I was having a similar problem with Vegas Movie Studio, but also with HDV Split. No problem with the Premiere Pro capture. I upgraded to latest HD Split version (0.75, I think) and that all disappeared. Haven't really tried to resolve problem in Vegas capture as the others are working.

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I have a new notebook and DV Rack that I will be capturing video and audio with my one Sony VX2100. However, I have a very old Sony notebook that only has 10 gigs of storage space but was the first Sony notebook to give a fire wire port. I would like to capture only the audio (for backup and possable drop outs on the tape capture) from the other camera as I have like 7 2 hour concerts to film and would never be able to capture the video with that and not sure if that 350 MHZ ancient notebook would be able to keep up with the video as slow as it is. I do know that Adobe Premiere has an option to capture audio only but can only find the option to NOT capture audio for Sony Vegas 5.0. Is there an option in Sony Vegas to capture only the audio an to ignore the video. I can not use Adobe Premiere 1.5 because it will only install on Windows XP and the only systems I can install on that old Sony notebook is Windows 98 which it came with and Windows 2000 unless I bought yet another addition of Windows XP. I already have 4 Window XP's running on 4 different computers and do not want to buy another one under any circumstance.

I do have Sound Forge 7.0 proffessional but did not find an option in it to capure audio using a firewire connection connected to a camera.

You can do audio only straight to the timeline using the analog inputs.

If you want to capture audio only via firewire, you might want to take a look at Scenalyzer Live.

I was just coming back to add that when I saw your post. I can not use any of the analog connections from my cameras as they are connected to Sound Devices Mix pres. I have to use the camera's firewire connection to capture the audio.

Adobe does capture audio only just fine if you are running Windows XP via firewire. I am not sure why this option is not in Sony Vegas but it should be.

It *may* not be because Vegas, by itself, is a multi-track recorder. It's MUCH more powerful than capturing firewire. However, that doesn't help in your situation.

Definitely take a look at Scenalyzer Live. It's very inexpensive, can capture audio only, and has many other interesting features.

I'm trying to connect an Optura 20 to my PC and use Vegas 6 to capture. When I connect the camera via firewire, Windows make the *bing* recognize noise, but when the window asking what I want to do with the device comes up, there are no options in the window. Also, when I go to Vegas to capture, it says there is no device connected. I don't know what the issue is. I do not believe that it is the cable, since it connects to Windows. I need some help QUICKLY, time is short. Thanks.

I'll take a stab at this....

1) which version works? 5.0? ...go with the latest 6.0d

2) can hdv be edited natively in vegas with success? (I don't do a lot of fx)
...yes but slowly. Use the cineform intermediate and you should be able to work just fine.
3) which intermediary codecs work in vegas? What's the advantage to an intermediary codec? ...some like using intermediates from Gearshift etc. I use the cineform that comes with Vegas and so far so good....

4) why do they call it vegas anyway? ....hmmm what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas....

I'm sure others can weight in on this...

Not trying to change the intent of this thread but I didn't think Vegas5 would install to windows 98 either.

I haven't tried it yet but I do have a licensed copy of Windows 2000 proffessional if it doesn't.

Hi,

I do not want to rain on your parade BUT you need to have a look at this thread which I started:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64559

Make sure that you read it in its entirety - especially the last one or two pages. I make this statement because the thread sort of 'changed direction' at some point but the main issue is the fact that synchronizing audio and video captured from two different sources (even two different cameras) over a long period i.e. in your case 2 hours (like mine) is problematic and I still have not found an automated working solution.

Vegas 5 will capture audio only - as many simultaneous audio tracks as you want!

I'm not sure if it will install and work on Windows '98 (the system requirements for Vegas 5 was - at least - Windows 2000). However - hazarding a guess - I would imagine that as long as you are able to install the required Microsoft software and drivers e.g. DirectX 9.0c and Microsoft .NET Framework it should work (but do not hold me to this). The best thing to do is just try to install it - if it does not work properly - uninstall it - the uninstall application works perfectly and does not leave 'stuff' hanging around after uninstallation. The software is exremely well written!

Regards,

Dale.

I have a new notebook and DV Rack that I will be capturing video and audio with my one Sony VX2100. However, I have a very old Sony notebook that only has 10 gigs of storage space but was the first Sony notebook to give a fire wire port. I would like to capture only the audio (for backup and possable drop outs on the tape capture) from the other camera as I have like 7 2 hour concerts to film and would never be able to capture the video with that and not sure if that 350 MHZ ancient notebook would be able to keep up with the video as slow as it is. I do know that Adobe Premiere has an option to capture audio only but can only find the option to NOT capture audio for Sony Vegas 5.0. Is there an option in Sony Vegas to capture only the audio an to ignore the video. I can not use Adobe Premiere 1.5 because it will only install on Windows XP and the only systems I can install on that old Sony notebook is Windows 98 which it came with and Windows 2000 unless I bought yet another addition of Windows XP. I already have 4 Window XP's running on 4 different computers and do not want to buy another one under any circumstance.

I do have Sound Forge 7.0 proffessional but did not find an option in it to capure audio using a firewire connection connected to a camera.

set your soudncard to record "what you hear" most have this feature and will record anytign that is fed throuh the mixer...

from here open up vidcap and Forge
Prepare new file @ 48khz stereo, set forge to record via remote (the remote panel will pop up).. and youll see Vidcap under it..
hit record on Forge remote.. it will blink blnk blink.. lol
now hit play on Vidcap.. (not record)
sit back and wait til capture is compete..

voila.. digital audio capture with no video.. If u go analogue, the SN ratio could be pretty ugly...

Oh, and this only works with full duplex soundcards though (ie record and playback at once)

good luck

When adjusting the audio with FX using nodes it all is great, however, if I move the time line the nodes do not move. There must be a way or I am doing something wrong. HELP

Is "Lock Envelopes to Events" turned on?

yeah same here too. Since HDV spilt is workin fine I'll stick with that. I was considering connect HD but now, I guess I will put it on hold for the moment.

Probably not. I will check that..
Thanks

I don't know why they call it Vegas, but it did start as an audio only editor. I think it was first developed by Sony, not like the other multimedia tools Sony purchased when they snagged Sonic Foundry. And their sound editor was called "Acid." So, go figure.

Sony didn't get their hands on it until they acquired Sonic Foundry.

When I capture a clip and drop it in the time line will there be two audio tracks?? One for each mic used on the XLR?? Just wondering how the work flow will be in Vegas, I have yet to venture the audio portion of video.

Only if you recorded two tracks - either two individual mic'd sources or one stereo source.

Jeff

Hello all,

I have footage that I shot at 24p and 29.97i that I want to use in the same timeline. I was wondering what is the best way to do this?

I'm using Vegas 6.0d. The 24p footage is from the XL2 and some (a big chunk of important footage) is 60i. I accidently forgot to switch back to 24p one day when filming at work so I shot A LOT of important footage at 60i (I can't believe I didn't notice the difference earlier!)

The other half of the 29.97i footage is from a JVC 1ccd mini-DV camcorder (my capture cam). I didn't shoot anything important with this cam, but I thought I'd shoot some stuff while my XL2 is sitting on a tripod filming so If I can get the footage to work with the 24p footage would be great.

Now, should I run my 29.97 footage through avisynth and create a frameserver and make my interlaced footage progressive through avisynth? That's the only solution I can think of right now and it seems like a good choice (I've done this before, but with animation and it worked great), but I'm not sure if this will work good with video.

The two options I see with avisynth is using these codes:

ChangeFPS or ConvertFPS

I don't want to AssumeFPS because I want to truly convert the footage and not interpret the footage and have it look slightly slow motion.

So, what are some of your guys' suggestions? Thanks in advance!

-R&R Entertainment

What is your 24p footage? 24p or 24p advanced?

What do you want your end result to be? Do you want the 60i footage to look like 60i or 24p?

Mixing 24p (not advanced) on a 60i (29.97) timeline is no problem; if it's 24p advanced, you probably want to bring it into a 24p timeline and then export as 24p DV with 2:3 (not 2:3:3:2) pulldown and then use that in your 60i timeline.

That's if you want the 60i footage to look like 60i. The 24p will still look like 24p.

If you want it all to look like 24p, edit it all on a 24p timeline and then render as 24p. Vegas 6 is great about converting 60i to 24p with a minimum of fuss.

Just remember, though, that fast camera movement looks fine in 60i, but when converted to 24p, it's just like having shot in 24p, so fast camera movement may produce a strobe you don't see in 60i.

I had a list of button presets at one time for vegas but lost them. I wanted to reassign some buttons to go with UltimateS. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Jeff

There's a preset file in the Vegas install folder.

David,

My footage is 24p not, 24pA

I'd like the 60i footage to look like 24p, but it's not exactly main priority. I just want compatabilty on the timeline really. I ran a test dumping my 60i footage on my 24p timeline and rendered and it looked pretty good. Fortunate for me, the footage I have has NO movement. It's all static, so that makes things MUCH easier.

Thanks for the help David. The more I use Vegas the more I love it. Thanks again!

-Roger

Ultimate S2 comes with a prefs file for the Shuttle Pro 1 & 2. It’s in the Ultimate S2 directory (C:\Program Files\VASST\Ultimate S2). There is also a VegasKeyMap.ini file in that directory that you must load into Vegas so the mapping works properly. You do this in Options > Preferences > Keyboard > Import. As Edward pointed out Vegas has it’s own preferences in its directory. There is also a Sony Vegas 6 -- ShuttlePRO v2.mht file that will show you what the shuttle keys are mapped to.

~jr

Which version of Vegas are you using? If you are using Vegas 6, you must use the External Video Capture option. The internal one is for HDV and the external is for DV. I assume the Optura 20 is DV (which begs the question, why are you asking this in the HDV forum?)

~jr

will there be two audio tracks?? One for each mic used on the XLR??No there will be one stereo track from your camera. If you have recorded two mono mics on that stereo track you can split them out very easily in Vegas. Just duplicate the audio event on another track, then highlight one track's events and right-click and select Channels > Left Only. Then do the same on the other track's events but select Channels > Right Only. You will now have two mono representations of your original stereo track to process and mix independently on separate tracks.

~jr

And their sound editor was called "Acid." So, go figure.Actually the sound editor is called Sound Forge. ACID is a looped based music composition tool. It does not edit sound, it composes music. There used to be Vegas Pro which was audio only, then Vegas Audio and Vegas Video, and finally just Vegas. All of these tools came from the Sonic Foundry acquisition as David pointed out.

~jr

Only if you recorded two tracks - either two individual mic'd sources or one stereo source.

Jeff


Sorry John, You're right about the stereo track. Your explanation is what I meant.

Jeff

Ah, yes. That's right. Acid is the composition application. Well, weird nomenclature just the same.

Hey John, I suggest you to Wikipedia and update their article on Vegas. It doesn't give a good history on the application, or make the lineage clear. It would be pretty helpful, if you have ever had the urge to immortalize yourself on the Wiki :-)

DJ

I've been having problems recently with HDV Split, both 0.7 and 0.75. It captures video, but with lots of blocky artifacts very frequently throughout the video displaying in the preview screen, but afterwards the .m2t file only shows a few of those artifacted parts. For example, there will be one artifacted moment on the preview window every 10 seconds of video capturing, but there will only be one artifacted moment every 10 minutes of video (if that - often only 1 or 2 hours of video).

In any case, artifacted at all doesn't seem right to me. There does not appear to be artifacting when I play it on my camera, but the captured file shows it. Why and how do I fix it?

Second, bigger problem with HDV Split. It has suddenly just had some weird error and says it can't capture anymore and it has to shut down. I tried this with two different computers, same problem. I tried capturing to different drives, same problem. But if I kept rewinding the tape and trying to capture again, eventually I was able to capture the footage correctly.

But what is this glitch that keeps crashing HDV Split? I run no other apps or do anything with teh computer when capturing.

I've noticed I can't prerender 24p at a 720p resolution. The only options are 720p at 30p or 720p at 25p? Does anyone have any info on this?

Sure you can.

Just click the "Custom . . . " button in the prerender dialogue, then go to the "Video" tap. Choose "(custom frame size)" in the "Frame size" drop-down. Then, fill in width 1280 and height 720.

dooote!...

I must be going mad! I just realized I can no longer adjust the keyframes in my generated media. The controller is still present in the Pan/Crop dialog.

I am using using version 6.0d.

But make sure the PAR is 1.000.

What do you mean, you can no longer adjust it?

No, I mean the controller has disappeared outright. I do not see it at the bottom of the event generator dialog.

Move your mouse slowly to the bottom of the dialog box. As soon as it turns into an up/down arrow, click and drag upwards. The keyframe area is resizable. You've apparently resized it to nothing.

Ed: 1, Vegas: 0.

Ed's got a couple more in the win column than just 1 . . . :)

Everyone,

I just want to make sure I'm doing this right since my Mainconcept renders in Vegas were coming out seemingly worse than my Canopus renders:

I go into 'file' then 'properities' and then set the 'Full Rendering Resolution Quality' to 'BEST'. (The default had been set to 'good')

I just want to make sure this setting affects the actual render from Mainconcept within Vegas out to a DVDA file and that it is the best possible quality.

thanks

One thing to do is make sure you DO NOT pick the "default" preset. Instead, using one of the DVD Architect presets is recommended.

I totally agree Edward - the default is for the birds.

However, I posted this because when I pick the DVDA template (DVDA video stream) I noticed in file>properties the setting is set to "good" instead of "best".

I want to make sure this affects the DVDA template before I start another 4 hour render, because my DVDA video stream renders were not looking that great.

You might want to review this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52500

Generally speaking: Good is fine.

Excellent and in depth resource - thanks Edward.

I've rendered several small files this afternoon and still find Canopus seems to be much better than Mainconcept when I render out through Frameserver - even on Best setting through Vegas. I don't quite know why - most everyone seems to think Mainconcept works excellently.

My renders just look too fuzzy with Mainconcept.

I just did a test render on my current project. I shot it pretty dark on purpose but after rendering to mpg2 it is much darker than original or deisreable. Is there a way around this besides playing around with the brightness/gain/contrast on each event? I've never really noticed this too much before but also haven't rendered a really dark scene before.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

...playing around with the brightness/gain/contrast on each event?

I know some people prefer levels or color corrector filters, but I use brightness/contrast.

Any of these can be applied to the event, track, or project.

I'd like to create the sound of a voice I recorded sound like it was being heard over an intercom. I have Vegas 6 and Sound Forge 6. Anyone know of a good way to make this effect?

Also, to make an audio track sound more distant (for example an explosion that is initially heard outside and the tail part heard from inside a room). Is there a good trick for this other than just lower the audio volume?