You should try the Show Frequency Analysis in Audition (under the Analyze menu) to determine the frequencies of the person's voice and the bus.

You can try a high-pass filter (Effects -> Filters -> Scientific Filters) where your cutoff frequency is below the person's voice and above the bus hum. Your speaker being a female rather than a male gives you a better separation between the bus hum and the voice.

You can also try to boost the person's voice using some of the Audition presets in the Graphic Equalizer section.

Well, I just formatted my computer and installed a fresh copy of XP Professional Service Pack 2. I installed some necessary codecs to play MPEG, DivX, XviD, 3ivX, etc. properly. I also updated to the recent version of WMP, which is version 10. After installing all of these, I installed Premiere Pro 1.5. I started editing a little with multiple effects layered on each clip. (About 30 seconds of edited footage) I rendered it, played it back, and the video played extremely choppy. I'm thinking it may have to do with installing WMP 10 since the exported Microsoft DV AVI video plays choppy in the player, but plays perfectly when I compress to MOV and play in the Quicktime player.

My camera is not connected while it's playing and I've checked all of the preferences in Premiere. Does WMP 10 come equipped with all of the codecs I've installed? Should I uninstall the codecs or WMP? Can I uninstall WMP? (Microsoft made it so you could not uninstall version 9)

Thanks a lot for reading this, it's been really bugging me.

Ryan Krga

<<<-- Originally posted by Jake Sawyer : For instance, I have a minute of two of footage with the music blaring and then suddenly I cut right to a little interview clip. The problem is at the beginning of the interview clip a big hum from a bus outside that is passing by is very loud, this was a run and gun documentary, so I can't reshoot or anything. So, how would I cancel out that backround noise, but still keep the persons voice just as loud? Also, how do I cancel out that common hiss sound?-->>>

you are talking about splitting the audio up into seperate sections, depending on the noise you want to remove... you have to then sample the hiss or whatever in the noise reduction filter, and then run noise reduction on just that audio section... different background noise, different sample for the noise reduction filter, etc.

maybe afterwords you can normalize the audio, which will bring the quieter stuff up to match the louder sections better... but be careful, all that processing can hammer the narrator's voice, use good speakers to check your work as you go.

the help section of cool edit pro has some pointers on how to do this, including the max settings for normalizing.

P6 did'nt have this feature in software only mode. If however you had an hardware accelerator (DV500/ RT2500) then the supplied software would enable you to do this.

There were a few bugs with batch capturing in P6, if you can get hold of the .02 upgrade or 6.5 it was better.

Batch capturing will not work if you have broken timecode. Please make sure that the timecode on your tape is continuous, otherwise you'll find out that premiere will not capture everything you aksked it too.

Thanks,

Can you still play the Quicktime file back in QT? If you can then missing 2 frames at the end won't make a big dent in the video.

However this does not explain why it would stop there. Have you tried exporting out as an AVI file and then compressing it into QT file in a different project?

Hi Ryan,

I'm no expert, but I'll try to help. Since you're starting from a clean slate, any of a bunch of settings could be non-optimized.

Try rendering out using a couple of the more compressed codecs to AVI or in WMV; if low data rate plays fine in WMP, it probably is a playback issue. If WMP is still choppy (especially if it is in exactly the same way) even with small, low data rate files, it probably is an encoding issue.

What are your system specs...processor ...how much RAM? Easy things to check:
- make sure DMA is enabled
- quality vs performance settings in WMP 10
- Anti-virus software (especially since SP2, I've thought something was hung up a couple of times, only to have Norton say it was done virus checking a file -- then everything worked great. Don't know why that would be more of an issue since SP2, but that's what I've noticed.)
- temp folders for PPro on a separate drive

I'm not sure if you can uninstall WMP 10, but I don't think so. Off the cuff, I'm not aware of any reason to uninstall the additional codecs; WMP probably came with most of them, but maybe not all...in any case, just having a codec on your system shouldn't bother anything.

Uh, ok, for now I'm out of ideas! Post some more details and let's see what happens.

Pete, thanks for the response.

The lower data rate files (WMV, MPEG-1, MOV) play fine when exported, it's just the full, umcompressed files that are playing choppy. I just uninstalled WMP 10 and restored version 9 and it seemed to fix the playback problem within Premiere, but not on WMP.

I'm on a older Sony Vaio with a 1.8 GHZ P4, 768 MB of RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128 MB video card. The video that I'm editing with is on a separate drive than the drive that Premiere and the rendered files are on, but that's how I had it running before the format. Both of my hard drives are running on the NTFS file system. (If that will help any) I'm not sure what you mean by DMA, coudl you explain that? I'll try running with Norton AV and MacAfee firewall disabled and see how that goes.

Ryan Krga

The QT file shows 0 bytes so there's nothing to play. I have no problems exporting to .avi and using Sorenson Squeeze to make the QT file. But I would like to keep going the extra step if I don't have to.

When I finish this project I will take a look on Adobe's website and see what they say

Disabled both Norton AV and McAfee firewall, nothing improved in Premiere or WMP. Restarted the computer after installing a copy of AIM, and the problem is still occuring in Premiere and WMP. I guess restoring version 9 didn't help at all.

AIM? Is that AOL Instant Messenger or something else?

Anyway, DMA stands for Direct Memory Access. Here's a quick link about Ultra DMA Modes (which I should read myself, since I don't know much of the technical info):

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesUDMA-c.html

But the long and the short of it is if your hard drives are exchanging data with the rest of the computer using "PIO" or any Ultra DMA Mode less than 4, you'll have performance problems with disk read/write.

Assuming your computer is set up in a fairly standard way, to check, go to:

Device Manager >> Primary IDE Channel >> right click for properties >> Advanced Settings tab

and see what the Current Transfer Mode shows. If it is PIO or less than Ultra DMA Mode 4, change it if possible to match the capabilities of your hard drive. You might actually have to go into the BIOS to enable DMA. Your CD or DVD drives are probably on the Secondary IDE Channel and will probably use UDMA2.

If it isn't that, I'll have to scratch my skull a little more as I don't have any other ideas to try right now.

I'll try your guys advice. Thanks for being so gracious!

<<<-- Originally posted by Aaron Shaw : deinterlacing is throwing away half your vertical resolution. -->>>

This is a much made statement that is false. This totally depends
on the algorithms being used and the quality of those. This might
have been true a long time ago, but the quality of de-interlacing
has increased by leaps and bounds. It is unknown how much
(vertical) resolution you loose these days.

In the end go with what works best for you. If de-interlacing gives
a far better look (which it usually does with slow-motion from an
interlaced source) and it still looks good enough for you (and
better than remove flicker option) then just go with that.

Are you trying to match the footage or just turn it in black & white?
There are various ways in an NLE like Premiere to turn color into
black & white.

Hold on a sec. Ryan: you say "uncompressed". Is it really an
uncompressed file or is it a DV file (that is NOT uncompressed!)

Uncompressed standard (NTSC) 720x480 @ 30 fps does 30 MB/s
which most drives cannot deliver, so if that is the case I have
no doubt it would not play back okay.

If it is DV then it should play back fine, ofcourse (3.6 MB/s).

ryan, you brought a lot of things into the mix here, and some of 'em aren't relevant... when you say "choppy" playback, do you mean on the pc monitor, or on the ntsc video monitor? the latter is the only thing that really matters.

wmp will not affect video playback in premiere... i would venture to say that it's not possible, since they aren't related in any way... and the number of codecs you have on your computer isn't a factor.

i would uninstall aim, mcafee, and norton, those are a couple of classic problem areas... junk apps that belong in the garbage.

I want to match the black & white footage to the color footage, not turn everything black & white?

By uncompressed I mean exported with the Microsoft DV AVI setting. I'm viewing this on a computer monitor, but I imagine it wouldn't play on an NTSC, either. I can't export to tape as a result of the playback. The video completely skips frames while previewing and the audio becomes unaligned with the video when it occurs. I've run Premiere Pro 1.5 before with NAV, McAfee, and AIM all running at the same time without any problems, so I'm almost positive the problem doesn't have do do with them.

Could it be that my processor is too slow? I'm rendering the video before playing it back so I don't see why this is happening.

It's not possible.

Jon

I just did an event and had to use a wireless mic to record conversation. However, there are a lot of interference recorded. What is the most effective way of filtering out this interference, i.e. what audio effect (s) can I use in Permiere Pro?

Thanks

Okay Ryan: so that is NOT uncompressed! Your file is DV
compressed (5:1 compression ratio). Just so you know!

What are your project settings in Premiere?

I don't see why this would not be possible. You can turn the
color sections into black and white. If you take careful consideration
with lighting when shooting and such it should be possible to
match the lighting and look.

If there are particular stills from the video you like, you could manually color them yourself (photographers used to do this to black and white photos).

Hi eric,

Do you have adobe audition? If you do your best bet is to use that instead of premiere.

You'll be able to reduce it slightly in premiere. Just have a play around with some of the audio effects, you can of course add more than 1 effect to the audio if needed.

By noise do you mean hiss, or general background noise?

Thanks,

Hmmm. Stranger and stranger. Ok, this is getting pretty confusing so let's go back to the beginning and do a fault analysis as logically as we can manage via internet.

It SEEMS like only MS DV AVI is being affected? You can encode and then smoothly play QT, WMV, and AVI files that use other codecs, even at fairly high data rates (ie, high quality)? If I've understood correctly, that makes me think it is an encoding issue.

So, STEP 1: I partially agree with Dan that the other apps MAY be complicating things, so just for now, clean up your system so the fewest apps and services are running and for safety unplug your internet connection.

(Except for anything AOL-related, which I DO regard as junk, I think Dan was over-stating a bit about throwing your other software in the trash. I spent the better part of a weekend cleaning up a friend's computer that had THOUSANDS of viruses, adwares, spywares, etc that made it totally non-functional...she had a broadband connection without any firewall or anti-virus protection. We all MUST use firewalls and anti-virus software when connected to the internet. Just don't need 'em when our system is "clean" and we have the cable unplugged!)

STEP 2: If you're not 100% certain about the above, open your project and export high quality "final products" using:

- Export > Movie...
-- MS DV AVI
-- MS AVI (let's say, using DiVX codec since you have that one installed)
-- QT

- Export > Adobe Media Encoder...
-- WMV
-- MPEG (probably choose a high quality MPEG 2)
-- QT
-- (optionally) Real Media

- Plug your camera in with a blank tape, and do Export > Export to tape

If all the "final products" encode ok and then play perfectly in their respective player applets, except for the MS DV AVI and the Export to Tape, that confirms the problem is limited to either encoding or playback of the MS DV AVI codec, rather than a generic problem.

If the other format "final products" do also show choppiness, then there is a more generic encoding issue in PPro.

STEP 3: Re-import your MS DV AVI file that plays choppy into a new project in PPro. Go to a point where it is choppy and look frame-by-frame to see if consecutive frames are playing through properly in your PPro Monitor Window, or if frames are actually missing from what you had originally exported to create the file.

STEP 4:
IF frames were actually erroneously skipped during the original encode: There must be a bug in the Make Movie code that encodes your timeline to the final product. Assuming the issue isn't already addressed on the Adobe web site (I couldn't find it, but maybe you might have better luck), go to the Adobe website's Report a Bug page and let 'em know! That'll help all of us:

http://www.adobe.com/misc/bugreport.html

IF each frame that should be in the file is actually there on a frame-by-frame inspection of the problem MS DV AVI file, then it has to be a playback issue...for some reason some frames that do exist in the final product aren't being played back properly. Keep looking for system anomalies.

That sounds like a lot of work, but for a 30 second clip, it shouldn't really take all that long. I think that for us to be able to help you much more, we'll need specific answers to each step. It MAY be that if for some weird reason a particular codec (like the MS DV AVI codec) got corrupted during the install, you'll end up having to uninstall and re-install...but it is too early for that. Lots of questions to answer about the system!

BTW, how did a check of the DMA settings for your drives come out?

Whew!

Hi Ed,

Thanks for your reply. Basically, I have an audio problem where there is a lot of interference generated by the wireless transmission, sort of like hiss.

I don't have audition, I can download the trail version and try it out. But what would I need to do in audition to fix the problem.

Thanks,

<<<-- Originally posted by Ryan Krga : I'm rendering the video before playing it back so I don't see why this is happening. -->>>

why would you have to render a microsoft dv avi file? did you put a lot of effects to it? it still sounds like you are exporting a file that is uncompressed(too data intensive), or it is being virus-scanned in real time.

lets not confuse quality apps with junk apps... everything you listed is junk, it totally takes over your computer... what you want are simple apps that don't constantly go out on the internet and "phone home", for instance, or run a bunch of processes in the background.

get zonealarm, spybot, and possibly bitdefender for virus scanning... also go to blackviper.com and take a look at the winxp settings... if you do a control-alt-delete and count the number of background processes that are running, you should have maybe 25 or so running.

I have a few dumb questions for you guys. First, I'm having trouble exporting my Premiere clips into Audition. I'm following the manual and clicking on the "Original Edit" option, but it only opens up in Windows Media Player instead of Audition. Also, is there a way just to export the segment of the clip you want to edit into Audition without having to export the entire clip? Because I have little segments from different clips that only last 30 seconds to a 1 minute and I don't want to edit the clip down again. Any help would be appreciated.

I am in the unfortunate position of having to work with footage taken on an AG-DVX100 in letter box mode (a 4:3 frame with the top and bottom cropped) with footage taken on a GL2 and an XL1-S in 16X9 mode. Of course, a seemless melding is the hoped-for result.

Any thoughts on the best way of approaching this problem? Reshooting is not an option.

<<<-- Originally posted by Jake Sawyer : I have a few dumb questions for you guys. First, I'm having trouble exporting my Premiere clips into Audition. I'm following the manual and clicking on the "Original Edit" option, but it only opens up in Windows Media Player instead of Audition. Also, is there a way just to export the segment of the clip you want to edit into Audition without having to export the entire clip? Because I have little segments from different clips that only last 30 seconds to a 1 minute and I don't want to edit the clip down again. Any help would be appreciated. -->>>

Jake, first i am not an expert on either tools but i remember I had to change my windows file associations to keep WMP from grabbing the avi first and there is another post here that describes the entire procedure for creating a mixdown for use in both Premiere and Audition, it's also in the Audion Help, search on Premiere and also Soundtrack. I am not finding that feature all that useful, as another way to do it is this:
1) export your short AVI clip from the timeline (export workarea).
2. import your short AVI into Audition (on a track in multitrack view)
3. edit the audio in edit view
4. export the clip back out with the new audio and replace in your Premier project.
I dont know if that helps or hurts but good luck!
jigs

<<<-- Originally posted by Jiggy Gaton : <<<-- Originally posted by Jake Sawyer : I have a few dumb questions for you guys. First, I'm having trouble exporting my Premiere clips into Audition. I'm following the manual and clicking on the "Original Edit" option, but it only opens up in Windows Media Player instead of Audition. Also, is there a way just to export the segment of the clip you want to edit into Audition without having to export the entire clip? Because I have little segments from different clips that only last 30 seconds to a 1 minute and I don't want to edit the clip down again. Any help would be appreciated. -->>>

Jake, first i am not an expert on either tools but i remember I had to change my windows file associations to keep WMP from grabbing the avi first and there is another post here that describes the entire procedure for creating a mixdown for use in both Premiere and Audition, it's also in the Audion Help, search on Premiere and also Soundtrack. I am not finding that feature all that useful, as another way to do it is this:
1) export your short AVI clip from the timeline (export workarea).
2. import your short AVI into Audition (on a track in multitrack view)
3. edit the audio in edit view
4. export the clip back out with the new audio and replace in your Premier project.
I dont know if that helps or hurts but good luck!
jigs -->>>

How do I export just the AVI clip? I only see a option to export the whole thing.

<<<<<<-How do I export just the AVI clip? I only see a option to export the whole thing.<<<<<<<

jake, i assume u mean from premiere? easy peasy. adjust your workarea bars to surround the bit of project u want to export, on the export movie dialog click Settings, than select the option Work Area Bar under Range. there ya go!
jigs

Reshoo.... ehrm, okay.

Well, you have two things you can do basically:

1. "convert" your 16:9 footage to 4:3 footage (creating a letterbox)

2. upscale your 4:3 footage to 16:9 footage

What is your output format? If it is DVD then it might be better
to go with option 2 to have it more easily work on 16:9 TV's.

HOWEVER, keep in mind that neither the XL1S nor the GL2 have
a true 16:9 mode so your not getting a resolution increase
anyway.

Personally I would go with option 1 (also the easiest to execute).
Simply create a 4:3 project and load up all your footage. You will
not have to touch the 4:3 footage, but make sure that "maintain
aspect ratio" is enabled for the 16:9 footage. Premiere should
then auto-letterbox it.

p.s. welcome aboard DVInfo.net Daniel! Good to have you with us.

You may want to try the Low Pass audio filter as most hiss is typically in the higher frequency ranges. The Low Pass will filter out higher frequencies. Hope this helps

<<<-- Originally posted by David Yuen : You should try the Show Frequency Analysis in Audition (under the Analyze menu) to determine the frequencies of the person's voice and the bus.

You can try a high-pass filter (Effects -> Filters -> Scientific Filters) where your cutoff frequency is below the person's voice and above the bus hum. Your speaker being a female rather than a male gives you a better separation between the bus hum and the voice.

You can also try to boost the person's voice using some of the Audition presets in the Graphic Equalizer section. -->>>

Could you walk me through that process? I'm doing what you said to do, but I have no idea how and which way to tweak, adjust it. Also, I need help on reducing the hiss thanks.

Rob,

Thank you very much for that advice and the welcome to the DVInfo boards. I have been more a reader than a poster over the past year and a half.

I was going to reformat the 4:3 footage in a 16:9 project, but have now decided to go the other way, after reading your suggestion and doing some testing.

Dan

Using Audition, you select an area of the timeline where there is nobody talking, just the noise. You use Noise Reduction to sample the noise in that area, and then you select the entire timeline and delete the noise. It is an amazing tool for motor noise or constant noise of most types.

Dan,

I put multiple effects into the clip. That's why I'm rendering.

I run Spybot S&D daily. I update and run Norton daily, as well. My computer is virus free and spyware free.

I have 30 processes running in the background.

Hello all:

I'm looking for an option to highlight a specific area of a video other than using the track matte and motion settings.

I have a smal clip that I converted to B&W In this clip is a shot of a person walking and I want his shirt to be highlighted in color.

I used the track matte and motion settings but because the shirt shifts with the person, it's extremely hard to keep the shirt in color throughout the clip.

Is there another way to exclude all colors from a video clip except the shirt?

Thanks in advance for all assistance

Work with the clip in colour first, then - if his shirt is the only thing in the shot that colour, then use the colour pass filter to exclude all colours expcept the one you pick.

Jon

To remove the hum from the bus, and the "common hiss," you can try the noise reduction in Adobe Auditon.

I have a tutorial of how to use that function. Found it when searching the net a while ago. Let me know, and I can email it to you. (about 4MB wmv file)

I am editing a short video for my church on Premier 6.0 and when I render it, I have no sound. What should I do to fix it? The video works great but I have no sound. Please help me out. Thanks

Mitch

Been a long while since I used version 6.0, but I'll try to briefly address capture, timeline editing, and export...

Assuming that the miniDV tape has sound on it, make sure the capture window checkbox for Audio is checked, as well as video. I guess I'll also assume that sounds play normally out of your computer's speaker so we know there isn't a generic computer problem.

Once you know that you've captured both the audio and video, look on the timeline to see if you see a visual representation of the audio waveform. If so, Premiere knows that there is audio there. Make sure the audio track in the timeline isn't muted.

For exporting, you also need to make sure that both video and audio are selected. You can choose to export video only, audio only, or both.

Hope that helps.

<<<-- Originally posted by Trond Saetre : To remove the hum from the bus, and the "common hiss," you can try the noise reduction in Adobe Auditon.

I have a tutorial of how to use that function. Found it when searching the net a while ago. Let me know, and I can email it to you. (about 4MB wmv file) -->>>

Yeah, that would be great. Email me at kelisis at hotmail.com

Jake:

Email sent.

Where do I go to to check the audio and video buttons for export?

When you go to export and you get asked for a file name, there is a "settings" dialog which you can click to give you a load of options.

Jon

Hi all,

I just got Premiere Pro 1.5... not too bad. However, I have a real gripe.
In my version of 6.5, I had great real-time previewing without any hiccups at all. I would just hit the "enter" key, and voila...transistions and effects, no hiccups.

Now, same computer (3gig cpu, 1gig ram) and when I hit the "enter" key, it *renders* for previews.
So, I hit the play button or the space bar, and it runs, but once I splice, or do an adjustment to the clip, it keeps rendering instead of doing real-time previewing.

Very frusterating...anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks...

Space bar plays, Enter key previews. As designed. It should not render when hit the spacebar.

I might be doing some editing work for a dude who uses Premiere, so I downloaded the 30-day free trial for the newest version.

It captures fine, seems to work fine, except that everything's real slow. When I play back video in the timeline, talkin' one layer, no effects, nothin' fancy, it's real choppy. Similarly, commands take a second or two to "take" after I press the appropriate button/click the mouse.

Is my computer underpowered for this software? I have An athlon 1600 XP+ processor (1 Ghz), a gig of RAM, the media on a separate drive from the program, and I can't think of what else you'd need to know.

I tried turning off all the background processes in XP Pro (my OS), still the same. The thing is, I have Vegas 4, which performs flawlessly, or at least as flawlessly as it ever did, no lag, regular framerates upon playback, etc.

What am I missing here?

Try this as well.

Click Project>Project Settings>General and then click the Playback Settings button to the right of the Timebase dropdown menu. Next, see what boxes are checked/unchecked in that dialogue box. These settings affect playback in the project as you will see.