun happens at 7:23 into clip:


Is that muzzleflash convincing look enough?

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

It's up to you to decide if CGI gunshots look right for your film, we're not directing it.

The quality of the gunshots will depend on the people doing your visual effects, there's no point in showing productions that have way larger budgets and use effects people who specialise in creating CGI. Your total budget probably wouldn't cover their catering costs, so you need to test your effects people, otherwise it's fantasy film making.

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

The first one yes, second one, in a more close up angle, no.

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

Okay well in my observations, I would say the CGI muzzleflashes look real enough but not the CGI blood.

Film riot also did a tutorial on how to do do gunshot blood splatter but having a pack of blood behind your shirt, and shooting the blood out with air pressure. They show it at about 7:50 into the video:


So I thought it would be realistic enough looking to use CGI muzzleflashes, with the practical blood effects they use. The one thing I haven't figured out yet is the smoke from the gunshot, but in the videos I did before, people said they didn't notice smoke lacking as lack as I shoot and edit right, if that's true... There is smoke you can add into the footage, but all the smoke effects I have, the smoke dissipates way too quickly. I can try to put it in slow motion, using a slow motion program like twixter maybe, and see how that looks.

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

Oh okay, is the second in the close up too exaggerated, compared to the first?

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

When I was teaching media studies, I had two very keen students - always first in last out. always booking the studio and edit suites and we let them have a pretty free reign.

One day they asked if they could use the studio after college to finish a scene. I said yes, without any real thought. I went in to see how they were doing and my jaw dropped in horror - and I ran in panicking and stopped what they were doing. The scene was a guy having his belly sliced open by a samurai with a sword.
A REAL ULTRA SHARP SAMURAI SWORD!

They had marked the floor with tape, and with the camera running one slashed, and missed. Then they'd move in to the next mark and do it again, until the blade slashed through the shirt cutting into the bag of offal they had bought from the nearby butchers.

I couldn't believe they were so stupid and put a stop to it. They shrugged and said "OK then, we'll go with the one we shot yesterday" . Same setup but not enough offal!!!!!

Scared me seriously how dangerous this was. Secretly I had to admire how good the previous shot was when they showed me. I told them if anyone asked, for goodness say it was CGI or I would have been fired!

The movie, sadly, was terrible. Awful script, dreadful camerawork and flawed sound. The social effect scene was very realistic - mainly because it was real blood, a real sword and a real slash through the shirt.

Re: Is FrameForge worth buying for storyboarding?
 

Yeah I definitely wouldn't want to do anything like that. I used fake knives before for a previous short and we grinded the blades to be very dull for the knife fight.