Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Edward Troxel · July 28th, 2004, 08:18 PM

I believe Scenarist requires an elementary stream. You would need to check the "elementary stream" checkbox when encoding the MPEG2 file.

Edward Troxel · July 28th, 2004, 08:21 PM

The undersample rate allows you to simulate a lower framerate. Should not be needed for slowmotion, though.

Glen Elliott · July 28th, 2004, 08:46 PM

Charlie- move the footage and Veg files to the IOMEGA drive and bring it over. I'll hook it up and see if I can't figure something out. Maybe thursday or friday night. Call me and let me know.

Bogdan Vaglarov · July 28th, 2004, 11:17 PM

Adi, why don't you simply give DVA the avi file without rendering to mpeg in Vegas?
Prepare and burn should work fine in DVA and you'll have the mpeg file for future copies. This way you are also flexible to adjust the bitrate. If you give Architect too big mpeg file it might reencode.

Mark Paschke · July 28th, 2004, 11:30 PM

I will be able to see later this week If I have the same trouble and check back in, I wish i wasnt so busy I would try it tonight.

I am not sure I ever used 120 files (are you talking transitions, music, filters and such or just mT2s?) even for a 1 hour + wedding film but I will be sure to keep track when I finish

Adi Head · July 29th, 2004, 01:18 AM

edward, you were on the money!!! i checked "elementary stream", sent a sample mpeg-2 to the studio and now scenarist recognizes the file. thanks!!!

now, i can check to see if my problem is software based or not.

thanks again!

Edward Troxel · July 29th, 2004, 07:14 AM

DVDA 2 will also recognize elementary streams. DVDA 1 would not. So it is possible that you could simply use elementary streams for both.

Michael Mirochnik · July 29th, 2004, 08:29 AM

Hi Mark.
No transitions. Not sound yet just clips. No color corrections or any sort of filters. I can imagine what is going to happen with all this stuff. By the way my computer is now slouch ether. Pentium 4, 3.4. Raid 2 HD Western Digital Raptor 74 gig each. 2 gig 2 channels ram. Radeon 9800 Pro. I think it’s limitation of Vegas. But i would be appreciated for any type of help and suggestion. Thanks.

Bill Ravens · July 29th, 2004, 08:59 AM

Much more RAM is needed when processing HD, else the system spends all its time paging data into and out of the pagefile. 2 Gigs is the minimum recommended!

Mark Paschke · July 29th, 2004, 07:07 PM

wowsers, I am in trouble to start with, I am running 1 gig Ram with almost the same CPU as Michael ( with a Abit IC7 Max3 motherboard, 74 gig Raid Rapters, crappy ole GeForce 5200 and Sound Audigy) , with little troubles upto 20 minutes on the timeline now with multiple transitions and even some color correction experimentation.

whats the largest RAM you can buy? I guess Im gonna need more when its render time

Michael Mirochnik · July 30th, 2004, 01:41 PM

I have solved my problem; this is not the easiest way, but its work for me. I use Vegas foe smaller number of clips 15-20, I do everything what is necessary, composing, color correction etc. Then I render them in transport stream, and combine in MPEG editor, I forgot the name, which came with JVC. This program handle transport files very well. But still maybe buying Aspect HD not a bad solution either.

Mark Paschke · July 31st, 2004, 01:45 AM

Mark,
How do I manually change .mpg to .m2t?

Yi Fong Yu · July 31st, 2004, 03:36 PM

it's getting quite annoying. after time i would highlight a section of a clip i want to cut vegas crossfades the end result. how do i turn this off?

Jesse Rosten · July 31st, 2004, 04:23 PM

Turn the auto-crossfade on/off by hitting ctrl+shift+X.

There is also a button for it - usually at the top - looks kind of like bunny ears (or an "X")

peace
jes

Gustavo Nardelli · July 31st, 2004, 05:54 PM

Could you help me, telling me what workflow do you use in Vegas?

July 28th, 2004, 08:18 PM	#331
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I believe Scenarist requires an elementary stream. You would need to check the "elementary stream" checkbox when encoding the MPEG2 file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 28th, 2004, 08:21 PM	#332
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The undersample rate allows you to simulate a lower framerate. Should not be needed for slowmotion, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 29th, 2004, 07:14 AM	#337
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	DVDA 2 will also recognize elementary streams. DVDA 1 would not. So it is possible that you could simply use elementary streams for both. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 29th, 2004, 08:29 AM	#338
Michael Mirochnik New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA, NY Posts: 18	Hi Mark. No transitions. Not sound yet just clips. No color corrections or any sort of filters. I can imagine what is going to happen with all this stuff. By the way my computer is now slouch ether. Pentium 4, 3.4. Raid 2 HD Western Digital Raptor 74 gig each. 2 gig 2 channels ram. Radeon 9800 Pro. I think it’s limitation of Vegas. But i would be appreciated for any type of help and suggestion. Thanks. __________________ MikeM1965

July 30th, 2004, 01:41 PM	#341
Michael Mirochnik New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA, NY Posts: 18	I have solved my problem; this is not the easiest way, but its work for me. I use Vegas foe smaller number of clips 15-20, I do everything what is necessary, composing, color correction etc. Then I render them in transport stream, and combine in MPEG editor, I forgot the name, which came with JVC. This program handle transport files very well. But still maybe buying Aspect HD not a bad solution either. __________________ MikeM1965

July 28th, 2004, 08:46 PM	#333
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Charlie- move the footage and Veg files to the IOMEGA drive and bring it over. I'll hook it up and see if I can't figure something out. Maybe thursday or friday night. Call me and let me know.

July 28th, 2004, 11:17 PM	#334
Bogdan Vaglarov Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 366	Adi, why don't you simply give DVA the avi file without rendering to mpeg in Vegas? Prepare and burn should work fine in DVA and you'll have the mpeg file for future copies. This way you are also flexible to adjust the bitrate. If you give Architect too big mpeg file it might reencode.

July 28th, 2004, 11:30 PM	#335
Mark Paschke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Willamette Valley OR Posts: 90	I will be able to see later this week If I have the same trouble and check back in, I wish i wasnt so busy I would try it tonight. I am not sure I ever used 120 files (are you talking transitions, music, filters and such or just mT2s?) even for a 1 hour + wedding film but I will be sure to keep track when I finish

July 29th, 2004, 01:18 AM	#336
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	edward, you were on the money!!! i checked "elementary stream", sent a sample mpeg-2 to the studio and now scenarist recognizes the file. thanks!!! now, i can check to see if my problem is software based or not. thanks again!

July 29th, 2004, 08:59 AM	#339
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Much more RAM is needed when processing HD, else the system spends all its time paging data into and out of the pagefile. 2 Gigs is the minimum recommended!

July 29th, 2004, 07:07 PM	#340
Mark Paschke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Willamette Valley OR Posts: 90	wowsers, I am in trouble to start with, I am running 1 gig Ram with almost the same CPU as Michael ( with a Abit IC7 Max3 motherboard, 74 gig Raid Rapters, crappy ole GeForce 5200 and Sound Audigy) , with little troubles upto 20 minutes on the timeline now with multiple transitions and even some color correction experimentation. whats the largest RAM you can buy? I guess Im gonna need more when its render time

July 31st, 2004, 01:45 AM	#342
Mark Paschke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Willamette Valley OR Posts: 90	Mark, How do I manually change .mpg to .m2t?

July 31st, 2004, 03:36 PM	#343
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	after you cut does vegas automatically auto-crossfade both clips? it's getting quite annoying. after time i would highlight a section of a clip i want to cut vegas crossfades the end result. how do i turn this off? __________________ bow wow wow

July 31st, 2004, 04:23 PM	#344
Jesse Rosten Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Redding, California Posts: 114	Turn the auto-crossfade on/off by hitting ctrl+shift+X. There is also a button for it - usually at the top - looks kind of like bunny ears (or an "X") peace jes

July 31st, 2004, 05:54 PM	#345
Gustavo Nardelli Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brasília-DF Posts: 28	Need your workflow Could you help me, telling me what workflow do you use in Vegas?