James- that sounds like another one of Cafe TV's jobs. Very popular, but we only use volunteers.

I wonder what happens if they don't get one by that date?

A movie camera? Well, that explains it.

"xxXxxx Studios seeks a student videographer with access to or owns a Canon XL1 or GL1 movie camera. We will need the videographer for a half day shoot. This is a stage play production. Shooting is on 1/28/06. Student MUST be able to work without assistance. This will put this student in a great position to do work on other paid projects. Must have videographer by Monday 23rd."

Why not? *poke! poke!*

CAMERA , ART & SOUND INTERNS
Reply to: betterpictures@gmail.com
Date: 2006-01-21, 10:26PM EST


Great No Budget Thriller with fun, and talented cast and crew seeks interns in the camera and sound departments. Work with an experienced DP and gain some extra credits for your reel. Food and Transpo. - copies and credits.

Betterpictures@gmail.com

SERIOUS INQUIRIES



* this is in or around MANHATTAN
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: SEE ABOVE


Not that unusual, but notice how they say "credits for your reel." Do they not realize that the only person that would have a reel would be the DP? What would an intern put on his/her reel? footage of them interning?

I really should just post a link to the Atlanta Craigslist to save time. Not just one skill, but FCP, Web dev, graphics artist and logger for FREE.


Reply to: #################@aol.com
Date: 2006-01-20, 6:04PM EST


On Edge of a Dream Video Film Works in conjunction
with a popular Atlanta radio station is currently
seeking professional, dependable, and reliable Final
Cut Pro Editors, Web Designers, Graphic Artist and
Video Tape Loggers for a HOT new TV show. Presently
the position is on a volunteer/intern basis and
there is no compensation. However, the opportunity
could lead to a fulltime position and/or production
credits. If you are interested and available to volunteer
your services…please email your resume and availability to ###########@aol.com.



Job location is Atlanta,Ga

Compensation: No compensation

This is an internship job

yes -- OK for recruiters to contact this job poster.

no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!

yes -- You may contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

yes -- Reposting this message elsewhere is OK.

yes -- OK to repost to Job Developers for Persons with Disabilities.

I, likewise, should do the same with NYC craigslist.

This one makes me sad.

I guess it's not that riduculous IF YOU DON'T MIND SELLING YOUR SOUL!

"talented director, 19 year-old girls seek HBO investor
Reply to: gigs-127628699@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-22, 11:50PM EST


I'm a film director living in Seattle, who in the past has made only indie type dramas. But I was recently hired to write and direct a film for an erotic film company in the New York area. They gave me a tiny budget but I managed to make a very good erotic film. A film that I feel is several cuts above the company's usual releases. The two actors that I used in the movie are both 19 (photos at: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ers/127626026.html ) and live up here in Seattle on Capitol Hill. I put an ad on craigslist and waded through a lot of tired looking stripper types before I found these two, who are friends. I got lucky. Both are artistically and politically aware. They are also beautiful and have a lot of chemistry together. And though inexperienced as actors going into the project, they are so bright and talented that they even picked that up and gave decent performances. I'm going to cast one in the starring role of a drama of mine, titled "bang bang."

Though I have an opportunity to make more films for this company as a hired gun, I've come up with the idea of starting my own company instead to make more erotica but also horror/thrillers and some select dramas that would have built in marketing hooks. This company that hired me makes a good living making erotica, and I feel my film is superior to most of the stuff they put out, both technically and artistically. These are not hardcore porn movies by any means. The films this company makes are consistently released through Hollywood Video and sometimes shown on HBO. As this company discovered--and did Howard Stern before them-- girl with girl sexuality sells.

I'm seeking 200K to start a company, with an output of at least four films over the first 12-18 months. We should consistently be able to average a budget of 50k a film, which would include office overhead, payroll, production, editing, sound editing, music, marketing and an initial run of 1,000 DVD's per film. I have the means to establish a distribution chain, which would include an established Los Angeles-based sub-distributor for DVD sales and sales agents for cable, hotel pay-per-view and for the sale to foreign countries, etc.

Of the first four films, two would be erotica, one would be horror--but during production we would shoot erotic footage as well to remarket it as erotica if it didn't sell as horror--and the fourth would be a drama such as "bang bang" which with its strong sexuality helps make it marketable. The long range goal of the company would be 5-10 years out with an average of 4-6 films per year to build a library of 25-50 films. If we can create an eclectic library with a savvy mix of commercial erotica, horror and prestige type dramas (though with marketing hooks such as sub cultures, sexuality, etc) we will have an asset worth a lot of money.

I'm currently sound editing the erotic movie that I shot for the other company but it should be ready to take a look at by the end of January. I would want to hire these same two girls and build an audience of fans for them. They would also have a small piece of the company and work as the faces of the company, both in marketing and in finding fresh talent for other films.

I've also enclosed my bio and a synopsis of "bang bang." I will be in Los Angeles this week and have a rough cut copy of the erotic film I'm working on. (1/23-1/29)

This is a work in progress, so am in the process of putting the business plan together--part of my trip to Los Angeles is to formalize the distribution chain and start putting this information together into a document. I'm open to working to address all concerns and to put a tight business plan together. I do have a budget.

I've slightly altered my identity but will be completely open once we establish contact.


Bri Rock

In development as the writer/director on the feature film "bang bang," a drama.

Wrote, directed, produced the feature film "Ivy and Vera," with principal photography completed on August 15th. (Erotica)

Produced and directed the feature film "Valentine’s Day," currently in final stages of post-production. (Drama)

Producer/Instructor for Shoreline Community College's inaugural summer filmmaking program, producing the feature film "Better Than Real," a suspense thriller. (2001)

Wrote, produced and directed the feature film "Where... ," which was one of six films chosen from over 800 entries in 1997 by the Independent Feature Project/West for a New Visions screening at the Writer’s Guild Theater in Beverly Hills. Released domestically and internationally in 1999 by..... (Drama)

Wrote the screenplay "We All Got Up To Dance," which was chosen by Cinema Seattle for a staged reading March 16, 1998.

Directed a music Video for Virgin recording artists the Walkabouts, which received MTV air play and was voted one of the ten best of 1991 by viewers of the Seattle television program Bombshelter Videos. Currently a clip of the video plays in Paul Allen's Experience Music Project rock museum in documentary about Seattle music scene of the 90's.

Won a drama award from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences and a Directing Fellowship to the American Film Institute for writing, producing, directing and editing the twenty-three minute student version of "Where...." (1990).

Produced and/or directed several short films from 1990-1994.

Published story "till the snow flies" in the New York literary periodical Blueline. (Spring 1991)

Wrote film criticism for the Polaris, North Seattle Community College student newspaper. (1985-86)

Worked as assistant coordinator, 2nd 2nd assistant director or location assistant on several Los Angeles-based productions shot in Seattle from 1987-1994.


EDUCATION

Syracuse University--Awarded a full teaching assistantship to study in the MFA creative writing program headed by Tobias Wolff. ("This Boy's Life") 1990-91

The Evergreen State College--Bachelor of Arts in Liberal Arts awarded August 1990.

New York University--Awarded a Trustee Scholarship for study in the Tisch School of the Arts undergraduate film program. (1986-88)


"bang bang"

“bang bang” begins with Dillon Moody arranging to meet Anna Monet to interview her about a role in a soft porn video he is directing. They meet at a coffee shop in downtown Seattle, where after discussing the project, Moody agrees to hire her. Moody stands up to leave but Anna asks him for a ride to her apartment in West Seattle. Walking to Moody’s car, Anna invites him to see her perform in a program involving her church choir. When Moody asks what the program is about, Anna replies, “Jesus.” Moody asks, “You don’t feel any conflict doing soft porn while singing about Jesus?” Anna shrugs and says, “My church is cool.”

Along the way to her apartment, Anna tells Moody that she is a former gymnast and had attended college in Arizona before beginning to dance at a strip club. “After that I didn’t have time for school any more." Anna also mentions that while dancing she met an airline pilot, and after becoming pregnant and giving birth to his child, she moved back to Seattle. But when Moody presses her for information about her child, she grows vague, only saying that “She’s living with my brother right now.”

When Moody drops her off at her house, they agree to meet for dinner later in the week. But within a couple hours Anna takes a bus back downtown to attend choir practice at the Unity church. On the way to the bus stop after practice Anna is approached by a pimp, and desperate for money, agrees to work for him. She works four days for the pimp but is beaten and raped by him one night when she doesn’t bring in enough money. She calls the police and escapes him.

Anna calls Moody upon her release from the the hospital and they meet for dinner one week later than originally agreed. They begin a casual sexual relationship. But as Moody begins to discover the extent of her emotional problems, (her child had been taken away by the state) he becomes more deeply involved, eventually abandoning the video project. And slowly they begin a love affair, which leads to Anna becoming pregnant.

Though at times dark in tone, “bang-bang” is also full of tenderness and sexuality, pushing the sexual envelope for an American film."

Yes, it certainly does push the envelope. . .why, no one's ever seen anything more sexually blatant than this. Oh wait, except for hardcore porn.

And another:

"Get Paid to Make My Movie
Reply to: gigs-127646031@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-23, 1:35AM EST


I am looking for someone to produce, write, direct, film, edit and otherwise do everything involved in creating a film about the old people in my family.

This is a serious short documentary that I want to make about my family while I am still fortunate to have 3 grandparents that are alive and capable of telling their stories for future generations.

The movie would involve interviewing my grandparents about their lives and their families. It is in no way limited to that and maybe you have had a similar idea and can help develop this and make it amazing.

I am willng to pay for your time. Maybe you are a film student and can work it into a project you are doing and get paid for it too. I am looking for someone to put their skill into this concept and take it and run with it.

* this is in or around NY / Miami
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: $1,000+ "

WAY plus!

Reply to: Post #374
Re-ridiculous post! George, I already had that one at post #368. :)

I don't know. I've lost count. I tell you, it's mere coincidence. I don't search for the naughty material. Not in text form, anyway.

One of me and my colleagues’ favorite "videoisms" in WC FLA, since the BetaCam days:

"Porn is Cheating."

Cheating as in "that doesn't count as a ridiculous job offer posting? Or cheating as in infidelity, or cheating as in "that doesn't count as working in the industry?"

Industry related, dollars in pockets, lots of porn work around here but that would be 'cheating' in the video brotherhood...

Ah. Nasty stuff. Good times, I'm sure, but nasty stuff. Probably not much good on a resume or reel, either. Except for getting more porn work. Or maybe you're clever and make sure it's "plotted porn," that is, porn where there clothed story portions, and then you put those on your reel, and don't mention that it just happens to be from a porn. That could work, I guess.

It's like anything else, my Ma would say:

"Lay down with the dogs, you get up smelling like one."

Besides, what would I tell my daughter's friends that I do professionally during the Great American Teach-In day at school? Not to mention my daughter.

It's a tough business, but you gotta set parameters, porn work (and I've been offered plenty) is kinda like working in pro boxing. Everybody knows the cash is king, but you gotta sell your soul to bring it in.

I was discussing, through a posting on craiglist, a documentary on swingers. It was a few days shoot, I seem to remember a decent rate, and though it was a bit freakier than I would like, I didn't see any real problem with it. Then, late at night, I caught a low budget documentary on VH1 about swingers, and they actually had camera guys in the room filming 'em doin' it (they didn't show the doin' of the it, of course, but I'm sure the guy still shot it), and I got to thinkin' , "oh crap, I might have to film people doin' it. That's f*cked up." So I emailed this person with my concerns, saying that if that was a possibility, I would have to decline the gig. Never heard back. Guess that was a yes on the doin' it, then.

Absolutely!

Porn companies are sneaky too...
Excerpt from St. Pete Times (link was too long)

January 18


The rumors started swirling last June, when a slew of beefy actors and comely actresses showed up at the Pier in St. Petersburg to film a TV movie aboard the HMS Bounty.

Those who weren't lugging cameras and cables were decked in full- blown pirate garb, which didn't faze Bounty officials. Lots of pirate films shoot scenes aboard the historic tall ship; in fact, the Bounty crew had just rented the boat to Disney for the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels.

But as families, fishermen and tourists passed throughout the Pier, people began to suspect that this pirate movie was different.

You know what they're doing there, right? workers would whisper. You know they're shooting a porn flick?


Check out the rest of the story ( sptimes.com ) it's titled "Yo, Ho, Ho!"

Imagine, if I would have been involved with a production like that, I would never find work in or around St. Pete again. Like the Visitors and Convention Bureau for example (they get lots of state money for productions), I'd be blackballed, certainly.

I do get legitimate work through craigslist locally, just picked up a significant client for March. Many upstart companies, who will pay the rate, just have no clue how to find specialized technical skills, especially when it comes to video production.

But craigslist is a hoot, lots of nutty stuff too. It sure beats the classifieds.

From your link:

"With a budget of more than $1-million, the two-hour film has been hailed as a pornographic mold-breaker. It was filmed in high definition, and its special effects, including an army of computer- generated skeletons, took months to create."

Why, God, why? I mean, really, why? What was the point? Who's watching it for the skeletons?

While all of these Craigslist jobs are fun to laugh at, they are also pretty much all I find. I have a well used GL1, and nobody wants to see that. Everyone is expecting an XL1, or even better, a DVX that can do 24P. The way I see it, I'll do whatever pays. I've done enough filler work, and I've done my share of low pay work. Enough of that.

Josh, I guess it has something to do with 'boners'. Sorry, that was too easy.

Keith, I hear ya man, gotta get that rate. Believe me, I've done my share of low paying shoots too.

Any port in a storm, but be careful if you do the porn thing.

I'll be sure to wear a rain coat, just in case there are any mishaps with the money shot :)

That was hysterical!! (sp?)

Did you see the b-roll add that just went up in 'Helping Hands'?

Yes, I did. And he wants nice Hi Def stuff, and my GL1 barely does Standard Def. Not the first job I've had to pass on because of my cam. Sounds like it's right up your alley though.

Wannabees! They need to write me a letter telling me why I should consider them. I just love how these types start off by wanting an office worker and it morphs into must also be proficient in these 7 software suites.. Too much justification going on with this company, shadeeeeee!!!

"ATL/LA/NYC TV and Commercial Production Company is looking for incredibly smart multi-talented, multi-tasking and ambitious Atlanta-based freelance Production Assistant.

This is not for the lazy "grab me a coffee" type. Long hours, running around, lots of pressure and lots of expectations. Duties will range from scheduling, dubbing, fielding calls for all our offices, to on-set work, client service and file delivery/edits/image reformatting. If you're not one of the smartest people you know, and if you're not insanely passionate about a serious production job-- do not waste your time.

An advanced working knowledge of Macs is required. Final Cut Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Shake, ftp, html, Fetch are serious bonuses.

The position is currently freelance for a month, but could turn into a more consistent position if you're the one.

Email resume and cover letter. Tell us about you.

About us: We are a new, small, but very well respected and incredibly busy TV and commercial production company. Our clients are mostly LA and NYC media companies. We have offices in LA/NYC and here in Atlanta. The leaders of our company represent over 30 years experience and expertise in film and television and have been recognized for their work by the AIGA, BDA, Promax and the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.


Job location is Atlanta

Compensation: $125/day Freelance plus workday milage, minus applicable witholdings

Sounds like 2-300 a day, to me.

Here's a tip: PAs, by definition, don't need advanced knowledge of any of the aforementioned software programs. That's why they're PAs and not assistant editors, or something.

Sweet! All that time I spent learning shake finally paid off! What? ILM is on the phone? Nah I'd much rather get paid 125 a day...and get abused by these jerks.

I really want to start applying for these things.

People in NYC claim they do just that. . .apply, get accepted, never show.

But do you know Houdini? There is a company down here looking for 10 Houdini artists right now. I'm really out of the loop, because I had to google it to find out what it was :)

Here is one that, aside from the ebonics and caplocks... and some other issues, is paying well-

LOOKING 4 BADASS FC EDITOR
Reply to: SOBECLASSICs@hotmail.com
Date: 2006-01-23, 8:11PM EST


I WANT A FINAL CUT EDITOR TO MAKE MY BORING COPORATE 15 MINUTE PIECE LOOK LIKE A 60 MINUTES OR DATELINE NBC PIECE. MUST USE FINAL CUT , MOTION AND LIVE TYPE..
$200 A DAY. EMAIL ME @ SOBECLASSICS@HOTMAIL.COM

* Job location is COCONUT GROVE
* Compensation: $200 A DAY

I left his email, just in case there are some FCP users that have an interest.

Too bad the pay isn't high profile for what they want in return.

"Videographer needed for high-profile interview/shoot for feature length (90 minutes) documentary.

The interview/shoot will take approximately 2 hours.

You must own a 1/3" CCD camera (ex. Canon XL1(s), Panasonic DVX100(a), etc.) as well as own/access to a broadcast quality wireless mic.

It is imperative that you be able to follow directions from the director.

Please respond with camera and mic make/model as well as contact information and experience.

I look forward to hearing from you!

Compensation: $200"

Chew me a new one if you will, but I would absolutely do that.

200 for two hours? Sure. I've done a 200 dollar full day with camera, so why not. If he wanted lights (which he should), I would draw the line there. That wasn't in Houston, by chance, was it?

Anyway, this one SO trumps yours---

"Crew Positions 4 Exciting & New Low Budget Feature
Reply to: gigs-127792791@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-24, 3:10PM EST


Who?

Producer is in search for a few good men and women to fill positions on this small yet organized crew and production.

Dates? The Month of February and 1st. week in March (4 weeks or 1 month shooting)

What Positions?

Grip- 1,000 $
Makeup Artist- 800$
PA-700$
PA-700$
Script Supervisor- 600$

Format?

Film will be shot on super 16mm with festival consideration (IMDB Credit).

Details?

Monthly Rate, Meals, Copy of Completed Film, & Credit will ALL be provided for your participation in this ambitious and interesting project.

What To Do?

Send your name and contact information to this posting along with a resume if you have one, for those without please describe your level of experience and what position you are applying for. Film students are welcome to respond and apply.

Note:

Rates are as they stand, this is a low budget project and we cannot unfortunately offer more pay. This is a great way to gain experience and network with crew and producers while making SOME money, unlike many postings on this website. Only those with positive attitudes and a strong work ethic need apply, I thank you all in advance.

Sincerely, Assistant to Producer. "

By the way, do these people who put "IMDB Credit" and "festival. . .blah blah blah" in there think that we don't know that anyone can enter their own info on IMDB, and anyone can submit anything to a festival? I could poop in a soup can and submit it as a short. So what?

I gotta tell you guys---I been doin' this stuff for about four years, on and off (with a WHOLE lot of off). I get a little more work every year, but all in all, I have not done that many freelance shoots.

I bought the XL1s to make short films with (this was pre-DVX100 era), and have done that, but the idea to make money with the thing didn't occur to me 'til later ("wait, people will actually pay you to use this camera?"), so that didn't figure into the purchase decision.

So that's where I come from with a lot of this stuff. If I had 20 years experience and was fully confident I would not do this or that wrong, miss this or that shot, or anything else, then I would scoff at those rates too. As it is, they're just about right for me right now. Especially for a half day (even if setup/takedown is an hour each, I can't see going past 5 hours).

On the other hand, I know a guy who has 30 years experience, and for a full day with this PDX10, lights, audio, etc., would charge $350. Pretty wacky, eh?

Yeah... I'm a full time starving artist, tired of no pay. Where is this job at???

I have several avenues of income ---master control operator, community college videographer/editor, occasional PA, occasional freelancer videographer. And there's no debt. Wouldn't have bought something I didn't have the money for already.

The gas down there alone makes it cost prohibitive. Then, if my wife needs to come down and bail me out... Right now, I'm out $40 and a day. However, if I were to catch him on the street...

hello james,

i would do this job too. covers my media, gas, food + 100 bugs, or 50 an hour.
at this point there is no word about light, and that it will take more then 2 hours, is an assumption.
just out of curiousity. what would quote, for this job?

greetings