yeah i knew that.

as far as a i know the dvx-100(a) is one of the very few that does 24p and the others are very high end cameras.

matthew

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This is from ADS website, makers of the pyro cards:

Headlines
ADS Tech announces Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 support for entire PYRO DV product line.
Upgrade details coming soon.

This Good, Good News

Will try it. Thanks.

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Did I go over board?

Pinnacle have stopped producing drivers for Premiere. The last version that will work with the drivers is P6.5. It will only work with pinnacles own NLE range Liquid Purple.

However you can still install PP on your system and use the card as a standard firewire card. You will however not get any of Pinnacles effects, and you will not be able to use the breakout box. I would suggest that if you want a RT capture board then Matrox are currently doing a great offer where you can trade in your DV500 card and get an RTX 100 at a slight discount. Your system will need to be quite powerful though.

Hope this helps,

So that would be why!!! That makes sense, I guess it would be using the 1.0 drivers currently which is why it is doing wired things...

I saw that the sony dvd101 is not a supported camera for premire pro on the adobe web site. This camera uses DVD and records in mpeg2 format, or whatever is the norm for dvds. Does this mean that video taken with this camera cannot be taken into premire to be edited etc.

Also, if there is soem plug-in to support it, would my video look really crappy since DV is 17Gb per hour, and theis is 3 gb per hour?

Hi there.

I guess the answer depends upon whether your audience will be watching in wide screen? If a person doesn’t have a wide screen TV would he/she be happy with your widescreen DVD?

Internet is another matter. My last film combines widescreen and regular 4x3 footage. 4x3 inside of 16x9 leaves enough space for moving titles on both sides. Please visit my WEB site if you care to watch an example: http://www.videoclassified.com/. An icon on the front page with a lady in a red dress will show a wide screen movie.

i had a premiere pro project with a few files that i burned onto a dvd rom to move to a new computer. I was surpsied when premiere found all the files itself (they were all in one folder this time, but were not when i took the files off the computer for burning onto dvd). must be a new feature.

DVD101 records in mpeg2 (DVD format). I know of no software that can edit mpeg2.

The review I read said video quality is on par with other 1-ccd cameras.

Richard:

Sorry for taking a while to get back... The day job and all of that.


Have you removed the DV500 and the Pinnacle software? If not, try that - at least uninstall the software and just ignore XP when it gets all excited that it found something new....

Run it for a while.

If the problem goes away (and yes, these intermittent problems are really annoying), then it's something in the Pinnacle system. You could then pop over to the Pinnacle forum (http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_forums.asp?WebboardID=4&SectionID=12) to see if they can help.

If it doesn't go away - then you've got a Problem with PP. I've not had much luck with Adobe tech support, although I think they have a sponsored forum, someone there might be able to help.

Another tactic would be to see if you get a specific error on your BSOD. If so, copy it down and run a google search with the error terms and perhaps add "Athalon" and "Windows XP" or any other keyword that you can think of.

It's likely someone else has dealt with this before. I often get at least hints on how to fix problems that way.

Also, if you haven't tried it - take your PP defaults away from the Pinnacle options (use generic DV). This can also help isolate things and it's faster than pulling the board and uninstalling the software.

Good luck!

Thanks for your help and suggestions.

I shall try the options you have suggested.

My life has been full of intermittent and very annoying problems with DV500 and Premier.

Welcome to the club.... If and when I upgrade this machine, I'm going to move to another NLE. I'm in general pretty annoyed with Adobe. Their support is abysmal. There policies for licensing worse. I really don't want to be stuck with XP if I don't have to - I prefer Win2K and most likely, the next versions Premiere and Photoshop will only run on Longhorn (assuming, of course, they actually ship it in our lifetimes). If Photoshop wasn't the industry standard for stills, I wouldn't use it. Since Premiere has some really strong competition in the video world, I will avail myself of it. After I finish paying off the new Nikon D100.

Sigh.

Let me know if you need additional wild goose chases.

Maybe this is bunk, but if it crashes so hard it doesn't even give you a BSOD, I'd lean toward believing it is a fundamental hardware problem. On XP, check the system log in the Administrative Tools; just maybe there will be a clue there as to what's making it unhappy...if not, it probably isn't software. I do agree that you ought to remove all extra hardware and its software (SB, Pinnacle, etc) to track down the culprit.

Failing that, here's just a shot in the dark ... but since you have a new system it may be worth a try. My ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard is P4 hardware, but I suspect the MB manufacturers have similar circuitry in the "guts" of all of their boards.

Anyway, I found that using automatic BIOS settings for memory timings caused incessant, random BSOD's. I manually entered the correct timings per the memory manufacturer's specs (in this case Corsair TwinX), and the system became rock stable. I noticed also on Corsair's web site that the memory timings for their DDR sticks were different for AMD and Intel processors. I suspect that the ASUS board's automatic memory timing function either had overly aggressive memory timings programmed in or misread the memory's timing capabilities. Even if your MB is from a different manufacturer, it might be worth a try.

FWIW, I don't happen to share Roger's opinion about either XP or Adobe. I use Adobe Vid Collection Pro 2.5 on a 3GHz P4 machine VERY happily. I was slow to adopt XP from Win2K Pro, but I REALLY like XP's additional functionality and ease of use. (One tidbit though...I join the chorus on the online world in saying "disable Indexing Service!")

Seems to me that Adobe is about on par with any other major software company in terms of bugs and customer support. I don't use GoLive, but sounds like a lot of people have had severe crash problems with it. There have been bugs in previous Adobe products I've used, as with Microsoft and everyone else's software. I've observed zero crashes so far with Vid Collection 2.5 -- or anything else -- in a few weeks of hard use and it is a joy to use (given that I'm already familiar with the Adobe interface). The only "bug" -- which really is a graphics card OpenGL issue -- is that After Effects 6.5 Pro needs a very simple manual tweak to an *.ini setting to install properly if you have >1GB of RAM. Adobe posted an explanation of what the issue was, with that simple workaround, on their message board almost immediately...can't complain about that.

Best o' luck on the crash problem.

Here's my question(s):

Working an internship this summer collecting a bunch of footage (using an XL1S) for an employer who will eventually be editing it with Premiere. We'd like to pull the raw footage off of the MiniDV tapes and store it on DVDs. (Would like to do this because we don't have enough hard drive space to store all of the video clips and would like to reuse the tapes.) The idea then would be that when we get around to editing we'd just capture video clips from the dvds rather than capturing from the tape, etc . . .

Is such a thing ever done? Can it be done? If so, how would I do it in Premiere? Would I just capture the video and copy the captured video files to dvd? Should I copy the scratch disks?

One additional question related to my other post:

I'd like to take video files that were captured with Premiere Pro and edit them in FCP. Is this possible? If so, how would I do it?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

I do not claim to be any kind of digital expert, as I have only been using the digital format for the past year and a half.
It is my understanding though, that making a DVD changes the video file format. It is no longer just an avi.....it's now VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and you are not able to just export that into the timeline.
The only solution (I've found) to get it back into the timeline is to copy the DVD back on to mini dv tape...as through a stand alone dvd player with output to your mini dv camera in VCR mode, or a mini dv deck.
I suppose you'd save on using a lot of mini dv tapes for storage if you didn't intend to go back and use all the footage you store on DVD's, but it is more work to get the footage back into the timeline, with the additional step of re-recording.

I'm suppose some editing computers can play the DVD's with an output back to tape, mine does not.

I just save my master edits on tape as well as DVD...that way I can just copy the DVD's if I need more, and if I need to re-edit, I just capture the edit master tape back into Premier.

Hope this helped.

Ken, I don't think he wants to make DVD's that can be played on a standalone dvd player, he just wants to store raw data on DVD's the same way you'd back up all different kinds of files to a CD or a Zip or tape or HD or another storage medium.

As for backing up to DVD's, it may save you some money but do you really want to spend all that time burning and later transferring back again to a hard drive? Hard drives are not that expensive you know.

I download tons of stuff, and I used to burn DVD's to free up space whenever the hd reached full capacity. However, I found that burning and keeping track of the growing pile of DVD's was often a time-consuming headache. Now I rarely use my burner for that reason. When I run out of space, I just run out to the computer store and buy another hard drive!

I have 3 maxtors (160 gb) which take turns plugging into my laptop via firewire or usb, and it saves me so much time. No burning and swapping discs, but best of all no worries about maintaining an index to catalogue the content on your discs.

If you're lazy like me, then convenience, I believe, is sometimes worth paying a little more for.

Jason: one tip: do *NOT* recycle DV tapes. Just don't do it.
Ofcourse you want reasons, so here you go:

1) DV tape is cheap. Don't safe money there

2) DVD's and harddisks are much less reliable than a good stored tape. Keep backups of your hard shot footage!

3) Writing multiple times to a DV can seriously corrupt your footage if signal bleeding happens. Yes, people have had this

What you want to do is very easy and has nothing to do with
Premiere unless you already started editing. What you do is
indeed simply burn the captured AVI files directly to a DATA DVD
(DVD-ROM ISO in Nero). Nothing more, nothing less.

If you have Premiere projects you can copy those on the disc(s)
as well. When you continue editing it will ask where all the
footage is, but that's normal.

I can get a 120 GB harddisk (IDE) cheapest at around $75
or something. So I'm not sure why you are wanting to re-use
DV tapes (which are quite cheap) and go through all this
hassle when even a harddisk isn't that expensive anymore.

But, if you still want to do it like that you can...

But is there a program that could rip this format into raw video, or something like that. Is there another format that premiere would recognize that would keep a good quality.

Anyone know any ripping programs for a raw format the premiere can read?

I knew some of the people who've used digital longer than me would have better answers....... my husband (a.k.a. my own personal techsupport) says the same thing about how inexpensive hard drives are now, and storage isn't a problem.
I have been in video production since 1985, and I have the 2000+ SVHS tapes in storage to show for it.
Tape is cheap compared to the pain and woe of re-using a damaged or worn out tape to master to or record on......hence my tape collection.
Oh well, some women collect shoes, some collect men, I collect music and video.........

Hi Jason,

Premiere Pro can import and export Quick time files which FCP can read. I also have a feeling that it can directly capture to QT, although not entirely sure.

If FCP can import standard AVI files then there should be no big problem.

Cheers,

Thanks Pete. All your suggestions shall be noted, and translated by a friend who is far more technical than me in these aspects of computing.

Hi all,
Decided to stop banging my head against a wall and just ask those in the know <G>. I'm trying to capture some VHS-C footage my son took on his youth group trip using Premiere 6.0.1 and would like to know the best settings to use.

The camera is a Panasonic PVL453 VHS-C and I'm using the AV output cable (composite video) into an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro card with the nice little breakout box. I'm using the NTSC 720x480 Video for Windows preset (just picked one that looked right) and tried both the Cinepack Codec by Radius and the Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 settings for compression but my resulting clips show up as 320x480 instead of 720x480.

The camera specs simply state it's resolution as "EIS Standard (525 Lines, 60 fields) NTSC Color Signal"; am I just using the wrong setting? Another weird thing is that from the capture window I can see the video but hear no sound, but when I hit 'record' the video freezes but the sound appears. When I play back the clip I find it did actually record both sound and video, but it's squished narrow at 320x480. It stretches out again if I drag it to the timeline and play it, but it's kinda fuzzy looking (might just be a monitor window thing, like DV doesn't look great but renders fine).

My computer is a Win2K Pro PIII 800MHz, 256 RAM, dual drive (5400 primary, 7200 record drive), with the ATI All-in-Wonder Pro graphics/capture card. Any help with settings would be appreciated. I know I could record to my Sony DCR-TRV520 and firewire it in there, but I'd still like to learn how to direct capture it (unless the first method would yield better quality?).

Thanks,
Jeff K.

You need to capture in the native form that comes from the ATI
card. 99% chance that it is MJPEG. It's been a real real long time
since I did any analog capture in Premiere but you must make
sure you do not have it set to DV.

Try it with MJPEG and if that doesn't work try to post as many
capture settings as you can. Hopefully that will spark my mind
a bit as to what was needed to get this running.

Also, with analog capture you usually have to setup the Analog
board as well. So there should be a control somewhere in Premiere
or in its capture tool to go the capture board preference screen.

Make sure those settings are correct as well.

Hey,
I just got dual monitors, and I was wondering if after effects can be used with dual monitors, I have windows, and I cant seem to drag the windows onto the second screen.

You need to make sure your program is not maximized. Then drag a corner and stretch it over both screens.

When I capture the file is distorted, yet is pefect in media player, or pinnacle edition, if I export a avi from editiion it apears with same distortion, any clues

can aneone help me iam recording (with xl1s )on st1,2 with ma 100 left and rigth chanel using two miks which i can hear on the head phones and later on yhe tape two however when i downlode to premier i cannot separate them or change the level ?what i wont is to have ability to separate my shot gun audiotech from lavalier on the groom...help

Paul,

Please provide us with more information. Its hard to tale what the distortion is with out a clear description, and technical specification.

Please tell us:

Your computer spec
Are you using any hardware assistants
What settings are you using
What the distortion looks like. If possible a short clip would help.

Are you using Premiere or Edition?

Thanks,

Wxp pro pent 2.4 1 gig ram pinnacle dv500 , creative sound blaster live plat, What happens is if I export a file from pinnacle edition as a fused sequence then import it to premier pro the file is like looking at something under water , if I go to interpret file and make a change of any kind it will play pefectly in the preview window but not of time line, if I capture in premier pro the same issue. If I run the captured clip through pinnacle Trex to convert it to dv avi which it all ready is and import that file into premier its ok. I have installed premieer pro on another system I have which has premier 6.5 and the same thing happens. I,m thinking it may be a conflicted as the 2 systems have some of the same software but edition is only on one. I have removed some of the software I have not found it yet. Its hard to send you footage as Im in a regional area and only have dialup internet connection,Thanks Paul Pal (1.o67) not widescreen what else can I tell you.

Hi Lati,

Premiere Pro does not split the audio automatically. The only way that I can see how to do it is:

Pan the channel to the left duplicate the audio place in a second track and then pan it to the right. Change the levels where needed.

Hopefully that might work, if you recorded to the left and right channel of a stereo track.

All,

I really want to add an audio effect to an entire audio track, not just to one clip at a time... is this possible? I want to do it for two reasons:

1. So that when I have many clips, such as from cut dialog, I can add an effect too all of it at once.

2. I have some quick cuts that I want to add a reverb to, and I want the reverb to last after the clip itself is gone.

Is this possible?

I know that I can drop the whole sequence on to a new timeline and add the effects there, but that works less well for me for a number of reasons....

Any input is appreciated, thanks.

I am using premiere 6.5 with XP pro

I am having some issues with still pictures when rendered to an avi or mpeg video, the pictures will "jitter". I am using the tool where you can enlarge the picture and pan across it. What am I doing wrong or is it one of the many bugs that Adobe has?

Also, I can't render in windows wmv...it's saying I don't have the right codec, where do I get this wmv codec?

My adobe 6.5 seems to lock up a lot also while making edits or while redering...I guess this has to do with many effects and resources it takes up?

I am using a pent 3.2 with over 2 gig of ram....so I think my system is sufficient to run the specail effects. I am also using (2)250 gb 7200 harddrives Both drives are set at optimum....help!

Hi Barry,

It is only possible to do what you are after with Premiere Pro. Are you using Premiere Pro?

If so Open the audio mixer
On the fader associated to the track you wish to add the sound effect, make sure the show/ hide effects triangle (far left handside, towards the top) is set to show. This will bring further options.
In the effects area select the drop down menu. In the menu select the effect you want.

Cheers,

It is not okay that Premiere locks up on your system. I would
seriously look into another NLE.

The jittering I think (if I remember correctly, it's been a while
since I used premiere) has something to do with a setting. There
was a setting to smooth out. Something like flicker reduction.
Either as an effect or as a switch/property on the clip (right-click).

thanks for the reply Rob,

What would you recommend other than ADOBE. I have had nothing but issues with them on my PC.

Something PC based ot MAC?

What would be the most stablist program you used?

You will probably need to de-interlace or use fliker removal on the video clip with the motion, in order to reduce the flicker. To do this right click on the clip and choose video options and then select field options. A dialog box will appear either select de-interlace or flicker removal. Render and then play back. You might what to try both to see which one is best.

Premiere should not be locking you computer up freqently. Premiere has been known to be a bit buggy, but to me it sounds as though you have some sort of conflict or possibly if you have anti virus running in the backgound. In order to work this though we would need to know your full computer spec, hardware and software. Please also tell us what settings you are using, and how many video tracks/ effecst you are using. Are there any major errors in Event viewer, or conflicting hardware in device manager?

Thanks,

i heard that scsi hard drive runs well with win 2000, therefore i first installed 2000 on my 9G IBM scsi hard drive and i used to run premiere 6.5 on the system, it worked well.
since adobe updated some features in Premiere pro, i felt that i should try using it soon. because premiere pro is required to run on XP, i have these questions, please help.

1. is it true that scsi HD works better with 2000? (in a way that the os can take more advantage from the scsi bandwidth)
2. If in the case of using ATA, should i consider RAID to boost performance?
3. about RAID, can i install OS on RAID HDs?
4. My motherboard has both ATA, and SATA RAID controller, can i use the onboard controller, as SATA controller to upgrade to SATA as main HDs?
5. i got the scsi control card from my friend, it's kinda old, but i didn't see much changes in SCSI, is my ultra2 wide card still good? or should i abandon it?
6. what would be my ideal set up?

MY PC Config:
ASUS p4p 800 D
1G mem
P4 2.4 with HT
Adaptec AHA-2940U2W control card
IBM 9G
WD Special ED 80G
WD Special ED 120G
Dual boot 2000/xp (2000 on scsi/ xp on EIDE

1- Pretty sure this is no.

2- Not if you're working in DV.

3- Yes. You may need drivers on a floppy.

4- Yes, if I understand correctly. If you want to install XP onto SATA drives then you may need the drivers on a floppy.

5- i got the scsi control card from my friend, it's kinda old, but i didn't see much changes in SCSI, is my ultra2 wide card still good? or should i abandon it?
Depends on what hard drives you wish to get. For video editing work with DV, you probably want AV. The SCSI you have already is good for using as the system drive since (A) SCSI drives typically spin fast (10k/15k rpm) which makes them fast for your OS+applications and (B) by having two drives you avoid a few problems with 2 programs hitting the hard drive while you are capturing or printing to tape.

6- see 5. OS and apps on SCSI, with lots of ATA drives for storage.

Try Ulead Media Studio Pro. You can download a 30 day trial fromtheir website. It's been stable for me on P2-400, P3-900, and P4-3GHz. I think it's very easy to learn.

Adam: I would recommend Sony Vegas. Seems to be a lot more
forgiving. It is a bit different in how it operates, but a lot of people
seem to like it (myself included).

You can get a trial from http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com

Thanks Rob,

I like Premiere and the way the workflows, but it's agrevatting when you have 45 mins of edited video and plug in special effects such as film bigfx which uses a lot of memory and then decides to lock up half way through the rendering process it really makes you mad.

What I do like about premiere are the availble plug ins.

I do need the plug in to render windows wmv files. I am missing it or do I have to purchase that?

Is the Sony Vegas as enhancement rich as premiere 6.5?

I got the new premiere pro drivers recently for my canopus M-1 - RT card and i am now able to use prem pro 1.0 but when i went into AE 5.5 Pro i am finding that it is not seeing the canopus RT card anymore, making it impossible for me to work on .AVI files. Has anyone out there had this problem? Are there any known fixes? i am runnning dual 2.2 G Xeons, 1 G ram, Windows XP Pro,
2 120G ide drives partitioned.

In my mind it is much more feature rich than Premiere 6.5 and
probably even Pro. For WMV encoding you need the latest
Media Player installed I think. Not sure. I hope someone else
can comment on that "problem".

It "smells" like the new driver is not compatible with the older
version of AE. Have you checked to see 5.5 was supported?

This is my first post after lurking here a while so please be gentle with me.

I'm doing some experimentation with the trial version of Premiere Pro before I invest in the real thing. What I want to do is record a musician using two cameras in the following manner:

Camera 2 (canon ZR70) will be in a fixed position on a tripod and capture a relatively wide angle shot of the performer. I will be moving around with camera 1 (Optura 20) catching various angles.

What I want to do is use the footage from camera 2 as "filler" when the angle captured from the moving camera position (camera 1) is unsatisfactory.

Is it as simple as putting the video from camera 1 on video track 1, camera 2 on video track two and then just creating gaps in video track 1 where I want the "cutaway" shot to show? What pitfalls do I need to watch out for?

Also, I will be using the audio solely from camera 2 as it will not be stopping and starting during the performance. Is this the right approach?

BTW, this is not a "live" performance in front of an audience. My friend is just providing me a learning exercise that can benefit him if I do a good job. (demo material to send to record labels, etc.) No money will be changing hands.

I'll appreciate any insight you gurus can provide.

Thanks.

You've got it! Sync up both tracks and place your safety cam in track 1. This is also your audio control track. Then, slice the rov cam track to shreds as you edit out the movement from re-positioning and framing. NEVER shut either camera off until tape change or end of session.
Once everything is sync'd up and the crosses and cuts are done, export the audio track out for sweetening: reverb, NR, compression etc.
Drop the audio track back in and you are ready to export.
The camera work is important but most essential is audio capture and lighting.

Thanks Jimmy!!! That's what I needed to know.

glenn,

can you explain why #2 is a "no" if my need was for DV?

thanks