View Full Version : Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)
Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004, 09:57 PM Personally, I wouldn't use that preset. Try this:
Use the standard text generated media. Get on the keyframe at the beginning of the gen media timeline and move the text off the left hand side of the screen. Then move to the end of the gen media timeline and move the text off the right hand side of the screen. This will scroll from left to right without pausing in the middle.
Take a look at the last issue of my newsletter (http://www.jetdv.com/tts) where I talk more about moving text.
Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004, 09:59 PM <<<-- Originally posted by John Hudson : Track Motion! Yes! Thanks Don! -->>>
Track Motion won't work if the text you want to scroll happens to be longer than the width of the screen. The positioning tab on the text Generated Media works great for this purpose without needing Track Motion OR Pan/Crop.
Graham Bernard March 17th, 2004, 10:29 PM Ah, Edward, "When going to other formats, it may very well help to change to Best." . . . would you recommend going BEST if my final, final render is say WMV or mpeg for DVD?
Grazie
Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004, 10:41 PM I think it's just something you'll need to test for any given circumstance. I don't think you could give an answer that would be 100% correct in all circumstances. You'll need to try different variations on your own.
Graham Bernard March 17th, 2004, 10:46 PM Understood . . thought you might say this .. just wanted an "educated" guess or your own real world experience . . nothing more nothing less . . . Chat room?
Grazie
John Hudson March 17th, 2004, 11:27 PM Thanks Edward and tks for the article.
Don Bloom March 18th, 2004, 03:46 AM Ahhhh Edward,
As usual to my rescue ;-)
I forgot about the longer text. Since I almost never do anything that long or scroll across I had forgotten.
3 lashes with an old Avid dongle for me.
Don
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 10:37 AM Is there some secret way to allow Vegas 4.0 to add special effects like machine gun muzzleblast on prop guns or adding a third eye to the forehead of a walking character or a hole on a body part?
Rob Lohman March 18th, 2004, 10:41 AM There isn't a magic button or plugin for such work. It usually
requires seperate plates (footage, like the eye or a muzzle blast)
which can be shot or perhaps rendered (3D program) or painted
(2D paint program) and are then composited into the rest of
the scene.
If you have the footage like a muzzle flash it should be possible
to do it in Vegas. Although such rotoscoping, tracking and
compositing is a tedious job!
Keith Loh March 18th, 2004, 10:45 AM Hugh, I did this with several frames using Photoshop and then compositing using AfterEffects. You should be able to do the same thing with Photoshop and Vegas Video.
You can see it here:
http://www.pyroglyphfilms.com/gallery/clips/shooting_test.mov
I should have made the flashes a bit brighter and added another triangular element over it in retrospect.
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 10:45 AM Rats! What about a program like Pinnacle Commotion? Isn't that what it does? Can I import the effects to that or does Pinnacle not play nice with Vegas? ALSO, editing in Vegas is fabulous and I'll probably never use another program. HOWEVER... like a dunce I failed to purchase Vegas 4.0 with the DVD program so now I wonder if I can edit in Vegas and then open the finished product in Pinnacle Edition 5.0 which does have a DVD authoring program?
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 10:47 AM What does Adobe Photoshop go for?
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 10:48 AM By the way I can't bring your website up to look at your screen shots. Bah!
Sunny Dhinsey March 18th, 2004, 11:34 AM I found that if I render the portions of the VOB file as an .avi file the quality of video is very good. I'm assuming that I'll lose some quality from the original .VOB file, but so far on playback tests, I have seen hardly any deviation from the original source
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 12:05 PM Jean-Philippe: Deinterlacing in Vegas works FABULOUS. I just tested it two days ago with a Sony 1 CCD consumer camcorder and it looks awesome.
1) File>Properties> set to NONE-Progressive scan. Then set DEINTERLACE METHOD to BLEND
2) When you RENDER, go to CUSTOM>and change to NONE-PROGRESSIVE SCAN. It increases render time but it looks great.
Edward Troxel March 18th, 2004, 12:06 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Sunny Dhinsey : I found that if I render the portions of the VOB file as an .avi file the quality of video is very good. I'm assuming that I'll lose some quality from the original .VOB file, but so far on playback tests, I have seen hardly any deviation from the original source -->>>
Where you'll see a bigger difference is if you look at the ORIGINAL AVI file that created the VOB file in the first place and compare it to your new AVI file.
Kim Kinser March 18th, 2004, 12:10 PM you might want to look at a product called alamdv for adding those kind of effects.
It's pretty inepensive and does a reasonably good job. I am by no means proficient at any of this video stuff but I added some effects in a home movie. the actual editing was done in vegas.
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 12:18 PM That was cute as hell! I just might try out that program. What I would like to use it for is to avoid using actual blank rounds and bullet hits for a project I am working on. I really don't like gunplay in my projects but this particular project does call for it.
Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004, 12:21 PM did you now there's a free download to ALAMDV?
Keith Loh March 18th, 2004, 12:28 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Hugh DiMauro : What does Adobe Photoshop go for? -->>>
If you are doing any kind of heavy duty art for video, film or any kind of digital work, you must have Photoshop. It's the starting point for a lot of work.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html
I've seen AlamDV and it's pretty neat. I would use AlamDV as a starting point and then go in with Photoshop to tweak it. The price is good too.
Were you referring to my screenshots? Which page were you trying to view it on? I'll need to go fix it.
By the way, here is a thread on another board that talks about DIY gun effects (you can sign in as guest).
http://forums.delphiforums.com/DVDA/messages?msg=83.8
I was basically asking the same question and researching it.
Here is some gunflashes that I was trying to do for a music video:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/DVDA/messages?msg=384.15
Jean-Philippe Archibald March 18th, 2004, 12:38 PM Thanks Hugh,
I have made some test and this is what I have concluded myself.
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 04:30 PM 1)Tell me if my laptop is really capable to work with Vegas:
Microsoft XP
mobileAMD Athlon XP1800+ (processor)
654 MHZ
480 MB of RAM
40 hard drive
Int. Explorer 6.0
2) So, working on my laptop I will use one monitor (JVC broadcast) But 9'' is big enough?
What size in your experience is minimum?
2) I will buy external hard drive - 60 GB
I will have about 3 hrs raw footage.
Is it big enough?
3) Do you guys know if maybe it's better to buy Direct Capture Hard Drive(30 GB for 600$) I could save capturing time right? Gimme your thoughts about replacing external hard drive by this device.
I am waiting for your reply. Thanks.
Voytek
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 04:33 PM Guys, would you reccomend to buy Vegas on amazon.com?
I've found the best prices there.
Thanks,
Voytek
Mike Moncrief March 18th, 2004, 05:12 PM Hello,
i found and purchased my version on ebay.. If you are carefull and make sure the seller is legit, and that the version is not the acadhemic version of vegas, then you can find very good deals there..
Mike
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 06:31 PM So the price for Vegas DVD on amazon is :
$379.99
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Availability: Item usually ships in 1-2 business days; Ships from CA, United States; Expedited shipping available.
See shipping rates
Comments: Brand New NOT ACADEMIC, NEVER REGISTERD, CAN BE REGISTERD! sealed with RECEIPT for proof of purchase in original packaging with Acid 4.0 and Vision Series Free delivery confirmation same day.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? did YOU SEE BETTER OFFER?
THANKS,
VOYTEK
John Hudson March 18th, 2004, 09:02 PM Voytek
Are you a student or do you know one?
http://store.yahoo.com/studentsoftwarestore/index.html
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 09:10 PM So, I asked the seller if it's true that I will not be able to register academic version with SONY.
He emailed me that there will not be a problem so I bought VEGAS DVD on ebay for 280$. Few minutes ago.
Now I am waiting for my VEGAS!!!
VOYTEK
Chris Kirby March 18th, 2004, 09:12 PM I bought my academic and registered it with no problems.
Federico Dib March 18th, 2004, 09:13 PM 1.) I have less ram than you and 1Gb processor and Vegas handles pretty well, in fact it´s faster than Premier 6.5, and if in relation... I think it works better than Photoshop and all my music apps.
3.) I think 60gb Hard Drive is not enough.. If I were you I´d go for at least the double.. Video can eat space pretty quickly.
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 09:17 PM Yes I got it!
So, I am happy my laptop is good for editing.
As you advice I will buy external hard drive at least 120GB.
What company and model would you reccomend? And where to buy one?
Thanks!
VOYTEK
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 09:21 PM So now when I got laptop and Vegas and soon I will get hard drive ....
1)What speakers do you guys reccomend?
2)Do I really need monitor? Maybe just my laptop screen will do? If I need monitor,which one should I get? Any suggestions?
3)I found on SONY site that to edit with Vegas I got to have a MICROSOFT DIRECTX 8 - what is that?
Thank you very much,
VOYTEK
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 09:22 PM How to register? Make a phone call,right?
Voytek
Edward Troxel March 18th, 2004, 10:11 PM I've done some editing on a laptop. Editing on the screen is fine. However, I usually view the screen on an external monitor. But I HAVE done complete projects on only the onboard monitor. This one has a 60 Gig internal drive but life got MUCH easier easier after adding an external 120 Gig drive.
As for your system specs, it should edit video just fine. I would get more than 60 Gig external if you can afford it.
XP should already have a sufficient version of DirectX. Just try Vegas on it first and then, if it doesn't work, worry about updating things.
Adrian Douglas March 18th, 2004, 10:21 PM Voytek,
I've had Vegas running smoothly on a Dell Inspiron PIII700 with only 256MB.
A monitor will be beneficial but not an absolute necessity. Video looks different on TV to how it looks on a PC monitor so if you don't mind the extra gear then I get a monitor, 13/14" is good but even a smaller 8" will do the job. A TV will do the job to get you started but if you want something better then look at Sony, JVC, or Panasonic broadcast monitors.
DirectX is a multimedia plug-in that is freely available from Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx), actually they are up to DX9 now. You can download (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=141D5F9E-07C1-462A-BAEF-5EAB5C851CF5&displaylang=en) it here.
Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004, 10:24 PM So as soon as I get my Vegas shipped to me I will test it without external monitor and the only stuff I will buy will be external hard drive.
Do you know any online places or maybe stores in NYC I get get one? What company would you guys reccomend?
voytek
Adrian Douglas March 18th, 2004, 11:44 PM B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/?BI=155), one of our sponsors, carry everything you need.
Glenn Chan March 19th, 2004, 12:16 AM 1)What speakers do you guys reccomend?
Most computer speakers won't be much good since they aren't very accurate. Some of them have resonant frequencies, have extreme bass+highs to make music sound better, or lack bass+highs.
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=227171
and
http://www.digitalprosound.com/2002/10_oct/reviews/monitor_shootout.htm
have some budget monitor recommendations. The two sources also happen to contradict each other. You might want to move this to the audio forum on dvinfo.net and see what people suggest. It gets even more complicated: you will need an amp to drive your speakers (more $$$). And also a reasonable sound card (can be a PCI sound card like the M-Audio Revolution or a USB one). Not only that, you will very likely want to get a decent room to mix in. Jay Rose's books (see dplay.com) have information on the subject, as does Auralex (http://www.acoustics101.com/). They contradict each other a little.
Or you could just rent a good studio.
2)Do I really need monitor? Maybe just my laptop screen will do? If I need monitor,which one should I get? Any suggestions?
You should probably search old threads on NTSC monitors. They're expensive and let you accurately see what colors your video are. If you're on a budget then getting one may not be worth it.
A step down would be an industrial monitor, and a step further down would be:
a commodore monitor (they have S-video input once you get the right adapter)
TV with S-video input and/or manual controls for adjusting picture
just any TV
Glen Elliott March 19th, 2004, 02:32 PM Ed I noticed your post on the VU forums about shooting with your XL-1 in 4-channel mode. I just invested in a new camera (PD-170) and a wireless system (UWP-C1). I believe the PD-170 has a similar ability to the XL-1's 4-channel mode...the audio is switchable between 32khz and 48khz. With 32 I think it can record two separate streams (in turn 4 channels).
How, exactly, does Vegas handle footage shot in 32khz (4-channel) and are there any specific changes I have to make to the capture preferences before attempting to do so?
Also, doesn't it lower the overall sound quality to compress to allow a second stream? To me- redunancy may be a better choice especially when capturing monumental 1-chance shots like the vows. Thanks in advance!
Jean-Philippe Archibald March 19th, 2004, 02:54 PM Hi Glen,
As far as I know, Vegas doesn't support 4 channels capture (could be a nice added feature for the upcoming version 5).
I personnaly use Scenalyzer Live to capture footages with 4 audio channels. Scenalyzer is an inexpensive capturing program that put the second stereo stream into a wave file while capturing video and stream 1 in an avi file.
You can then import your clips in vegas for editing.
Edward Troxel March 19th, 2004, 03:19 PM I use Scenalyzer Live to capture all of my 4 channel stuff. I use Vegas Capture to capture the the other tapes. Vegas cannot see the secondary audio tracks.
If Scenalyzer Live would accept a manual batch capture list, I could use it full time.
If VidCap would capture stereo 2, I could use it full time.
Kind of a catch-22 situation.
Glen Elliott March 19th, 2004, 03:38 PM Well here's hoping it's added in 5!
Jason Casey March 19th, 2004, 03:58 PM You might want to look here before you buy!
http://www.videoguys.com/vegasvideo.html
Edward Troxel March 19th, 2004, 04:01 PM Videoguys definitely has some good deals going on right not. Also, follow the links. Anyone purchasing a box version of Vegas right now can get a $50 rebate.
Allan Phan March 19th, 2004, 08:25 PM Hi
I just purchased a Samson UHF Micro 32 Wireless Mic to work with MA200 and my XL1s. It sound great but I have one small problem and that is when I plug the wireless mic to the "Left" Audio1, the sound play on left speaker when I play it back and if I plug the mic to the "Right" Audio1 it will sound on the right speaker when play back. Is there a way that I can make it sounds on both speaker?
Thanks for your help.
AP
Sorry, just realize that I posted in the wrong section
Voytek Stitko March 19th, 2004, 08:35 PM I bought Vegas DVD yesterday and now I am looking for an external hard drive.
I checked MAXTOR and WESTERN DIGITAL. I will edit on my laptop and will need probably 120GB.
My question is: should I buy USB or Fire Wire disk? I just do not know what is the difference. Or maybe having laptop connected with my camera I can only get one of those. But which one: USB or the one which can be connected via USB and Fire Wire?
Thank you for explanation.
Voytek
Keith Loh March 19th, 2004, 08:45 PM USB2. Though, you can get some drives that are USB2 and Firewire.
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THANKS,
VOYTEK
Edward Troxel March 19th, 2004, 10:24 PM The first thing I do is plug a "Y" into the plug in which the mic is connected and record the signal on both tracks of the stereo channel on the MiniDV tape.
Since you've already taped, right-click the audio track, choose Channels, then pick left only, right only, or combine as appropriate.
Philippe Gosselin March 20th, 2004, 01:06 AM Hi all,
i got some editing to do with footage that was shot in 16:9. I want the final product to be in 4:3.
Any tips before or when capturing it or anything in particular that i should know , iM new to the 16:9 format.
Thx a bunch in advance
Phil
Peter Jefferson March 20th, 2004, 03:02 AM or a more efficient way might be to let it run on left...
then run the onboard mic on ch2...(right)
during edit, u cna select which cannel to switch from as ed has explained..
on top of that, if anythign happens to your wireless, youll have the shotgun recording to work with... its a failsafe method used by many, and i for one wouldnt work any other way :)
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