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Eric Chan October 1st, 2004, 11:48 PM That doesn't solve the issue... you still need to go through all clips and paste the same effect on them.
Since you can not highlight multiple clips and apply the same effect to them with one click, I create a new timeline and drop the working timeline into it, then apply the effect to the whole thing. This is a work around and work for some situation but not others.
Hope it helps...
Andrew Paul October 2nd, 2004, 04:38 AM I`m toying with the idea of giving surround sound a go to see how effective it increases my short films. Problem is I canot seem to find much documentation on the whole process. Any ideas as to idiot proof instructions on how to create some effects. One effect I need is a door closing from behind the audience and another is to pan from the front to the back to create a passing spooky thing. The final product is to be saved to DVD. Many Thnaks for any help you guys can give
Andy
Peter Jefferson October 2nd, 2004, 12:38 PM theres no easy way, although some people might disagree with me.. there are short cuts, but for waht u want, to do, the surround panner in Vegas or Prem Pro ac3 plugin should work OK with keyframes
for proper surround mixing, each monitor speaker should be identical and calibrated according Dolby Labs Standards.
Info on mixing and encoding can be found at Dolby.com
Richard Lewis October 2nd, 2004, 04:46 PM Just recently, Pro has decided to not allow me to perform an overlay or insert edit.
I previously used the shortcut keys. When this failed, I manually clicked on the button in the preview window. It just doesn’t seem to be working anymore.
I’m hoping that I've turned something off, or altered something inadvertently.
But now, its really annoying me.
Does anyone have any insight?
Steven Gotz October 2nd, 2004, 10:06 PM Will it work if you start a new project?
In any case, try deleting the preferences and reload the plugins by starting the app while pressing the Shift key.
Richard Lewis October 3rd, 2004, 02:30 AM Steven, It seems to work fine in a new project. I'm just wondering why it doesn’t work in this one.
Could you elaborate more on the delete preferences bit?
Richard Lewis October 3rd, 2004, 02:37 AM Problem solved, it's me being stupid.
Forgot to select the track I wanted it to insert / overlay into.
Ahh well, this can serve as a point of reference to others who have forgotten the basic principles of editing.
Thanks anyway.
Jim Gunn October 5th, 2004, 10:10 PM Can I use both 48khz(16 bit) and 32 khz(12 bit) audio in the same
project? And when I start a new project in Premiere Pro 1.5 to import
the files into, which preset should I use- Standard 48khz or 32khz?
I shot the first ten minutes of this video using a Canon XL-1 in the
32khz (12 bit mode), capturing both the on-camera mic in stereo and
another mono audio track with a handheld mic; and then shot the next
twenty minutes of the video onto the same mini-DV tape with a Sony
PD-170 in 48 khz (16 bit mode).
John DeLuca October 6th, 2004, 01:09 AM When shooting with a GL2 at a wedding after party, even with a 35 watt fill light and ambient light, I still get some noise in the black tux. Its not that bad, but its annoying. Anyway to darken this area, or get rid of the noise, and still keep the rest of the scene the same?
John
Peter Jefferson October 6th, 2004, 01:11 AM to be safe, open the project in something like Audition and resample the footage (ie create another take cuplicating yoru audio) in teh correct bitrate.
Ive haad issues with Prem handling different bitrates from DV
when resampling, make sure its creating a new file, as u may inadvertantly end up changing the pitch due to bitrates.
Audition should have a resample feature.. i know Cool Edit used to... so it woudlnt surprise me if its held onto that.. if not, go and download a demo of Soundforge and import our avi into that and re-sample it to 48k. It wont make it sound any better than the source material, but at least u wotn hae an issue with Prem falling over..
Peter Jefferson October 6th, 2004, 01:13 AM run a softening filter to fade the blue or a black restoration (if its got this filter)
i dunno if prem has film effects either.. some of teh older kodak presets are nice using colour curves
Peter Jefferson October 7th, 2004, 07:22 AM hmm.. are all the clips of teh main source clip??
ie do u have one large avi that yoru slicing into segments?
If so (this may not work) you might be able to apply the effect on the main source clip and prem SHOULD retain that information on each slice you make from that effected source
I know Vegas does this, but i havent tried with prem
Ed Smith October 7th, 2004, 09:21 AM Hi Brian,
Maybe the pictures are missing in premiere? Or that there is black space between the clips?
I don't see why Premiere would only export out selected clips unless some were missing?
Does it play OK in windows media player?
Maybe export it again.
What sort of AVI file did you export out. What version of premiere are you using?
Thanks,
Ed
Ed Smith October 7th, 2004, 09:23 AM Hey Jimmy,
Thanks for sharing your finding with us!
I'm sure it will help many others....
Ed Smith October 7th, 2004, 09:27 AM The answer is yes you can. Premiere will conform all audio to the project settings. So if you have created a project which is 48Khz
and you have imported in some 32KHz, premiere will up-sample the audio to 48KHz. This will take up more space on your HD, and will slow your computer down a bit while the conversion is happening.
As peter has suggested, your best to load it into Auditions (If you have it).
Cheers,
Lauri Kettunen October 7th, 2004, 12:20 PM This should work: create first a new sequence and drop then the filter to the whole sequence at once.
John DeLuca October 7th, 2004, 10:58 PM Peter,
I tried just about everything that I know of in prem pro but nothing has a "natural" look to it. I put the blame on the low light performance of the GL2. I hate to ask, but, is this easily fixed in vegas 5? lol
John
Jimmy McKenzie October 8th, 2004, 01:48 AM Try this:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32833
Peter Jefferson October 8th, 2004, 05:50 AM Hey ed, you know i tried this today and the matrox RTx100 was really struggling with it.. we ended up using the old resample method, but i threw in the 32k audio with video and it really REALLY struggled..
we were using a SBLive Audigy, so the card itself is 48k native, DV is perfect on this.. when we imported a 44.1k audio clip form cd, i noticed the matrox lag a bit.. its coz the soundcard literally upsamples the audio to 48k.
Then the 32k, really killed it.. im still exploring how far i can stretch prem when it comes to audio, at the moment its not doing what i want it to do, but theres always a workaround.. :)
Peter Jefferson October 8th, 2004, 05:56 AM without being a blasphemer here in Prem Land, LOL yes, vegas has clour curves which allow filtration and blends.
U can also run a chroma blur (or suppresion) filter.
another tricky on is to use somethign like a Median Filter and run a noise reduction on the footage
Leo Zheng October 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM i've got over 100 digital pics that i'd like to make a slide show with various transitions.
is there an efficient way to do it with premiere instead of dragging the transitions one by one?
same question applies to many other situations where you need to repeat the same function many times for different clips.
or any software can do the slides show easily and can be imported into a premiere timeline?
thx
Steven Gotz October 8th, 2004, 04:30 PM This is a pretty well known bug. It is mostly fixed in PPro 1.5 but sometimes causes a problem. You might want to convert the pics to TIF, since that seems to help.
Steven Gotz October 8th, 2004, 04:32 PM You can automatically apply the default transition, but not various transitions.
Jimmy McKenzie October 8th, 2004, 05:02 PM Just use the automate to timeline function. Select the entire bin and it will toss each photo in at your default setting for still frame durarion, and each will have your default transition applied. This is usually crossfade. If you want some circa 1997 peels and wipes a la powerpoint, you will have to change the transitions yourself.
David Hurdon October 9th, 2004, 07:49 AM You don't mention the format of your missing images, Brian, but many editors report problems with jpg, often because Quick Time is not installed on the editing system. As Steven says, using alternate formats, including BMP and PSD, is often the best choice.
David Hurdon
Chris Mandel October 9th, 2004, 10:07 PM hi. i want to add black borders (like its 16:9) to my footage. how do i go about doing this on Adobe Premiere?
Jonathan Nicholas October 10th, 2004, 07:09 AM If you are using prem pro, just use the crop effect and drap the top and bottoms of the clip in the record window to add the bars.
If you're using 6.5 then create a picture in photoshop with black bars top and bottom, the middle can be transparant and add this to a video track above the video.
Jon
Jonathan Nicholas October 10th, 2004, 07:15 AM You can select multiple clips in prem pro using the arrow select tool, or shift click each clip.
Unfortunately in prem pro when you paste attributes it adds to any effects that are already on the clip. It's a real pain then if you want to change the effects as there is not a "remove all effects" command that works with multiple clips.
In 6.5 pasting attributes overwrote any previous effects.
Jon
Jonathan Nicholas October 10th, 2004, 08:59 AM Just in case you were using the camera in auto mode, this will probably add 18dB of gain automatically even with an on camera light. I also use manual in these particular situations and set the gain to 6dB
Jon
Christopher Najewicz October 11th, 2004, 02:20 PM I don't know if this will solve it for you, but I had the same problem about 2 days ago on a documentary I have been working on for months. My heart started to pound as I hadn't made backups of the project.
The problem was that I had disconnected one of my hard drives that had Conformed Audio Files and Preview Files on it. When I went to edit..preferences, and changed my save locations to somewhere else, the project had to rebuild all my CAFs and PFs, but that seemed to do the trick, my project was ok after that. Might want to ditch your old preview files.
Perry Terrance October 12th, 2004, 06:06 PM When I first started out doing film projects as a hobby, I did a very dumb thing - putting my masters as AVI Divx files. Now as I look back on it, I regret it tremendously because now the quality is horrendous. Im thinking of trying to prevent something like this from happening again. Problem is, all my previous project RAW video files, have been backuped onto DVD-R and scattered in my collection of files. It was because I was working at the time at a computer with limited HD space. It was today that one of my colleagues told me about Batch Processing onto miniDV Tape. He said I could put all my raw movie files and master on miniDV tape without quality loss through batch processing, while at the same time conserving HD space (which I currently am working on a laptop). Everytime I need to pull up the movie project file on Premiere, I just have to put that tape in my Camcorder via Firewire. So how do I do this with Adobe Premiere?
Rick Step October 12th, 2004, 07:36 PM Found some threads and I got my footage from a new XL2 to load into premiere. I'm shooting 16:9 24p 2:3. But the thing is, once I get this footage into the timeline, I have to render...and after rendering, I encoded with the high quality progressive encode setting, and the video looked like #@$%. It was pixilated, especially around people as they moved.
Is there a special encoder I should be using? Does premiere really work with 24p? All help is appriciated.
Rick
Glenn Chan October 12th, 2004, 11:57 PM If you set things up properly, you can delete all your media from your computer and re-capture from mini-DV tapes. The Premiere project contains the timecode of all your footage so it can match it back to your mini-DV tape and re-capture that way.
So...
If you want to archive your project, keep the Premiere project file around and your mini-DV tapes. You can re-create your project by batch capturing off the tapes.
You don't want timecode breaks on your mini-DV tapes though.
Some camcorders have terrible deck control and can't do this (Samsung). Most can however.
This is not exactly what your colleague is describing but the closest thing I can think of.
*I haven't tried this in Premiere, but am fairly sure it can do this. Test things out first however- it will reveal any problems you may encounter.
Dan Euritt October 13th, 2004, 11:11 AM perry, when you say that everything is on divx and raw formats, it sounds like the edited master is not in the minidv format... so if you put it on minidv avi's, there will be a transcoding loss, because you are switching formats.
the only way around it is to re-edit everything from the minidv source tapes, which could be a real pia.
Paul Juhn October 14th, 2004, 02:24 AM Hi,
I have a 28 minute AVI - taken from Canon XM2(GL2).
I was trying to export it to DVD and the PPro 1.5 stopped in the middle of pocessing "export to DVD".
I have 1GB memory and 30GB empty space on my hard drive.
I tried small AVI to export to DVD and it worked fine.
But how much memory/hard disc space is required to cover 28 minute video?
My encoding setting was Highest.
And PProd 1.5 said it needed only 2GB which is small enough for the disc space I have...
Any guide? ANything wrong???
Thanks!
Rob Lohman October 14th, 2004, 07:04 AM I'm sorry but why do you guys not make backups? It's like people
refuse to make backups! It's as easy as saving the project file
under a new file every day and there you have your backup. If
you want to be even more safe back it all up to some other
computer or removable media once a week or so. I just can't
understand why people still do not do this with something as
important as this.
It is a well known fact that Premiere as problems (still) with
reading project and associated files. That they can become
corrupt. Just do a file save as instead of file save.
Christopher Najewicz October 14th, 2004, 02:00 PM I am working on a project, and I have created titles in Premiere. I am outputting and encoding to DVD with CCE, interlaced, BFF. When I preview my project on my T.V. through premiere, the titles look awesome, nice and crisp edges, etc. However, when I export to MPEG2, the As and Vs look "jagged". My larger titles however, look fine, it's mostly things that are smaller etc.
Can anyone throw me a bone?
Thanks
Christopher
Jonathan Nicholas October 14th, 2004, 04:02 PM Whats BFF and CCE?
Anyway could be down to data rate, what was it? Is it a high quality encoder? Is there much movement behind the text?
Jon
Christopher Najewicz October 14th, 2004, 04:33 PM BFF= Bottom Field First (Interlaced)
CCE = Cinema Craft Encoder
No, there's not any movement behind the titles, and the titles themselves aren't moving, just fading out. My bitrate is 6,000kbps CBR. Ending scroller titles I produced in After Effects look fine.
Dan Euritt October 14th, 2004, 05:46 PM 6 mbps should be plenty for stationary titles with no moving background.
are you using something like a 1-pixel outline on the font? or is the color red involved in any way? did you use 2-pass encoding?
Christopher Najewicz October 14th, 2004, 07:13 PM Yup, using 2 pass, and I do have a drop shadow behind the titles so there's contrast with white backgrounds. Lemme try it without that, I have a feeling that it's something to do with my fields, like I'm not setting the options right in CCE.
Jonathan Nicholas October 15th, 2004, 02:08 AM If it's only on small text, then it sounds like a symptom of actually losing a field as if you've halved the resollution.
So playing with your field settings may help.
Jon
Nawaf Alali October 15th, 2004, 09:12 AM What Eric said. But this works only if you wanna apply the effect to ALL the clips on the timeline.
Harvey Shiner October 16th, 2004, 07:52 AM Hi all, having only edited 4:3 PAL before and doing the logos/titles withinin Photoshop used 720x576 for integration with Premiere. We are about to start 16:9 and wondered what dimensons within Photoshop to use for distortion free output from Premiere. Thanks in advance for any help
Robin Davies-Rollinson October 16th, 2004, 08:05 AM I work with PAL, so my Avid will export frame grabs from 16:9 footage at 1025 x 576 (square pixels)
These look fine in Photoshop.
Robin
Harvey Shiner October 16th, 2004, 10:49 AM Works fine. Appreciate your help, thank you
Rob Lohman October 18th, 2004, 07:31 AM 1. if you output to a 24p format it will need to be rendered since the original is 29.97 fps, not 24p. The camera turns 24p into 29.97 fps in realtime when recording. The NLE needs to convert this back
2. how the output looks totally depends on how you are outputting
We need more information on how your outputting:
1. which file format are you using (AVI, QuickTime, MPEG1, MPEG2 (=DVD as well), Realvideo, Windows Media etc.)
2. which codec are you using for video (does not apply for MPEG1 or MPEG2), codecs are things like sorenson, mpeg4/divx/xvid etc.
3. what exact settings where you using
Rob Lohman October 18th, 2004, 07:45 AM If I remeber correctly that field order selection is for the input
file (or was that TMPGEnc?) and not output. But it sounds like
an interlacing issue, I would change it to upper first (DVD default!)
and see what that does.
John DeLuca October 18th, 2004, 11:58 AM What was the exact error message pro gave you? Could be anything from video card drivers, to service pack 2.
John
Paul Juhn October 18th, 2004, 06:36 PM The error message I got is 'Out of memory'.
But I have enough disc space(2x70GB HD and 50% of them are available space) and main memory(1GB).
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