I did a little research and here is what i came up with. When working with 5.1 in Ppro, you are using adobe's software. Once you are ready to export, you have three options for encoding:PCM, Surcode, and something else (i forget). Surcode is a codec used to encode your audio information into dolby surround sound. and yes you only have 3 chances to do this.

however, up until this point, any work done in 5.1 is NOT dolby 5.1.
5.1 of course refers to the 5 channels of audio that are played on your system, and the .1 represents the subwoofer channel. therefore, although we all associate 5.1 with dolby, it is in fact not dolby, unless specifically stated as being dolby (it becomes dolby ONLY if you use one of their codecs).

That's what I meant. If you are talking about outputting (encoding)
to 5.1 usually you are talking about a Dolby Digital encoding
(which is something else then just plain Dolby Surround).

You are correct that the 5.1 just stands for the channels. It is
all very confusing since a lot of people don't fully explain what
they are talking about (not pointing the finger to anyone here).

Surcode is both available for Dolby Digital and dts. However, it
will be highly unlikely that it is doing dts with PPro.

Right, but you can also encode 5.1 to the other two formats as well (PCM and the one i cant remember). Dolby is just one of the choices.

Are we on the same page here?

PCM can be unlimited channels basicaly. you can also do multi
channel mpeg (unlimited to in theory). Then you have the two
mainstream formats: "Dolby Digital" and "dts". I'm don't think
there is any other format [I'm not talking application specific
here]

you mean sub-titles as in for foreign language, or for hearing impaired?

i always wondered how to do this and i just read how in the manual for adobe encore, that is adobe's dvd mastering software.

i don't know if you have this, but it has directions on how to do it in a text file where the text is linked to the timecode, seemed a little time consuming but fairly straightforward.

that last reply was just how to do plain old titles, not subtitles.

matthew

wait realtime preview via 1394 out?? You mean like a DV in signal to a camera??

Paul,
Yes, PPro does realtime output to 1394 just fine. I use it all the time, no problem. If your camera has 1394 in and some form of output such as svideo or RCA to a monitor, you'll be just fine.

I also have the Canopus ADVC-100. It works GREAT. The PC and PPPro sees it as a 1394 camera, and you don't have to keep a camera plugged into it.
http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC-100/pm_advc-100.asp

Creating subtitles that each appear and disappear at just the right timecode is a traditional pain in the a**.

You can buy specialist tools that create and/or read text/binary files containing descriptions of exactly what the subtitle text is, when it starts and finishes, its font, colour, and size. And puts them onto the video. This can be software only (eg DVD authoring software), or hardware (eg broadcast environments).

Or you can add them one at a time as in the first answer, tweaking each one till it's right. And just swallow the time and effort hit.

Premiere, and other PC NLEs, aren't really designed to provide a proper workflow for this kind of thing.

Regards,

Julian

Ok, I'm confused... at DV Expo in LA the Adobe guy said 24p wouldn't be available in Premier until sometime this spring. I shoot with a DVX and have been checking out various software (hate FCP, leaning toward Avid Express Pro, though I'm more and more impressed with the Vegas Demo). But from this thread it appears it's available now? Is it true 24p support like the others I mentioned?

I have Vegas--and I believe Vegas supports 24p. Vegas has alot of interesting plug-ins available (Excalibur, Tsnumai, Neon), available with demos also.

Cool, Barry. Will go hunt them down and check them out...

Hi all

I'm looking for a old style film effect for use in Adobe premier but all that I can find are expensive plugin packs. Any way I can do this for free as it's a short sequence that needs this effect.

Thanks
Donie

If you buy Quicktime Player Pro, for around $30 dollars, you should be able to take that footage into the player, apply there old film filter, adjust it to your liking, and then save it as a DV file to take back into Premiere.

A lot of effects can be made with a little time yourself by using
the filters that come with the package and combining those.
It will take time to learn what does what and what happens if
you combine them, but it's cheap!

A combination of filters will do it.

Premiere 6.5 also had a film look plug-in, but it's a bit overdone and cheesy for my tastes. The viewer will definitely get the point and the film effect as far as I remember wasn't annoying (unlike some of the crappy film look imitations I see on TV) so it's alright.

there is also sony's SDDS (7.1) but it is only used in cinemas. there are also MLP layers of DVDs for DVD-Audio and DSD for SACD. lots of digital mayhem... basically =).

Can someone please tell me the best way to color match footage shot from different cameras. I know there are many tools for this. I recently shot a dance performance and used 3 cameras; a Canon XL1s, a Canon Gl2 and a Sony TRV950. The GL2 and XL1s footage is almost identical, but the Sony footage is a little light (blownout) and a little hotter (reddish. How can I get the Sony footage closer to the other cameras'?

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Joe

With PremPro you would use dvfilmmaker to convert the raw 24PA file to something PremPro could use.

Vegas supports the advanced pulldown from the panny directly without any plugins.

Avid supports the panny out of the box also.

I'm sure (and can't wait...) that adobe will provide an update also.

I need to find a plug in for my Adobe pro. The plug in I am looking for is where I can make white accents in the film glow more and have control over the softness. Something dreamy or something you would use for like a wedding or creating memories.

Thanks in advance. I was using Big filmfx and installed a new motherboard which caused me to lose my program I was using.

after effects would have this.. or um.. uhem.. vegas has it built in cough ;)

get a copy of the classroom in a book tutorial from adobe, it has an exercise on how to do exactly this.

matthew

What is availble for the premiere pro set up?

Checkout the Adobe Premiere Pro (http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/main.html) section. Answers should be in the what's new and in depth categories.

Matthew,

A little OT:

Are there any other good books on Premiere Pro (or nle in general) that you would recommend. I find the included user manuals very drab.

Thanks,
AC

there aren't very many (any?) others out yet.

amazon lists a few as pending, but i haven't seen any others yet.

i have found the classroom in a book series generally at least helpful.

matthew

I am using premiere 6.5 to make a short 8min clip into an mpeg2 for dvd burning, for some reason I get no audio. Everything is straight forward, nothing fancy...I have messed with the options some and still no go, any help? The footage is from mini dv (xl1) and shot in 16:9.Thanks

When you import the footage, do you have both the audio and video options checked?

I think in 6.5, the icons are on the bottom left of the import screen....when audio is turned off, for instance, it will have a red diagonal line through the icon.

For some types of DVD-compliant export (such as .m2v files), Premiere 6.5 creates a separate .wav file that holds all the audio information. If you try to watch the video file alone, you will not hear the audio.

When you import the .m2v (or .mpg2) file into a DVD authoring program such as MyDVD, usually the .wav file automatically imports as well. Perhaps you need to import the .wav file manually into your DVD authoring program.

What sort of file is Premiere creating for you -- mpg or m2v? How are you viewing this file when you don't hear the audio? Can you find a .wav file with the same filename as your video file?

Oh, sorry Owen. I thought you were having trouble importing the clip with audio from the minidv.

John is right, you probably have a seperate audio file.

For the life of me I can not get this to work. I have a Canon GL2 connected through a Firewire cable. I then use the Composite or S-Video out from the camera to a NTSC monitor. This works in Premiere 6.5, but not in Premiere PRO. As I play the time line or scrub through it will not play on the camera. Only after I stop scrubbing or stop the play back will the frame where I stopped show on the camera. I have my "playback settings" set to "play video on DV hardware enabled" and "real-time playback" set to Play on desktop and DV hardware.

I have a P4 1.8 ghz with 512Mb to 7200 RPM 80gb drives and a 200gb firewire drive. The source video is stored on my firewire drives and my preview files are going to my 80 gb IDE drive.

Like I said, I have never had this problem in 6.5. Also I have noticed that un-rendered playback of the timeline in the output monitor window is very slow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Joe

hi all,

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question.

A few film festivals that I wanna send my film to require me to send still pictures of my film. I didn't manage to get any still pictures on set as my budget is too low and there are more things to worry on set.

If, say i want a certain scene/frame to be converted to Jpeg, or tiff to be printed out, how do I do that?

My NLE is Premiere Pro, edited in PAL format. Camera is DVX100, PAL version, shot in 25p mode.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers
Wan Shu

I haven't used Pro yet, but I know you can still move to any frame in the timeline, and export>frame> then select jpeg.

You just move the timeline marker over the part of the video that you want a still, then go to File>Export>Frame... I would export it as a bitmap, then take it into Photoshop and convert it into whatever format you please.

I had some problems with the same thing. I am using the Matrox RTX100, so I just hooked my NTSC monitor up to the card via s-video, and its fine. but if i try to export through firewire during editing, wierd stuff happens...

try total trainings dvds. they have a section on color correction.

Hey,

I was doing some editing yesterday and when I went to export I got an error stating "disk error (Disk full?)" Now I have a 160 gig hard drive with about 100 gig of free space so the disk is nowhere close to full. I even uninstalled and reinstalled premier and that did not fix the problem. I had been exporting fine untill yesterday and then it stopped. I did a search on dogpile.com and found what I hope is a permanent fix that you can see here

http://forum.matrox.com/rt2000/Forum6/HTML/002731.html

Have any of you had this problem before and what did you do to fix it? I held down ctrl and shift upon startup of premier and chose single track editing again.

I used the effects controls panel for this, and used keyframes with opacity values to create the fades, it fades from white to white by the way, the fades come out choppy when played back on television. Can anyone explain how to fix or prevent this? Thanks.

I had the same problem once before. But I realized it was because my export settings were set to deinterlace everything. Make sure your settings are correct.

I don't want it de-interlaced? I thought de-interlacing footage was good? or should I interlace footage when export to tape? also, if I do a project in After Effects, should I interlace it in after effects, and then again in Adobe Premiere? or should I keep it de-itnerlaced and interlace it in Adobe. Im so confused on interlacing etc. thanks for your help, please let me know what I gotta do with this interlacing stuff.

Some questions about rendering time..on premiere pro.

So is it also true that the more effects in the video the longer the rendering time is? and how do you define "a lot of effects"? like I was only using some built-in effects like transform, key filters and some other basic stuff on the video here and there, but it still took quite long to render..

Well, I have not had that exact problem, however I have had one like it when I was attempting to render, and that was fixed by resetting my scratch disks (Once in premiere you can go to edit-> prefrences-> scratch disks, or I assume the ctrl shift works) and just make sure there are folders for those items to go to. Guess you might have already checked that, hopefully that will fix it though.

If your footage was shot interlaced then I would leave it like that unless you have a specific reason for deinterlacing your footage. For instance, sometimes it lowers the file size if you deinterlace a video to upload to the web. Or if you are trying to create an effect such as an old film effect or something. But in any normal occasion, keep it interlaced.

Interlaced footage displays half the horizontal lines in 1/60th of a second and the other half in the following 1/60th, to create the appearance of one image per 1/30th of a second, on a TV screen. Footage intended for TV playback should be interlaced. Deinterlacing often improves the visual experience of the same material when purposed for PC monitors and the web.

David Hurdon

Adam, have you checked the settings viewer? Often a difference between the project settings and the source clips (which will show up in red in the viewer) will create additional work in rendering.
And on the subject of rendering, in DV lingo rendering is the activity that creates temporary files describing the end result of adding effects, titles, etc. Exporting doesn't involve rendering, unless you didn't already render the project as you worked on it. An export of unrendered material can take a very long time.

David Hurdon

If I'm not mistaken ctrl+shift resets Premiere back to the factory
defaults. This would changes it's temporary drive [scratch]
settings as well.

By default it will write the temp files to your C drive. Now I'm
assuming that your video is on another drive or partition (the
one with all the free space) and you want to make sure Premiere
uses those for temporary stuff as well.

Hi

How big is your file?

I have had that message when exporting large files in excess of the FAT32 format limitations but never on NTFS formatted drives.

Cheers
Andrew

The file is a 30 second video clip with transitions. I had exported it before and it was about 5 mg. I fixed it with the ctrl shift trick and it happened again last night. I did the trick again and presto. Back in business. I have heard that premier can be buggy. I hope this is not a constant problem.

Ryan and keith are right, although most people in the industry tend to use targa images when exporting a frame from video. I believe that you could also use the shortcut key Ctrl+m to open up the export frame dialog box.

Bare in mind though that it will only export out at tv resolution i.e. 720x576 pal 720x480 ntsc. These are low quality you'll probably only get a decent pint out at about A5 size.

You probably only want to speed up the video, not the audio clip :)

Do you have a DV camera with AV->DV conversion? That would mean you could import the footage through the camera as DV footage and maybe that is easier for Adobe to work with?

Maybe the AVI from your capture card is not a DV avi and premier is converting this first? Just a though as I have never done it. The times you quote seem excessive as I had the same size project and it only took about 40 minutes to export. I had less efffects than you though.

Hope that helps you comes to a solution.
Donie