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"Looking to save some money....."
"Production crew looking for four 24p cameras to rent for $50 a day. We have a lot of projects lined up from proms to weddings, and looking to save some money. Over 15-20 nights of production estimated so thats an easy thousand for you. If you are a camera man with your own camera we can pay you to work also. Just email me with your resume. If you want to rent out your camera please call me and leave me a message. xxx.xxx.xxxx. Ask for xxxxxxxxx"
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You think that's bad...my girlfriend expects me to do the dishes for FREE every night!! Can you believe that?!
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Okay, here's one I just received today:
"I am seeking an experienced camera operator crew. There is no pay, but credit will be given. We will be traveling around the states and future pay or compensation may/may not, depending on the outcome of the first event, come into the production at a later date when traveling becomes a neccessity. It will require many weekends of work so only the seriously dedicated need apply. You also need to be efficient in editing. This will be a rather large event and the experience will be well worth the credit and whatever accomodations are earned throughout the project. This is our first production and have an extremely low budget. All crew members names will be mentioned at the end." |
Another desperate producer
From the authority himself: "The film is big and commercial enough to get full paying editor work......"
"Need editor for high powered, supernatural thriller xxxxxxxxx xxxx. There is no pay, however complete credit and co-producer credit will be granted. The film was completed spring of 2002. Funds ran out and I am stuck with incomplete post. The film is big and commercial enough to get full paying editor work for any inspiring, or established editor looking for work but do not have a reel. Please call for complete details. xxxxxx xxxxx xxx.xxx.xxxx" |
$11/hour in MIDTOWN MANHATTAN for a Video Editor!!!!!
TITLE OF POSITION: Video Editor Location: Midtown Manhattan Position Overview: Multivision is looking for a Video Editor to join our New York Production team. This position is responsible for all facets of production and productivity for the office. The fully qualified candidate will have a strong media production background and will drive quality across all initiatives. Starting salary is $11 per hour (non-negotiable), and the position includes company paid training, benefits (medical and dental, 401k) and paid time off. Focus and major areas of accountability: * Ensure that all orders, video transfers, tape changes, and market sweeps are done in a timely manner * Communicate with other departments effectively * Maintain equipment and troubleshoot failures * Edit and distribute media in a variety of formats to clients * Produce all products in accordance with Multivision’s standard of excellence * Maintain positive and effective working relationship with co-workers Key deliverables: * Fulfill all client orders in a timely manner. * Proactively reduce recording quality issues by effective management of equipment. * Key experience and characteristics: *Digital video editing experience * Ability to work in a fast-paced environment with minimal supervision * Dependable, responsible and detail oriented * Must be able to prioritize tasks based on urgency and management guidance * Must have excellent grammar, spelling and typing skills |
By the way, I"m not sure if someone mentioned this already,
but there is a website devoted to these kinds of job postings. If you've got some time to kill, it's good for a laugh (although the comments can be rather vulgar sometimes): www.f***thatjob.com |
Craig, that is truly RIDICULOUS! Good job posting that one!
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This was just posted in the Hash forum
======================== As a form of introduction below is link to my IMDB credits. http://www.imdb.com/name/ *Redacted* I am looking for an Animation Master artist interested in creating a 5 to 7 minute cinematic IN THE STYLE OF an Atari Video Game titled Axis and Allies. This is a NON-PAYING gig. Sorry but it’s just not in the budget, however, it’s good for building a resume. I have had success in the past on the festival circuit and while I CAN’T PROMISE your work will be seen it’s a pretty good bet. I will give you total creative freedom, I’ve seen what your software is capable of and I’m not interested in stifling a talented artist. All I want is the finished product in 16x9 aspect ratio and MOV format. World War II knowledge or interest is a plus. Dallas/Fort Worth Area is huge plus. If you are interested please e-mail at *redacted* with a simple bio and a link to any sample work you have online. Students, minorities, woman, second career workers, are encouraged to respond. Thank you. *Redacted* ;) ================== This is a huge joke. 5-7 minutes of cinematic animation! Here is a quoted response that will give you an idea what a crock this one is. "Yeh - but a 5-7 minute cinematic is quite an ask! Lets see - 42 to 84 days fulltime animation work (working on 5-10 seconds animation per day) then there is the model design and building, texturing, rigging, lighting - oh and lets not forget the rendering!" Rendering? I rendered a DV clip 8 seconds long with a single actor and alpha for a background. A very simple task. It was NTSC and took 8 hours. What he wants will have lighting, all sorts of effects, etc. Maybe a month to render or more is my guess. ;) |
My favorite part of that is "This is a NON-PAYING gig. Sorry but it’s just not in the budget"
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He wants someone with "lots of experience shooting videos" . . . and a stipend of $5 x the number of car videos you shoot!!!!!!!!
Someone should set their phone to auto dial and flood his phone line! Must have your own small digital video camera, Macintosh computer, fast internet connection, lots of experience shooting videos, and a passion for putting videos on the internet. No pay except for a stipend equal to $5 X the number of car videos you shoot that day (could be 1 or could be 20 in the case of a used car dealer). The best way for us to proceed is for you to visit our website (new and changing) at www.VideosOfCars.com and then email me a note with a resume and a compelling reason for why you want to start for us. Must dedicate at least 20 hours per week. Other interesting assignments also available. Please call me to follow-up at 914.381.3737. Thanks, Frank Sisco |
Wow. Spectacularly crappy.
How bout people write in with their examples of what things really mean vs. what they say? For example: "Deferred payment" or "you'll get payed when the movie gets sold" = you ain't gettin' paid, fool. |
This count?
"I am looking for a experienced camera man/woman for the Selena Reunion Concert. On April 7th (Reliant Arena) I need someone who has experience in camera work. Or perhaps a college student who has finished many of the Television Production courses. You will get to attend & film all the backstage, red carpet & the press room. This is an excellent opportunity for someone who is trying to get in the industry who knows how to work with professional cameras. I need someone who has their own camera, and If not then I can bring one from our studios in CA. Or perhaps rent one in Houston. I am not looking for a beginner or someone who just wants to attend the concert and meet the celebs. I am looking for someone who knows what they are doing. Your experience can be of working with another station or you can simply be in college learning Television Production but have experience at least in shooting for your college station or other. These are the cameras that I am looking for you to have or use: SONY PD 150- PANASONIC DVX 100A " |
Hey if you have After Effects, DVD Studio Pro, Motion, Photoshop skills in additiion to being an EXPERIENCED editor you can make $12/hr!
Looking for a Professional Videographer / a Professional Photographer / and a Professional Editor, in the Brooklyn, NY area. With starting salary of $12 per Hr. Salary will depend on your skills and the equipment you have/own. I am looking for people with experience in the Wedding, Documentary, or/and Commercial field. Having your own equipment will help "not a requirement"... Requirement for each position: The Video Editor Position We are looking for a Final Cut Pro editor, with some or lots of skills in After Effects, Apple DVD Studio Pro, Soundtrack, Apple Motion, Photoshop, etc. Someone who also feels comfortable editing all kind of events and can deliver in a professional style. The Videographer Position We are looking for people with a DVX100A Panasonic, and lots of skills filming. You'll need to be well dress when need it for a "Wedding, Birthday Party, Corporate Event, etc. "We need someone who feels comfortable with the Camera and filming all sorts of events" The Photographer Position We are looking for people with lots of skills taking photos with their own Professional Digital Camera Canon/Nikon, etc. "If you don't have the equipment but are very good at using it and have lots of skills in the field we'll provide the equipment to you" E-mail me at LuckStay@aol.com with your resume or web site profile or a DVD with some of your work, or all of the above. We are looking for professional, responsible, and talented people. Who can also be available at any time if possible. Please do not reply to us if you can't meet the requirements or are none of the above. For more info email me at LuckStay@aol.com Thanks, Hope to speak to you soon. |
<<<-- Originally posted by Craig Seeman :
The Videographer Position We are looking for people with a DVX100A Panasonic, and lots of skills filming. Thanks, Hope to speak to you soon. -->>> I need a $4000 camera to make $12 an hour? Sweet. Yeah, this one is pretty bad, even though it pays. |
44 markets, 12 million viewers, all volunteer crew? What?
Nobody is making money but they air in 44 markets. What?
I have seen clips of the show and the website and the production value is very good, so good that I find it hard to believe that nobody is charging for their time. Someone has got to be getting paid. Crew "We are looking for several key production positons to join our team. We are an exciting TV show airing weekly called Xxxx Xxxxxxx XX hosted out of Xxxxxxx. Our show presently reaches 12 million cable homes in the Southeast. ... 44 markets total. We are an all volunteer crew looking to make a difference, and with your help we can do it. Our schedule is flexible to yours. We want this to become your professional hobby, after you take care of your other commitments. Our team is made up of industry professionals looking to add to there reels, to grow and learn, and contribute to show making a difference. Our markets include Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta among others. We air on non-profit stations. Our purpose is recognizing the people, places and activities making a difference. We have interviewed the following people recently Ted Turner, Magic Johnson, Emeril Lagasse, LeAnn Rhimes, Rudy Giuliani, Carson Kressley, Fantasia and Carolyn Kepcher. Other recent interviews include Dolly Parton, Kenny Rogers, Cybill Shepard, Charlie Sheen, Robert Redford, Michael Kors, Tommy Hilfiger, Vera Wang, Robert Verdi, Donald Trump, Mark Burnett. Our web site is a good source to learn more about us www.XxxxXxxxxxxXx.com Also included on there are recent shows that have aired. We looked for the best, thus we want you part of our team. Let's talk. Send us your resume and we'll go from there. Thanks in advance for your interest. -- Xxxx" Editors "Looking for experienced Final Cut Pro Editiors. We are all volunteer crew. If you are looking for actual TV editing experience to add to your reel this is opportunity is for you. We are an exciting TV show airing weekly called Xxxx Xxxxxxx XX hosted out of Xxxxxxx. We would like for this to become your professional hobby. Something you enjoy and can give several hours a week outside your other commitments. It truly is a fun, challenging and rewarding atmosphere. Only prerequiste is you have a good eye for quality editing (keeping your audience engaged) Our show presently reaches 12 million cable homes in the Southeast. ... 44 markets total (all non-profit stations). Markets include Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta among others. Our purpose is recognizing the people, places and activities making a difference. We have interviewed the following people recently Ted Turner, Magic Johnson, Emeril Lagasse, LeAnn Rhimes, Rudy Giuliani, Carson Kressley, Fantasia and Carolyn Kepcher. Other recent interviews include Dolly Parton, Kenny Rogers, Cybill Shepard, Charlie Sheen, Robert Redford, Michael Kors, Tommy Hilfiger, Vera Wang, Robert Verdi, Donald Trump, Mark Burnett. Our web site is a good source to learn more about us www.XxxxXxxxxxxXx.com Also included on there are recent shows that have aired. Look forward to talking with you further about this opportunity. If your not in Xxxxxxx, we can mail footage to you to edit. Submitting your resume and eventually your reel is the first steps to discussing possibilites with us. We want the best! And you are...." |
"Pls be pro or semi pro"
Forget the crappy pay, this is just plain ridiculous
"I am looking to hire someone to film and create a DVD of the upcoming Xxxxx AFB airshow this weekend. Sorry I know it's late notice! I also want some slides, and prints of the show. In particular any F-4 Phantom activity. An F-4 is scheduled to do the Heritage Flight at this show, so I want flyby and static shots if possible. YOU will retain all copyrights to the images, this is not for commercial purpose, only home use. I do this myself in California, but cannot make the show, so I want to hire someone to do it for me. Pls be pro or semi pro, with telephoto attachment for flybys on the video/dvd, and a minimum of 400-500mm for still shots, plus wide angle for statics. Pay is negotiable. Compensation: $10 per vhs tape, $10 per DVD, $5 per dozen still shots" |
Well if this one doesn't take the prize!
Interns wanted for video editing and/or shooting!!! (5 boros +long island) Video editor w/ artistic eye and creative flair needed for elegant wedding videos. Must have own editing equipment including the ability to use mini and full size dv tapes and have DVD burning capabilities. Editing software can be provided if needed. Must have basic to intermediate editing knowledge. This position is unpaid, great for interns, film students and learning the ropes. Schedule: flexible, mostly work from home. Some training will be provided. I am also looking to teach someone how to shoot and edit as my fill-in for future jobs. There is no pay during the training phase, but that will be revisited. To work as my fill-in / replacement, you MUST HAVE A VEHICLE!! To cover these weddings on your own as my replacement/fill-in you must also have 3 chip DV /DVcam digital video camera and wireless setup, camera light, tripod, etc. Only serious people need reply! How to reply to this posting: 1. Use "Editor position" as the subject of the email. 2. Cover letter and resume can be attached to the body of the email. Attach samples of your work as a separate file. Name the file "demo - your name" Replace your name with your actual name. |
That is truly and utterly RIDICULOUS!!!
Great find Craig! That guy needs GFY message for sure.
Is there another industry where so much can be demanded for so little....or NOTHING at all? I can't think of one. |
I've got one from Craigslist:
"Doing a film on women and mountain biking -- filming at the Spokeswomen mountain bike camps the weekend of May 27 - 29 at Whistler Mountain. Would need to be at the mountain on May 26 and will finish at the end of the day on May 29. Prefer people who can ride, especially women, and have experience with shooting 24p video. Food, lodging and mountain pass provided -- film credit, but no other compensation. Also need a boom operator. " 3-4 days hard work for no pay? Film credit....?? Ooohhh... WOW.... Original link here if anyone wants to take this job. http://vancouver.craigslist.org/cwg/72762012.html |
Talk about slime. I later found out in a subsequent email that he videotapes seized autos at auction. He'll pay $10 extra for a 2nd wireless lav. Nothing to do with "reality show pilot." He's promoting the auctions. You bring $4000 worth of gear for an 8 hour shoot and make $12.50/hr!
I need Cameraman/woman to shoot regularly for new reality show pilot demo reel. This gig can be on a regular basis or just fill in work for you in the NY metro area. You need to have your own Pro video Equipment (PD 150 OR 170 or like or better Equipment) with at least one Lavaliere mike. You can start almost immediately It's pays $100 cash a day at the end of the day and the days are usually about 6 to 8 hours. You can start working as early as Thursday and Saturday. E-mail or call 1 877 349 8737 and ask for Mr. Filmore |
Do you have experience shooting with Panasonic Varicam? You can make $12.50/hr ($100 a day but they don't say if the "day" is only 8 hours). Flipping burgers, shooting with Varicam, heck it's all the same isn't it?
Present Focus, Inc is producing a documentary style DVD and is looking for an HD Videographer ASAP! You... Must have experience using Panasonic HD Varicam. Must be willing to accept payment of 100/day. Will extend your Varicam knowledge by three weeks of work. Will have access to your footage. Will be able to cut your reel together at our state-of-the art editorial facility for free. This work could lead to a year worth of employment shooting with the HD varicam for the next 10 months. Visit our website: www.presentfocus.com. We do not want to get bambarded by inquiries. So, please, If you do not have Varicam experience, and dont fit the requirments listed above - DON'T reply to this ad!! |
How 'bout this? The station blanked out is a local affiliate of a major network.
"______ is shooting a brand new kids show at the Houston Zoo and looking for volunteers to assist on production days. Duties for volunteers may include monitoring parents/guardians during taping, assisting with handling crowds and answering questions from the general public with regards to the show as the zoo will remain open during the production schedule. The volunteer schedule includes: Tuesday June 7 Wednesday June 8 Thursday June 9 Friday June 10 Tuesday June 14 Wednesday June 15 Friday June 17 You may select one or more full days. Volunteers will arrive at the zoo at 8:30 AM and remain on site until the day’s taping is complete at or around 5 PM. A midday break for lunch will be provided." Wow these duties sound very much like what at a. . .PA does! Pay me! |
13 weeks of work, deferred, no entry level applicants...what?
Shooting a single pilot on deferred is one thing, but 13 weeks/episodes, a whole season!? Now that is truly ridiculous!!
Lighting "Broadcast Lighting technician needed broadcast credit and deferred compensation/payment. An Xxxxxxx based independent film company is seeking an experienced lighting technician for its network series airing this fall and to join their dynamic production family who has a proven track record of providing camera and set location lighting for motion pictures and/or television shows. Two (2) plus years of lighting experience is required. 13 episodes are scheduled to air. This is a deferred payment position. For consideration forward your resume to xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com. Light travel to Baltimore, Maryland and Savannah, Georgia is required. This is a deferred payment position. We cover all travel expenses and provide equipment. No entry levels please." Sound "Broadcast Quality Sound Technician needed broadcast credit and deferred compensation/Payment. An Xxxxxxx based independent film company is seeking an experienced broadcast sound guru for its network series airing this fall. 13 episodes are scheduled to air. The Sound Technician must have a proven track record of providing skillful digital sound for motion pictures and/or television shows. Join our dynamic production family. Two (2) plus years of broadcast sound experience is required. Forward your resume to xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com. This is a deferred payment position. No entry levels please." Editor "Broadcast Editor needed broadcast opening credit and deferred compensation/Payment. An Xxxxxxx based independent film company is seeking an experienced editor for its network series airing this fall. 13 episodes are scheduled to air. The Editor must have a proven track record of providing skillful digital editing of motion pictures and/or television shows. Join our dynamic production family. One (1) plus years of editing experience is required using Video Vegas, Final Cut Pro, Avid Xpress DV v2 or v3 or any other window’s based editing software tool. Forward your resume to xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com. This is a deferred payment position. No entry levels please." |
By the way. . why are we protecting these people by blanking/x'ing out the names/cities etc.?
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Blanking them out?
You mean I spent 10 minutes polishing my resume to send it to Mr. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.com for nothing???? |
I am not really trying to personally attack anyone but instead just listing the ridiculousness as comic relief. That's why I don't disclose their identities. These kinds of individuals or companies will eventually just go away.
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Well, I don't think CBS is just going to go away. Oops.
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Now the ad below looks innocent enough although "experienced" and $12/hr don't go together, neither do "similar projects" unless he has many "daughters." If you know Manhattan (New York City), you know those numbers don't jive with "Upper West Side" either (Co-Op Apartments can go for $2 Million). If you hop on over to his website (insight-media.com) you can see what he's doing. He's expanding his business on your back!
Video editing Reply to: jsm@insight-media.com Date: 2005-06-17, 4:21PM EDT Looking for an experienced Mac video editor to transform home video footage into finished 10 minute video piece for daughter's upcoming birthday party. Please send description of your experience with video editing and hours of availability for this project. Other similar projects upcoming. Job location is upper west side Compensation: $12-15/hour |
This one is not as demanding as it is just RIDICULOUS!!
"I am doing a non-profit TV show like "The Electric Company" to teach kids how to read and understand music notation, and this weekend I need to shoot some 15-second clips of kids and scenery on silent 16mm. Can anyone help? I need: Someone who has a dolly and maybe 10-20 ft of track Someone who has a couple of standard lights, maybe HMI Fresnels w/accessories Friends who can hold bouncers (reflectors) Someone with a generator to power the lights That's all. This will be shot on and around Xxxxxxxxx Road probably, or near Xxxxx. If you can help me, PLEASE let me know ASAP! Thanks :) Compensation: A warm glow - also complete credits and a copy of your work on DVD or VHS" |
Aren't most commission jobs full time? If you don't work, you don't eat!
I visited their listed website and it doesn't even exist. Why do people do this? "Come work for the next BET. America's newest urban television network is starting ground floor and seeks Account Executives for the Atlanta area. As an Account Executive you will be selling TV Advertising both on the phone and face to face. Therefore your own transportation is a must. You will primarily work from home except when meeting with clients at their office. This is a professional opportunity to get on board and move up quickly. The position is commission based and pays according to your performance. First year earnings could potentially fall between $30k-$50k plus a full benefits package. Major Perks include trips, vacations, celebrity networking and a fun upbeat environment. For immediate consideration, email (only) your resume to xxxxxxxx@yahoo.com." |
$100 a day in NYC for an EXPERIENCED camera person using Panasonic DVC Pro 900. So if they were shooting DV25 would it be $50 a day for an experienced camera person. The only thing that allows these nutcrackers to do this is that there are probably camera people who accept this.
I'm still waiting for the 30¢/hr experienced Discreet Flame operator ads. !!! Camera Person Wanted !!! Reply to: shootwithus@yahoo.com Date: 2005-06-27, 10:08PM EDT Production company is looking for an experienced camera person for occasionally shoots in NYC area. We are shooting variety of projects from reality shows to documentary films. Must be reliable , knowledgeable and have previous experience with working on Panasonic DVC Pro 900 ( we are using P2 DVC Pro 50) . Ability of traveling a + (food and accommodation provided) Please e-mail your resume to shootwithus@yahoo.com and we will get back to those who qualify. Compensation: $100 per day |
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Hell, I worked about 3 months on a guys student project (both as an actor...then as the DP reshooting the entire thing after he realized he had no idea how to do it - he's an art major doing a rotoscope just to clarify) and its looking very likely that I may even have to edit it...all for free...just to play with a DVX100a for a little while. But to ask experienced people to do that is ludicrous. Quote:
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I think we have all worked for free a few times just to get experience. I remember that I did whatever I had to do to get my hands on gear and learn how to operate it and at the same time tried not to get taken advantage of. However, I didn't rely on that to make a living so it wasn't so bad. I only worked on things that could benefit my advancement and knowlege. These employers that want people that make a living doing this to work for nothing or next to nothing is just absolutely ridiculous and is the main reason that I started this thread, exposing exploitation and to provide a little humor to see just what these knuckleheads will ask for. As for the ones that do work for such low rates. They are probably learning so the employer will get what they pay for. The reality is that these people can't make a steady living working for such low rates so they will eventually move on. The bad news is that there is a steady stream of new dreamers to fill their place and they're just going to have to find their way like we all did.
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Yup folks. Spend $5000 on gear and you can work for . . . . $6/hr! Hey, if you're good you can get more responsibilities! Knowing that the cost of living in NYC is on the high side I'd guess you'd only get $3 for Florida. Now I included the contact email just incase you might want to send your resume.
Does McD's now require I buy my own broiler for the burger flipping job? Seeking cameraperson with own equip. (high-quality DV, lighting, mic) for metro NY-area documentaries. Responsibilities could expand as project develops. Email resume to film@tuffcity.com. No phone calls please. this is in or around Manhattan Compensation: $6/hour |
Another utterly ridiculous offer. Thanks for that one Craig! Ha ha ha!!
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The whole crew with gear is an internship. Now that's an interesting angle. Be sure to check out the last line. I made it bold so it would be easier to see. Ha ha ha ha.!!!!!!
"Music Video for major new artist this weekend. Crew needed: Camera person (with 24P camera) AC Lighting AD Audio Extras: that look between the ages of 11 and 20. Male & Female DJ Job location is Atlanta Compensation: Experienced 24P Camera person - Contact us. Extras & Crew - no compensation This is an internship job" |
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Earlier this year I attended a three day VariCamp workshop (www.hdexpo.net) and am reasonably familiar with the operations of this camera, at least enough to qualify for the technical aspects of this job. Perhaps my discipline as a cinematographer needs further refinement to be trusted with such a high calibar production, however, the ad only specifies "experience" with the camera... and that I do have. The way I look at it: they are providing a $1000/day camera rental for three weeks use. In return, and in addition to a minimalist stipend, they offer access to all raw footage and an HD post facility for cutting a yourself a reel! ... in HD! If what this ad offers is legit, then this might be a good opportunity for the right person. . . I would take it in a NY minute, anyways. Brian |
This one takes the cake!
Ridiculous? More like living in a fantasy world if you ask me, but check out this "job offer", hot off of mandy.com!
Payment is on a lo/no/deferred basis. " Hi, I’m looking for someone who would like to do camera work for a new professional hero reality show I am creating. This is basically just a real life super hero show (except the heroes don’t have super powers, since that is only in comic books and stuff whereas this is real life) which follows the adventures of real heroes fighting real villains and saving the day in real life. Examples of things we will do are looking for villains by hanging out in the worst neighborhoods/ghettos of New York at 2AM or so where we’ll no doubt run into some villains such as gangs or muggers or crooks, and then we can defeat them and raise our prestige and maybe get some headlines. We could also say rescue people from burning buildings by just hanging out around the fire station and quickly jumping on the fire truck and then running in the building before the fire department can block it off. Then I’ll save some kid and win the key to the city, or something along those lines. Unfortunately right now I can’t offer much pay, as I’m just doing this on my own with my own camera equipment and am doing everything out of my own pocket. For example, my budget is so low that although I’m a knight errant I can’t afford real metal armor so I’m just using plastic armor from the Halloween store for the time being, which is doubly bad for me cause now if I get stabbed my armor will do nothing to protect me and I’ll probably just bleed to death. Well maybe the stabber will miss my arteries so that’s what I’m counting on. " |
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