How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography?

Pete Cofrancesco · November 14th, 2020, 10:07 AM

Good point Paul. My comments are just a general impression of him talking about his film as a series of events and my feelings how his previous movies have turned out.

Josh Bass · November 14th, 2020, 10:46 AM

If youre gonna do that you should just encourage him to send the whole screenplay or however much he’s got.

Paul R Johnson · November 14th, 2020, 11:35 AM

Pete - yes, that's the impression I got. Brian's pretty good on script stuff, far better than me - but all we have is that 'gut reaction' which could be wrong if Ryan doesn't explain accurately.

Ryan Elder · November 14th, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale

Yes, but in drama, you need more, without being melodramatic about it. Especially, if this is the first time that the audience comes across the prosecutor. Having the cop persuade the prosecutor against his initial decision (which he wants to hold onto) to this new one is what would make the scene more interesting.

The conflict and struggle reveals more about the characters, that's why in films conveying a vital piece of information is made difficult.

Oh yeah, but I felt I had that kind of drama, since the prosecutor thinks the case is too problematic to go ahead, with, and the cop is pushing him to take the risk, even though he may likely lose, etc... Later he loses and it looks bad for the cop then.

So I thought I still had that kind of drama.

As for posting the script, well I was going to have a script consultant rewrite the dialogue first, to make it better. I could post some, it's just I don't know how to get it on here, without the format becoming messed up.

Paul R Johnson · November 14th, 2020, 01:03 PM

The format doesn't matter Ryan - The script consultant sounds a bit worrying?

What are you producing it in? Word? Simplest would probably to drop box it and post a link to it for those interested? That keeps it more private.

Josh Bass · November 14th, 2020, 01:06 PM

Just export it to pdf...that should “solidify” the formatting no matter how it originated

Ryan Elder · November 14th, 2020, 01:06 PM

Oh okay, thanks, I can see about that. I wrote it in MMS.

Why are the script consultants worrying? I was told my dialogue is not good, so shouldn't I get someone else with better experience to rewrite it therefore?

Brian Drysdale · November 14th, 2020, 02:32 PM

Script consultants don't rewrite dialogue, you do. If you want the dialogue rewritten you employ another writer.

Ryan Elder · November 14th, 2020, 02:40 PM

Oh okay, I can do that then. There is a particular person I have in mind who I thought of as a script consultant who offered to rewrite it, if I pay him to of course, but I can go to another writer, if not.

Brian Drysdale · November 14th, 2020, 04:01 PM

If you're paying them as a writer, it could cost your entire budget.

Because someone is a script consultant, it doesn't automatically mean that they're good writers.

Pete Cofrancesco · November 14th, 2020, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Elder

Oh okay, I can do that then. There is a particular person I have in mind who I thought of as a script consultant who offered to rewrite it, if I pay him to of course, but I can go to another writer, if not.

It might cut into his prop budget. ie no handcuffs :-(

To tell you the truth I'm not too keen on seeing the entire script. I can only handle so many problems. Ryan why don't you just post a page or two of this particular scene.

Ryan Elder · November 14th, 2020, 07:29 PM

Oh okay. Well here is a link to the scene if that helps. If I am not allowed to post links, I can take it down:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lhi...ew?usp=sharing

Brian Drysdale · November 15th, 2020, 02:22 AM

It's a rather ponderous scene and if this is the first time the audience comes across the prosecutor they don't know who he is, since it's never mentioned and so it's this unknown person talking on the phone. The audience can't see the name on the script.

Ryan Elder · November 15th, 2020, 02:34 AM

Oh okay, thanks. I can give the prosecutor a name. It's just he is never mentioned by name and is always referred to as the CP (crown prosecutor), but I can give him a name.

How is it ponderous exactly? You said it came off as clumbsy before, but why exactly, or what are the specifics now?

Brian Drysdale · November 15th, 2020, 02:42 AM

The dialogue is ponderous, it's not sharp, there are unnecessary words, it's all on the nose, there's no sub text. If the prosecutor is important character in this he's just a voice, that fine if it's the mysterious criminal mastermind or a hoaxer sending phone messages, but not in this case.

Read some film scripts and look at the dialogue.

November 14th, 2020, 10:07 AM	#151
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,995	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Good point Paul. My comments are just a general impression of him talking about his film as a series of events and my feelings how his previous movies have turned out.

November 14th, 2020, 10:46 AM	#152
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? If youre gonna do that you should just encourage him to send the whole screenplay or however much he’s got. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

November 14th, 2020, 11:35 AM	#153
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Pete - yes, that's the impression I got. Brian's pretty good on script stuff, far better than me - but all we have is that 'gut reaction' which could be wrong if Ryan doesn't explain accurately.

November 14th, 2020, 01:03 PM	#155
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? The format doesn't matter Ryan - The script consultant sounds a bit worrying? What are you producing it in? Word? Simplest would probably to drop box it and post a link to it for those interested? That keeps it more private.

November 14th, 2020, 01:06 PM	#156
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Just export it to pdf...that should “solidify” the formatting no matter how it originated __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

November 14th, 2020, 01:06 PM	#157
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,880	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Oh okay, thanks, I can see about that. I wrote it in MMS. Why are the script consultants worrying? I was told my dialogue is not good, so shouldn't I get someone else with better experience to rewrite it therefore?

November 14th, 2020, 02:32 PM	#158
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Script consultants don't rewrite dialogue, you do. If you want the dialogue rewritten you employ another writer.

November 14th, 2020, 02:40 PM	#159
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,880	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Oh okay, I can do that then. There is a particular person I have in mind who I thought of as a script consultant who offered to rewrite it, if I pay him to of course, but I can go to another writer, if not.

November 14th, 2020, 04:01 PM	#160
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? If you're paying them as a writer, it could cost your entire budget. Because someone is a script consultant, it doesn't automatically mean that they're good writers.

November 14th, 2020, 07:29 PM	#162
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,880	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Oh okay. Well here is a link to the scene if that helps. If I am not allowed to post links, I can take it down: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lhi...ew?usp=sharing

November 15th, 2020, 02:22 AM	#163
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? It's a rather ponderous scene and if this is the first time the audience comes across the prosecutor they don't know who he is, since it's never mentioned and so it's this unknown person talking on the phone. The audience can't see the name on the script.

November 15th, 2020, 02:34 AM	#164
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,880	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? Oh okay, thanks. I can give the prosecutor a name. It's just he is never mentioned by name and is always referred to as the CP (crown prosecutor), but I can give him a name. How is it ponderous exactly? You said it came off as clumbsy before, but why exactly, or what are the specifics now?

November 15th, 2020, 02:42 AM	#165
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography? The dialogue is ponderous, it's not sharp, there are unnecessary words, it's all on the nose, there's no sub text. If the prosecutor is important character in this he's just a voice, that fine if it's the mysterious criminal mastermind or a hoaxer sending phone messages, but not in this case. Read some film scripts and look at the dialogue.