Thanks, Gordon, glad you're here.

heath

frame rate with aperature priority
 

probably a stupid question, but...

what's the frame rate of the HD10u if i choose the aperature instead of holding the frame rate to 30fps. Seems the video stutters more - does it go as low as 15fps?

And if 30fps is the lowest frame rate, would i end up with 30fps by default when importing into Aspect? (which seems only to work with 30fps)

thanks

My first impression
 

Well I received my HD10u from B&H. I read the manual first and I am sure I am not the first one to be confused by the whole issue of whether to use the exposure wheel or to use the manual shutter speed or manual iris. I owned a Sony VX2000 which was a breeze to use and could almost pull it out of the box and get some nice images. Locking the shutter speed means you let the Iris do it's own thing and i didn't like the way the exposure changes as the light changes. The way I am using the camera is to shuttle back and forth between the shutter speed and the iris exposure until i get 1/60 and F4 or f6. I then quit Shutter/aperture and go to the exposure wheel and press the wheel until the "L" appears and lock the image. i then point the camera at a dark source and then a light source to make sure the exposure is not changing on me which it doesn't. What i don't know is the camera locking at 1/60 and f4? Could someone help me out with this?
The LCD on this camera rocks. On my VX2000 you would never use the LCD or the viewfinder to get an accurate idea of your exposure. I find with the HD10u the LCD gives me a very accurate idea of my exposure. This was a pleasant surprise indeed. i could even see the dreaded chroma noise in the LCD when the lighting was bad.
One of the reasons I came close to buying the DVX100 instead of the HD10u was because of the chroma noise that I had seen from stills and footage that I had seen posted on this site. Do not make a judement on this camera by viewing stills. People who post stills are doing a disservice to this camera. I was not able to see my footage on my MAC because I don't know how to download onto my computer. I watched the footage on my HDTV projection TV. The chroma noise is only noticeable on very badly lit shots. Most of the time it was not noticeable and if you light well it is a nonissue. Maybe on computer the chroma noise is more apparent. I am shooting a feature starting in January so utmost care will be taken in lighting and i don't think chroma noise will be a problem.
The lattitude on this camera is really bad. You have to watch the highlights from blowing but again your LCD will give you a good idea if your highlights are clipping. I have ordered some Neutral density filters which are a must with this camera. I heard someone mention that you need a lot of light with this camera but i found that lighting with 2 500w Coollux Soft lights was more than sufficient. It seems to me that this camera does not do well with too much light. I find that if you bias the exposure wheel to -5 and above you get a nice contrasty image. Another surprise since I was under the impression that this camera does not handle a high contrast image well.
Some footage that I shot outside was absolutely gorgeous. Especially some footage I took as the sun was behind the clouds. This camera has a look all it's own. The camera takes more of a desaturated image than my VX2000 which I like. I always desaturate in color correction. i do find when the lighting is really low the colors are so desaturated that it becomes almost B&W.
Now all we need is a editing solution for MAC and I am hoping to build my own version fo the Agus 35mm adaptor without the spinning frosted CD and i will be in Camera heaven. Has anyone tried to build their own homemade 35mm adapter for the HD10u?

"What i don't know is the camera locking at 1/60 and f4? Could someone help me out with this?"

Unfortunately, after pressing "L", both shutter and iris may still drift as the camera locks "exposure" but not any individual shutter/iris settings.

This is one most annoying and unprofessional "feature" of HD10, which must be fixed, hopefully, in any new versions.

JVC (and others), if nothing else, we at least do need independently controlled shutter and iris!

Hey, look up "editing on mac" under the HDV sections on this site. You'll find what you need, but warning...it's not going to be nice. No one has a cheap solution for editing JVC footage correctly. It's a thrown together solution from people on this board...we came up with it.

Otherwise, get ready to spend more money for a PC and a card.

Murph

anyone??

The camera does seem to set the shutter as low as 1/15th with aperature priority. That is why is it best to use shutter priority then use ND filters to manipulate the aperature for your desired depth of field. When the camera does uses a shutter lower than 1/30th the frame is still 30fps (it always is in 720p mode.) The 1/15th second motion is simply repeating across two 1/30th second frames. Aspect HD uses only 30fps to match the only HD mode of the camera.

Jvc Gr-hd1u / Jy-hd10u
 

I want to get JY-HD10U and want to make sure I am getting the right one (Professional) and not the consumer version. The camera look the alike, how can I tell which one is which?.

Will JY-H10U be on the body of the camera to identify or some kind of menu inside the camera can tell, the model?.

Please help

Go with the HD10 (pro); a friend of a friend bought the HD1 and said the edge enhancement really stinks.

But the HD10's lack of TRUE manual controls makes it more of a consumer than a prosumer camera.

To ensure you are buying the right camera, go to B&H and buy the JY-HD10U.

heath

Raynox DCR-FE180PRO Fisheye on HD1
 

I am having trouble mounting my new Raynox DCR-FE180PRO on my HD1. I have attached the 52mm step down ring to the camera but the lens doesn't want to thread into the adapter. I wonder if I need a lens holder tube to properly mount the lens.

Anyone have this combo? Thanks for any feedback!

Best regards,
Paul

I've done this successfully. I recall it being tight but it works.

Focal Distance for the HD10
 

hello people

i want to ask something to the hd10 owners.

how is the focal distance for the hd10?

i mean, if i put something in the front of the hd10 lens, at the widest, from what distance will the camcorder focus the sharpness?

2 cm? 3 cm?

ciao

Daniel,

Let's say it will focus as close as you can physically get. Camera shadow is in the way. JVC has interesting feature - TELE-MACRO. When switched on, and zoomed all the way in, best focus is about 2 feet. This is about as close as you can get with regular macro - and no camera shadow!

Preston Microforce Zoom Control?
 

Does anyone know if you can use a Microforce zoom control with the HD10? Since it has been pointed out that geared follow focus or zoom controls won't work, I'm wondering if it has a jack that will respond to a nice electronic zoom control?

Anyone care to field this one?

heath

JVC does not support LANC connectors which is usually the type of jack required for outboard controls.

a litte frame grab on hd10 dvx100e trv27
 

http://home.primus.ca/~iamdragon/test.JPG

all were shot at DV mode, interlaced, auto.
the dvx one is obvious, which one is hd10? :)

Why such smallish pics? You trying to hide something in the image?

3 questions about the HD10
 

I'm seriously considering buying the JY HD-10U despite the fact that it's NTSC when in SD - I find the HD on a palmheld very too seductive, especially for the non intrusive film I want to shoot...

Three questions

1. A guy from JVC let me have a look at the camera the other day and I asked about Mini DV tapes - any types I shouldn't use, or whatever. He acknowledged that all types worked but warned me strictly against Sony Mini DV 'with the red stripe'. Posters on this forum seem to be fine with Sony Mini DV tapes!

2. JVC seem open and honest about the camera. I appreciate this, but find it a little confusing when they say:

'Would 3 CCDs be superior to 1 CCD? For absolute picture quality, yes. But there are practical trade-offs. 3 CCDs would provide superior accuracy of color reproduction, and would provide superior resolution for same density of CCD. However, the 3 CCD camera would be larger, heavier and draw more power which requires a larger battery. The 3 CCD camera would also cost more. '

Wouldn't it cost less? Or would the 3 Chips cameras selling everywhere that cost less not be so good, not be the subject of their little comparison? Would the picture quality actually be better? Wouldn't HD just be better?! It seems a vague statement, but perhaps it's my understanding that's vague


3. If I only want to shoot atmos, but atmos is important, is the implanted mic sufficient? How bad is it?


Thanks for the friendly forum.

Graham, I moved your post into this new thread since you are
posting a new question. I also enabled your e-mail notification
so you are notified of this.

Filter (ND) placement...
 

I am about to purchase a Kenko KNW-05 wide angle adapter (WA) for my HD1...I hope there is not vigeneting (if there is please tell me and save me some $$$)...

But my questions is really this...Should I buy and place ND filters in front of the WA or behind???

I can purchase 52mm ND filters for about $15-20 each and then put the WA infront of that. But I am affraid that the extra lenght may produce some cut off (Vigeneting) when I put the WA in front of such a thick filter.

I may also buy an 82mm ND filter (about $40-70 each) and put them in front of WA but again I am affraid of the Vigeneting since the WA is so wide.

Which do you think would be better...I rather buy the 52mm since they are cheaper....

Carlos

Keep the W.A. lens as close to the camera lens as possible to avoid vignetting.
-Les

Anyone using a UV/Haze filter? Would this be a necessary filter for the HD1/HD10?

Thanks.

Troy

I use this filter on any camera. It's a cheap filter that can save a lens from dirt, scratches, etc...Unless I need to stack other filters on I will keep the UV/Haze on at all times. Even while it is in storage.

thanks Rob!

Don't leave home without it
 

The UV/Haze filter should be the first purchase anyone makes when they buy a camera (digital, dv or traditional still camera). It protects the lens from water spray, dust, dirt, etc. and is a whole lot cheaper to replace than the lens.

Mickey Stroud

Thanks gentlemen,

I'm on my way to purchase one right now!

Troy

wide angle for HD1/HD10
 

I want to get a wide adapter lens for my HD1 (which I use only for personal use).The primary reason for the wide anfle would be to capture more of the in-door scene (My first son is due in March and their may be many living room shots). I have done some searches and have figured out that Century probably has the best ones, but I had a few questions if any one can help:

1) will the wide angle lenses screw up auto-focus on the HD1?
2) will they effect the f-stop?
3) is the smaller size of the Century DS-55WA-58K and advantage or disadvantage (how does that work)?
4) would I be ok with a Kenko or Raynox - and if so which one should I go with (I'd like to pay as little as possible while still getting a decent lens, but would pay $250 for the Century mentioned above if that is what it takes to get a decent lens)?

Thanks for any advice that you can provide.

Get the Century - they make the best possible glass. It will not effect your stop or image quality at all. razor sharp edge to edge. Focus is always critical with these cameras. I didn't find it hard with the Century on it though. AF works fine. I might be willing to sell mine. email me at steve@rccm.org

Continuing on the wide angle for HD10 subject, I have the same need and was considering the Century DS-65CV-58 so as to not limit existing lens zoom. And, I really don't need the flip over fisheye capability of the DS-55WA-58, nor the extended .55X angle.

However, adding to the confusion is the 16:9 Widescreen Adapter lens (DS-1609-58). Is there some reason that I would or would not consider this lens? Since it is more expensive, I would just as soon have a reason not to consider it. But, I would like to purchase the best lens for the device.

Thanks.

Is there a JVC HD Camcorder Focus Group?
 

The engineers in Japan are slaving away on the next generation of the GR-HD1U/JY-HD10U. But what is guiding their design? What goals have they set? This leads me to wonder why a focus group hasn't been set up, of current jvc camcorder users, and their wish list for the next camcorder. Someone obviously has to provide JVC with a link to this forum, and tomorrow, history can be made.

I assume you want 24p, 3-ccds, manual focus, manual iris adjustment, and manual exposure speed, the last two of which can be locked. How big a camera would you accept, and what is your target price? Equally important, what are you willing to sacrifice to get the price under $4000?

They have people out there complaining that we complain - that's all I can tell you.

If you're smart you'll keep your purchasing options open. We'll be hearing some hopefully good news by April 2004.

Murph

Murph,

Sometimes people can't keep their camera purchasing options open, and need one ASAP. But if you can wait, wait. I hear a lot of people in the HDV industry are expecting big announcements at NAB.

heath

JVC battery will fit with what video light
 

Okay, just trying to save a few bucks, but I have like 7 JVC battery packs and was wondering if anyone knows of which portable on camera video light might fit with the JVC battery. I know sunpak lights fit with various sony and jvc batteries, but not sure if our HD10 JVC batteries would work. Thanks.

Hmmm. No answers; try calling JVC.

heath

ps-Anyone have any answers?

JVC HD10 and Slow Dolly Shots
 

I've read a few articles where the reviewer of the HD10 mentions that one has to be careful with moving this camera during recording (One article says that it is best to keep this camera static at all times when shooting a digital movie.) My question is, can this camera be effectively used by slow moving dolly (or crane) shots? Is this a bad idea due to the automatic exposure? Thanks in advance.

I have had no problems at all with using my HD10's on my crane. With proper setup and care you shouldn't have the problem with the dolly either.

Just in case anyone else ever comes up with this question....there is no video light. I had to get the XL1 VL10i and use my XL1 batteries and hook it up to the hotshoe of the JVC. Can't wait for the XL2 HD cam...

Lisa,

The XL2 camera being HD is a rumor. We have a special post about the XL2 so rumors won't keep building:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=20346

Please read this before posting items like that up, so we don't get a bunch of unsubstantiated rumors.

heath

JVC HD Event
 

If you’re interested in learning more about the JVC JY-HD10U and HD post production workflow solutions including Final Cut Pro 4, Adobe Premiere Pro and Sony Vegas Video 4, there’s a two-day hands-on JVC HD Event slated for March 13-14 at Hollywood Studio Rentals, 2400 West Olive Avenue Burbank, California. Most everyone’s aware that HDV technology enables record and playback of high definition video on consumer grade DV cassette tape. Join the curious minded skeptics plus keep up-to-date about this new and exciting technology and what impact it’s currently having on the industry at large. Event Fee $275. Early Bird Discount. For more info or to register Call (800) 525-5854 or Visit www.DVCamps.com