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Josh Bass January 17th, 2006 10:23 PM

If the editing paid, I'd do it. If not, then yeah, it's crap.

Josh Bass January 17th, 2006 10:49 PM

Ok, I got the best one ever.

"Two photographers documenting our erotic time in the homes of others - some friends, some strangers. If you'd be willing to donate your space for us to use as a set of sorts, please contact us. Your compensation is photo and video of us in your home. You can see a few of our images at



flickr.com/photos/tetheredtothesun




a site which will be fully updated in the next week. Plenty of personal and professional references to assure you as to the safety of your home - we'll leave it as we found it and we only need a few hours. As long as its empty - its perfect.

* this is in or around Houston
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: Photo/Video documentation "

Josh Bass January 17th, 2006 11:30 PM

And another, more relevant:

"Need students and talent for Capitol Records shoot
Reply to: gigs-126237520@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-17, 10:03PM EST


We have been asked by Capitol Records to produce a demo music video for recently signed band, Hurt. www.hurtband.com. We need talented visual artists to help us produce a worthy demo for the record label. This is a non-paying gig but if we are granted the contract we will be operating under a full scale budget. Visual FX people and makeup artists are something that we really need. Check out our affiliate at www.buzzmediaproductions.com

* this is in or around NJ
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: Future consideration for major label projects "

Damn. . .too bad those record companies are so poor and can't pay their crews.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
If the editing paid, I'd do it. If not, then yeah, it's crap.

You mean to tell me that you would shoot with your camera for four hours for $100 or $25/hour? What would you do, charge $200 / hour to edit to make up for the loss in the shoot?

James Emory January 18th, 2006 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
We have been asked by Capitol Records to produce a demo music video for recently signed band, Hurt.

Looks like they're hurting for money! :O

Josh Bass January 18th, 2006 05:54 AM

I don't know 'bout you, dude, but I don't seem to be able to command a whole hell of a lot for a shoot with the XL1s. So, yeah, 25 an hour ain't too bad for me. I understand if it doesn't work for you, but that's you. Keep in mind, that's $250 a day if it's a 10 hour day, and that's not a bad rate for me.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
I don't know 'bout you, dude, but I don't seem to be able to command a whole hell of a lot for a shoot with the XL1s. So, yeah, 25 an hour ain't too bad for me. I understand if it doesn't work for you, but that's you. Keep in mind, that's $250 a day if it's a 10 hour day, and that's not a bad rate for me.

It ain't $250/day when that cheapass above is paying you and that's what I'm talking about!! $250/day is what you should be charging for your camera alone. That's what I do and the labor is extra.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 01:04 PM

"Producer is looking to partner up with other Producers/Directors splitting the costs on Film/Television projects. I prefer to work with someone who has partial funds between $100,000 and $1 million and who has already selected the project to be produced. Please contact me at xxx.xxx.xxxx.

Compensation: $500"


Uhhh, who wouldn't? What does $500 mean for this inquiry anyway?

I prefer to own a $100K Cine Alta F900 instead of a $3500 XL-1.

Josh Bass January 18th, 2006 05:40 PM

James, I commend you for being able to get those rates for a camera alone, especiallys since most rental houses (around here, can't speak for anywhere else) only charge $175 for their DVXs). I cannot.

Anyway, this one wouldn't be that notable except for the attitude:

"THIS WEEKEND: Videographer/Cameraperson for MA documentary short
Reply to: gigs-126419019@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-18, 2:51PM EST


THIS WEEKEND, we're shooting some B roll for a mini-documentary on a martial arts legend. This martial artist is arguably one of the best self-defense practitioners in the world, and certainly one of the most controversial.

We have a Sony TRV900 (though you can use your own equipment if you prefer) and a shotgun mic. We're looking for someone to videotape during the seminar(s). Prefer a martial artist enthusiast. It will be either Saturday or Sunday (flexible), and you will be working with a director. There is no pay available. We are offering one month of quality instruction in our school, and of course you gain access to these exclusive seminars with this master--which we guarantee will not be boring. He is also one of the most charming and funny personalities you will meet.

[asshole]Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot. Please send a resume, cover letter, and if possible some links to your material.[/asshole]

* There's also a brief interview with him that we're working out for Sunday, and may need minimal lights (or someone who knows how to light with practicals), so if you take an interest and want to contribute further, we would not turn you away.

Thanks for looking! "

My, aren't we cocky for a non-paying gig! And I like how they somehow learned the meaning of "practicals".

K. Forman January 18th, 2006 05:52 PM

I found this on Craigslist Orlando. You decide for your self what is up with this guy.

Like making movies without all the cameras
Reply to: gigs-123019047@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-05, 11:26PM EST


Hi, I'm a single, white, professional male, 29, 6'3" tall, and slender/average build. I'd like to find beautiful model types interested in doing incredible sex scenes together without all the cameras or production people . I'm not camera shy, and am, in fact, an amateur photographer, so if you'd like to record the event or take some photos to fill out your portfolio, I'm down for that, too. Pay is open and negotiable: just make an offer, tell me what's included, and, if possible, send me a recent photo or two...we'll negotiate it out from there. Why not have fun and make a few bucks while doing it? Hope to talk to you soon.

Josh Bass January 18th, 2006 06:05 PM

Awesome. Simply awesome.

So he's basically advertising for a prostitute, and if she happens to want to record it, cool, but not necessary.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
James, I commend you for being able to get those rates for a camera alone, especiallys since most rental houses (around here, can't speak for anywhere else) only charge $175 for their DVXs). I cannot.

Well, let me say that the only time I get that rate for my gear is for corporate and personal clients. I've only gotten that once x2 on a network show for 3 days and about five times x2 on a 5 day pilot. There's no way that would fly with most of the other production companies I currently and have worked for. In fact I lost $350 over a 2 day rental ($175 per day) for one of my cameras because I held my ground. They ended up getting a DSR 570 with a $15K HD lens for the rate of a PD 150 because the rental house was out of PD 150s. What a deal, they made out great on that deal! I worked on the show but I just didn't get the rental. I could kick myself for that one but I thought they would come around. A lesson learned. I am not a rental house though so I can't give those rates. They usually have several units and that's all they do. I have to be the operator of my gear except for a couple of other shooters that I trust and we share our gear for rentals all the time.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
"Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot."

Hahahahaha, LMAO! Then why the hell don't they!

James Emory January 18th, 2006 07:17 PM

Keith, that's right up there with Josh's earlier post. Downright naughty, not to mention strange!

K. Forman January 18th, 2006 07:30 PM

James... Does that not fall in with this topic? If not, I appologise. It's title caught my eye, and of course, curiosity made me read the thing. Then, I laughed, and thought of this thread :)

Josh Bass January 18th, 2006 07:40 PM

Ah, well, there you go. I don't have clients, per se, usually work for production companies, and I've certainly never had the honor of working on a real show. Well, not as a camera guy anyway. I've done the PA thing.

James Emory January 18th, 2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman
James... Does that not fall in with this topic?

Well of course it does if it involves video production along with ridiculous and/or strange terms! And that..........is ridiculous and strange, not to mention just plain naughty.

Craig Seeman January 19th, 2006 12:13 AM

James, are you looking at craigslist NYC? I saw the exact same post there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by James Emory
4 hours max? Well that makes me feel better. No, wait a minute, that's just for the hours of shooting not including editing. Oh, I get to do that for free? Ok, thanks!

"Professional Videographer needed for an event to be held Monday Jan. 30th.

Filming will last for at least 3 hours. Must be able to produce High-Quality video & also finished edited product. Digital equipment perferred be not required.

Must have previous work experience (video) to submit as examples.

The job pays $25 per hour with 3 hour minimum & 4 hour max. :)

For more info feel free to call Xxxxxxxxxxx or respond to email below."


Craig Seeman January 19th, 2006 12:18 AM

Josh, did you see this in Houston? This too was posted on Craigslist NYC today too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
Anyway, this one wouldn't be that notable except for the attitude:

"THIS WEEKEND: Videographer/Cameraperson for MA documentary short
Reply to: gigs-126419019@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-18, 2:51PM EST


THIS WEEKEND, we're shooting some B roll for a mini-documentary on a martial arts legend. This martial artist is arguably one of the best self-defense practitioners in the world, and certainly one of the most controversial.

We have a Sony TRV900 (though you can use your own equipment if you prefer) and a shotgun mic. We're looking for someone to videotape during the seminar(s). Prefer a martial artist enthusiast. It will be either Saturday or Sunday (flexible), and you will be working with a director. There is no pay available. We are offering one month of quality instruction in our school, and of course you gain access to these exclusive seminars with this master--which we guarantee will not be boring. He is also one of the most charming and funny personalities you will meet.

[asshole]Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot. Please send a resume, cover letter, and if possible some links to your material.[/asshole]

* There's also a brief interview with him that we're working out for Sunday, and may need minimal lights (or someone who knows how to light with practicals), so if you take an interest and want to contribute further, we would not turn you away.

Thanks for looking! "

My, aren't we cocky for a non-paying gig! And I like how they somehow learned the meaning of "practicals".


James Emory January 19th, 2006 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman
James, are you looking at craigslist NYC? I saw the exact same post there.

Yep, I wonder where this event is? If the pay is so low then how are they going to travel a crew? Cheap and dumb!

Josh Bass January 19th, 2006 02:35 AM

Damn. . .you bastards found my secret ridiculous post goldmine.

K. Forman January 19th, 2006 06:22 AM

This one seems pretty low ball to me as well...

Vacancy: Live Broadcast Crew
Employer: Gem & Jewelry Network
Location: Kissimmee
Duration: This is a permanent position, starts Immediately

Looking to work with a national television company that’s going big places?

Now hiring experienced production personnel for an immediate start for live nightly broadcasts.

Must be willing to work nights, live near or be able to drive to Kissimmee. Pay starts at $10/hour and higher based on experience.

Positions Available:

Studio Camera Operator

We are hiring studio camera operators for live national broadcasts. Duties include, but are not limited to, all aspects of operation: studio camera operator, studio set-up and cleaning, assisting with studio lighting and other general duties as assigned. Creativity, technical know-how and the ability to work quickly and under pressure is also encouraged.

Simon Wyndham January 19th, 2006 06:30 AM

ROTFLOL!! $10 an hour for a live broadcast crew?! Thats only just above the minimum wage in the UK!

What are they using in their OB truck? A Fisher Price "My First OB Kit"?

K. Forman January 19th, 2006 07:55 AM

I agree 100%. It is amazing the people with legitimate production jobs paying almost nothing, yet I saw an ad for camera op in adult films paying $300-$500 per shoot. If this keeps up, I'll ditch legitimate production.

Simon Wyndham January 19th, 2006 08:17 AM

No need to ditch legit production. Just run your own company. The companies that do this kind of low balling rake in the money for themselves while paying the people who help them to make that money absolutely zero.

The saying that applies very well to the video and film world is that "you get what you pay for". No matter how saturated the market becomes, the really skilled people will not lowball. Cheap will always remain cheap, and their productions will reflect that. One way to combat this is for people, even newbies, NOT to lowball themselves. We enjoy our work for sure, but everyone in this business has to make enough money to live on.

Problem is that there is always a University leaver somewhere who wants to get their foot in the door and will go to any lengths to do so, and will accept such rates. And there's a load of production companies out there that know this.

Reid Bailey January 19th, 2006 08:38 AM

The Ninja site was great!
Especially the hate mail. How big of a stick do some people have up their keester? Did anyone ever have a disucssion with one of the "real pratictioners" about how ninjas can really turn themselves invisible...

And laugh all you want to, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone picked up that superhero show. Kind of like a scripted "jackass"...

K. Forman January 19th, 2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reid Bailey
The Ninja site was great!
Especially the hate mail. How big of a stick do some people have up their keester? Did anyone ever have a disucssion with one of the "real pratictioners" about how ninjas can really turn themselves invisible...

And laugh all you want to, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone picked up that superhero show. Kind of like a scripted "jackass"...

I'd watch it... if nothing else, just because I enjoy watching some idiot get a whoopin ;)

James Emory January 19th, 2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
Damn. . .you bastards found my secret ridiculous post goldmine.

Who are you calling a bastard?

James Emory January 19th, 2006 06:03 PM

Gem & Jewelry Show
 
Hahahahaha! I'm with Keith and Simon. That is absolutely f***king ridiculous!! LMAO!! Please give me their number. I think I have seen that show way up in the channels on Comcast. Who allows these cheap asses to broadcast nationally with their CZ bubblegum machine crapola!?

James Emory January 19th, 2006 06:08 PM

These cheapasses must be related to the jewelry folks. The really mean gaffers but for the PA rate. How can they say they are the fastest growing production company in the ATL? What if I said mine was or if you said yours was, it would be anarchy! If $10/hour pay represents success for the fastest production company in Atlanta, we're in big trouble!

"We are looking for production assistants for various projects. Some experience with lights, etc. preferred. please email resume and references. Good entry level work for ambitious young people with Atlanta's fastest growing video production company.

Compensation: Starts at $10 per hour"

Josh Bass January 19th, 2006 07:11 PM

The local CBS affiliate is paying its photographers $15 an hour.

Larry Sullivan January 19th, 2006 08:11 PM

Is this rediculous?



We need an Avid Editor with the skills necessary to put together a 30-minute Entertainment and Comedy Show. We don't have time to babysit, so unless you can bring it, please don't apply. If you like Howard Stern, Jaime Kennedy and Wild on E! then you'll like this show. We're airing nationally this Spring, so the pay won't stay low forever...and this may even be the beginning of a great career.

If you can operate a DVX-100 that would be great too.


Job location is Vegas

Compensation: $10.00 an hour to start

no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!

no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

yes -- Reposting this message elsewhere is OK.

Josh Bass January 19th, 2006 08:30 PM

Attitude + Low pay for a show actually slated to air nationally = Bite me!

James Emory January 19th, 2006 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass
The local CBS affiliate is paying its photographers $15 an hour.

That is unbelievably ridiculous considering the schedule that they keep. They'll keep getting that low as long as they allow it to go on. I think it also depends on the market but that is way to low considering the skill required and schedule.

James Emory January 19th, 2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan
Is this rediculous?

We need an Avid Editor with the skills necessary to put together a 30-minute Entertainment and Comedy Show. We don't have time to babysit, so unless you can bring it, please don't apply. If you like Howard Stern, Jaime Kennedy and Wild on E! then you'll like this show. We're airing nationally this Spring, so the pay won't stay low forever...and this may even be the beginning of a great career.

If you can operate a DVX-100 that would be great too.


Job location is Vegas

Compensation: $10.00 an hour to start.

And I thought all the cheapasses were in Atlanta. That is a certified case of mental illness! I love how all of the cheapasses have ESPN, I mean ESP, and know how successful their one of a kind show will be. But they all seem to slip in the words, may or if as an escape. We need to produce a Craig's List "So Where Are They Now" folllow up show.

I would actually like to know how many of these ridiculous pipe dreams actually even materialize as a production day, much less a finished product, much less if it is sold and successful.

George Ellis January 20th, 2006 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Emory
We need to produce a Craig's List "So Where Are They Now" folllow up show.

As the Atlanta area's fastest growing production company (300% increase in size from last year!), I will take you up on that. And not to be undersold, I will be hiring a PA for $9.50 an hour. This is just the job for YOU.

OOPS. FORGOT TO USE THE CAPS LOCK KEY.

:p

Craig Seeman January 20th, 2006 08:51 AM

You can always tell who's working for those companies on the various boards.

"We shot our 30 minutes show with the lens cap on. Is there a filter that I can use to remove it in Final Cut Pro?"

and when they run into a software problem and you tell them to reinstall . . ."I can't find my install disk and lost my serial number. Can you . . .?"

The amazing thing is those are the kinds of folks that underbid us on jobs . . . and they get them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham
. . .
Problem is that there is always a University leaver somewhere who wants to get their foot in the door and will go to any lengths to do so, and will accept such rates. And there's a load of production companies out there that know this.


Sean Marks January 20th, 2006 06:03 PM

Oh boy
 
I'm new here, but I figured I'd start everyone off with a whopper (of a job....not the burger)

CAMERA OPERATOR NEEDED
Reply to: gigs-126996360@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-20, 1:57PM EST


TV SHOW REQUIRES CAMERA OPERATOR. NO PAY BUT IF SHOW IS EVENTUALLY A HIT WILL USE PERSON FOR FUTURE SHOWS. The first episode will be shot this week and it will air on MNN Public ACESSS. Later, once shows are developed at a higher level, they will be submitted to COMEDY EXPRESS TV, COMEDY CENTRAL etc..
The show will involve all of the follwoing: parodies, spoofs, interviews, special effects and animation, and a variety of interesting guests.

About me: I am a writer, a college prof. of writing, and a standup comedian. I am friends with a large network of talented comedians who want to participate in the show's production.

This show WILL BE FUNNY AND WILL BE DIFFERENT AND IS LIKELY TO GET NOTICED. This is a great opportunity to get involved in a production at its inception.

Ideally, the camera operator will have an XL1, but if not that is okay too.

In the future, I may be able to pay the camera operator a small salary 5-10 dollars an hour.




* this is in or around Manhattan
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: No pay now; in future may be at least 5-10 dollars an hour




Wow...what a heavy hitter.....5 to 10 bucks an hour, MAYBE. But first you have to prove yourself by working for nothing. Oh, and he's got alot of power comedian friends....just so you know. I'm assuming this is one of his jokes.

Oh, and he has the balls to call 5 - 10 bucks an hour "salary".

James Emory January 20th, 2006 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marks

Wow...what a heavy hitter.....5 to 10 bucks an hour, MAYBE. But first you have to prove yourself by working for nothing. Oh, and he's got alot of power comedian friends....just so you know. I'm assuming this is one of his jokes.

Oh, and he has the balls to call 5 - 10 bucks an hour "salary".

Forgive him for he does not know!

James Emory January 20th, 2006 06:19 PM

HOT new..... This could be......

"Xx Xxxx Xx X Xxxxx Film Works in conjunction with a popular Atlanta radio station is currently seeking professional, dependable, and reliable Final Cut Pro Editors, Web Designers, Graphic Artist and Video Tape Loggers for a HOT new TV show. Presently the position is on a volunteer/intern basis and there is no compensation. However, the opportunity could lead to a fulltime position and/or production credits. If you are interested and available to volunteer your services…please email your resume and availability to........"


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