Oopps Sorry Ed I posted a rely for you as a new post instead of right here. Here it is again:

No I just use the network to bring the main media files into Vegas on the older computer for editing purposes. It seems to be fine for editing on the Celeron 366. I run Vegas 4 on both machines. All the media files are stored on the larger computer then I import them from that computer do the editing and save the project on the faster computer. Then when I am done I go and open the saved file on the faster machine and then proceed to render it right there and then once rendered I comense to Print To DV Tape. I am not actually sure if I am getting the problems during the render process or the print to tape process. But those two stages are done on the faster machine. I suppose either way if something on that faster machine is causing the trouble I will have to isolated the trouble. I will check the items you mentioned. I am going to leave both machines idle for a spell and try and pinpoint which one is trying to access the modem unintentionaly. Maybe the trouble could be with that..

Learning more each minute.

I did a complete uninstall of Vegas and also Architect, then installed the .NET framework, then reinstalled Vegas and Architect, but it still didn't work. I'm not sure what to do now.

I would say that you are getting the problem during the PTT (NOT the render). It sounds like the communications over the over the firewire port is being interrupted periodically (which explains both the blue video sections and lack of sound in the same sections).

As I said before, first eliminate any obvious things that may be stealing CPU cycles. Make sure the drive is defragged. By chance, do you have a VIA chipset? If yes, try updating the drivers and/or testing a different firewire card. Turn OFF networking during the PTT process.

I've never heard of that happening. Your next step will have to be contacting Tech Support. Worst cases I've heard of to this point has been solved by an uninstall/reinstall.

1) do not try to PTT from TL with project properties set for 23.97 ...

2) make sure ALL media for project is on the computer you are using to PTT ..

check the drive space where you store vegas temp , pre render, & audio temp folders ..

are you rendering the project as 24p and adding pull down ?

"There is one of these two computers that is trying to dial my internet connection with out me doing anything but I have not found which PC or app is trying to dial up. Possibly this could be the trouble.":

track this down .. could be a app checking for a update , or could be ??

by any chance are you using a "crack code" version of XP or win2K ?? or Vegas ?

I purchase some background animation online to make an opening for my wedding video. The animation has a wedding album that start flying from top down then it open up revealing a blank green screen. I know I suppose to some how take that green away and replace it with my own clip but I don't know how.

In Vegas 4, I put the animation background on track1, then my clip on track 2 but don't know what else to do to make the two combine so that when the album open up it shows my own clip.

Can some one kindly help me on this?
Thanks in advance
AP

Add the Chroma Key effect to the clip, pick that green color as the color to be keyed, and the green should disappear. You may have to resize or rotate the clip on track 2 to fit properly in the green area.

Edward, for your final project that is done this way, do you combine the rendered clips, or do you copy/paste the events from each "sub-project" into the master project and render it?

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : One thing I frequently do is work on sections in different projects, render each section separately, and then compile a final project consisting of those sections. -->>>

Let's say you have a simple, 1 segment project, with a title section.

First do the title section with all of the effects and layers etc. . . render that out to DVAVI and save it. Then start a new segment with your main body, fades, transitions etc. . . render that to DVAVI and save it.

Then take the two, already rendered to DVAVI, clips and put them together in the order that you want. You get them into your final project with the media tab, find the avi file and import them just like you would a photo or video clip, or music. Throw them on the timeline like you want them and cook.

You can do this with as many segments as you want. My current project has a title, 3 main body segments, closing credits. I will have a total of 5 AVI segments to put together. It renders out to DVD very quickly this way.

There is no need for all of the copying and pasting.

No, I have the full version of both Win XP Home, and Vegas 4.0. The only thing that I can think is maybe since I have my opperating system on the C drive and Vegas on another drive maybe it isn't finding it.

Oh well, I guess I will have to break down and contact Vegas Support. I've never called them before, so maybe it won't cost me anything the first time.

Thanks for all of the help.

Hi Harry,

This looks like a good approach for, as you say, a simple project. Mine tend to get complex with 5.1 audio tracks and some complex transitions between the segments. However, I grow weary of having to regenerate the entire project to fix one glitch in one segment. Here is what I am thinking of trying for my next project. I would appreciate your thoughts on this:

1. Create all segments in one project, but ensure each segment is on its own set of tracks.
2. Then, I would render each segment separately to it's own AVI and WAVs.
3. Next, I would place the rendered AVIs and WAVs on their own tracks within the same project, adding transitions as needed.
4. Finally I would turn off all tracks except the tracks containing the rendered content, and render to MPG.

The advantage I see to this is everything is neatly packaged in a single project, yet I can rerender individual segments, and then quickly create a new MPG. The disadvantage: according to a recent dialog in the Sony forums, rendering to AVI first rather than directly from the timeline to MPG causes some quality loss.

Your thoughts?

<<<-- Originally posted by Harry Settle : Let's say you have a simple, 1 segment project, with a title section.

First do the title section with all of the effects and layers etc. . . render that out to DVAVI and save it. Then start a new segment with your main body, fades, transitions etc. . . render that to DVAVI and save it.

Then take the two, already rendered to DVAVI, clips and put them together in the order that you want. You get them into your final project with the media tab, find the avi file and import them just like you would a photo or video clip, or music. Throw them on the timeline like you want them and cook.

You can do this with as many segments as you want. My current project has a title, 3 main body segments, closing credits. I will have a total of 5 AVI segments to put together. It renders out to DVD very quickly this way.

There is no need for all of the copying and pasting. -->>>

<<<-- Originally posted by Jay Argo : No, I have the full version of both Win XP Home, and Vegas 4.0. The only thing that I can think is maybe since I have my opperating system on the C drive and Vegas on another drive maybe it isn't finding it. -->>>

Installed on different drives should NOT be a problem. Is there in entry in the Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs for "Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1"? I think you're definitely going to have to talk to Tech Support about this one.

<<<-- Originally posted by Jerry Norman : Edward, for your final project that is done this way, do you combine the rendered clips, or do you copy/paste the events from each "sub-project" into the master project and render it? -->>>

I start a new project and add all of the RENDERED clips. No point in re-rendering everything. Plus, copy - paste can be troublesome when the number of tracks varies between projects. As long as you don't affect the clips in the new project, no rendering is required!

Vince again ..I got the capture to work, cut some stuff together and did some text at the start and the end. In the editing mode when I look at it in preview it looks ok. After render and watching it in the windows media player I see little red X.s and hear audio beeps about every 5 seconds. The red X,s come up in the cuts between seines could this be a function of the 4.0 demo software so you can not use it on the cheep. I know it will not play a project over 2 min. due to demo mode thanks

Vince

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Hi Guys.

It's coming together, and I'm getting my head around the program. Next Step: Scripts.

My Win XP Pro computer isn't connected ever to the internet. I download using a Win 98se computer, and transfer any required files to the XP PC via removable hard drive.

So:

How do I update the .NET Framework, to enable me to run scripts, when the win95 PC refuses to look for XP updates?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Andy

Yo Vince:

Yep, that's the demo version causing the 'X'.

How annoying is it? :)

I've ordered my Vegas, just waiting for the delivery.

Waiting, Waiting.

Edward:

Big thanks to you.

Thanks ..God bless ya Down Under

Yep. Definitely a symptom of demo mode. Get everything registered and all should be fine.

Here's how I did it:

1) download the 20 meg standalone .NET Framework install file from Microsoft.

2) Burn it to a CD

3) Install on any machine I need.

You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time.

use dudes are da best

Vince

I've done this a lot of times without any problems indeed, do
check out Edwards newsletter!

If you need to resize I would rather go with 720x800 then 655x480.
In that case Vegas has more resolution to work with to do the
0.9 pixel aspect ratio conversion.

Most VCD's I've seen are indeed "start directly", Law.

There are basically a couple of ways. Most camera's support black
& white shooting as well (usually through color saturation). Then
you could do it in multiple ways in post.

Sometimes I like to not fully dial out the color, but almost. So it
feels black and white, but it's just borderline.

I suggest you play with the filters that are there in Vegas. It can
be done with the special B&W filter, color curvers, saturation
control etc.

And here's a link to the download on Microsoft (23MB):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

Isn't it on the Vegas CD?

Are you perhaps running an older version of the .NET framework?
Make sure you have 1.1 to be safe. Which drive shouldn't matter
indeed. But you can always uninstall Vegas and then install it
to the C drive to see if that fixes it. Sometimes a weird thing like
that might be in the way even though it shouldn't.

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Isn't it on the Vegas CD? -->>>

Don't know - Never got a CD (electronic purchase)

I know Gary included it on the Excalibur and Neon CDs.

<<<-- Originally posted by Jamison Olivieri : You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time. -->>>


You have to look at it a different way. I don't import them into a final project UNTIL they are ALL totally complete and ready to go. Yes, I build in sections. But if ANY section is not finalized, I don't build the final. Now I *may* rough a final up if I need a preview but the final is exactly that - the very LAST step.

Besides, it only takes a few seconds to built the final. Just double-click on each of the rendered files in order (I usually have 4). If any are wrong, go back and fix it and rebuild the final from scratch. Doesn't take that long to add 4 clips to the timeline.

brilliant tools, bythe sound of it. but apparently there are some crashes and stability issues..

I think ill wait..

Thanks Guys.

I'll wait to see if it's on the Vegas CD before I try downloading it.

Still waiting for the postman.

Waiting, Waiting......

Tried closeing down everything I can thing of through msconfig and still does the same thing, so I will keep trying to eliminate more and more stuff until I get it clean or the thing won't boot.
I will even re render the whole thing just to make sure it is not in the render process.

The pictures are portrait stlye pictures and do not fill the entire video frame, for loss of better explaination, they have a black fill on both sides to fill the frame. When the transition is set it pulls the picture along with the surrounding black area. I only want the picture to transition without the black fill in area. I have tried to set a transparent background to the picture but it ignores it and still shows the black edges.

I am missing something? I can post a link to an example of what is happening if it would help.

Thanks,

Jon

If I'm understanding you correctly it might be better to add a
track for just the pictures that is of the exact same resolution as
your pictures. Do all your transitions on that. Then put a normal
resolution track below your picture thread, that should add the
black "borders" and thus not have the transitions. I haven't
tried this out, but it sounds like it might work in your case.

Which transition in particular are you wanting to use? Dissolves look great. However, transitions will deal with the video frame. In your case, the video frame is black on the left and right and will, therefore, be part of the transition. Maybe if we can narrow down exactly what you're wanting....

PS... This works fine if I put one picture on a video track and the other on the other video track, then it recognizes the transparent background.

I will post a link a sample. I am trying the spiral transition.

Thanks,

Jon

http://inside.championwindow.com/fablog/jon/problemwithtransition.zip

You will see the video frame black area covers up the bottom picture.

Thanks,

Jon

I have just confirmed the behavior and don't have an immediate solution (other than, as you said, use two tracks).

It would be nice if you could do it on the same track, the transitions seem to work better.

Thanks again.

Jon

Pete- don't be scrared. It won't bite you.

I found that with Satish's tools often it is something dumb that cause crashes etc. For instance, you have turn down your preview memory to 0 in order for these tools to work. Stuff like that usually causes the problems.

Finally, it's here!

Vegas 4.0 and DVDA 1.0 installed, and working!

I've already burnt a dvd, arelatively quick project, consisting of 2 sets of a band playing live, and adding audio recorded on the Mini disc player (The reason I got the program in the first place, to sinc audio and video!)

The question I have today is:

Should I render the titles and audio and video for each set as an .AVI file, and let DVDA render the .AVI files to MPEG-2 when burning the DVD, or am I better off rendering in Vegas to MPEG-2, then using the MPEGs in DVDA?

I'm wondering on two counts.

1) Quality

and 2) Time.

All help, as usual, very much appreciated.

Thanks, Andy

Hi Vince:

I didn't get any beeps, the audio dropped out every 5 seconds or so for 1/2 a second.

BTW got my Vegas proper yesterday, installed, and now I'm off and running.

Love this program.

Andy

Congratulations!!!


It really doesn't matter whether you give DVDA an AVI file or render to MPEG in Vegas. Each method has it's own advantage. If you render to MPEG in Vegas:
1) You only have to render the MPEG file ONCE no matter how many times you build the DVD
2) You have more control over the MPEG settings

If you give DVDA an AVI file:
1) Simpler method of setting the file size to "fit"

Thanks Andy happy cutting

will stay in touch


Best
Vince

If I build the static 35mm adapter for my GL2, what steps in Vegas are required to get the image upright and reversed correctly?

Thanks,

Joseph

Yeah, Rob, too bad.

Many times when we are just playing around, could really burn a CD instead of a more expensive DVD blank.

Thanks for the reply Edward.

Sets 3 and 4 of the band I rendered to MPEG, and imported into DVDA.

I then deleted the captured AVI files (approx. 40 mins each)

I then imported the MPEGs into DVDA and guess what? I was about 15% over the 4.7 gigs.

Am I correct in assuming if I'd brought in AVI files, I'd be able to change the bit rate to 'squash' the info down enough to fit? The bit rate wouldn't change, I'm thinking it was because they were mpegs.

If So then I've learnt:

1/. Don't delete the source AVIs until I'm POSITIVE I've finished with them.

2/. If I think I might be near the 4.7 gig limit, let DVDA render.

Thnaks again for the replies Edward.

Cheers,

Andy