Two for the price of one. First, truly ridiculous:

"Houston's 1st BURLESQUE Troupe, Concrete Rose Cabaret, is looking for a VERY talented videographer to make their promo reel!

We are looking for someone who can video our dancers as they perform each choreographed number and then combine and edit the footage into a cutting edge, eye catching 3 minute reel.

This reel will be seen by top execs at SXSW, The Buzz Fest, Warp Tour, The Winter Music Conference, and will also be showcased in a month long art gallery show!

This is a huge opportunity for you to get your name out there and to be seen by very important people in the industry!

For more info look us up at www.myspace.concreterosecabaret.com b/c our website is currently undergoing a major revamp!

* Job location is Houston, TX
* Compensation: Up to $50 depending on your experience- EXPOSURE
* no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
* no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
* no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK."


fifty dollars! AWESOME!

And now:

"Reply to: see below
Date: 2006-01-04, 11:49AM CST


High pressure, big rewards, giant adventure.

Multi-talented, open minded, flexible, motivated on-air correspondent/
videographer needed.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Travel the United States with a
camera and a producer. You will hone your eye as a cameraman while sharpening
your acting and communication skills as on-air talent working for the wine
and spirits industry.

As a correspondent (on-air talent) you will be required to ad-lib while
interviewing people. You must genuinely like to talk to people and have an
uncanny ability to put people at ease in front of the camera. You will be
required to open and close episodes without the use of copy; improvisation
skills are required.

As a cameraman you must have a firm understanding of composition, truly enjoy
shooting as much as being in front of the camera, have a working knowledge of
digital cameras, 3-point lighting and have a steady hand.

Physically: You must be a healthy male, able to withstand traveling for long
periods of time, between the ages of 25-35 years old (PLEASE do not respond
if you are under 25 years old we CANNOT hire people under 25), clean-cut, yet
hip.

We are looking for a motivated individual who loves adventure,
troubleshooting, is able to stay cool and organized under pressure and can be
on the road for the majority of the year.

Familiarity with motor sports racing is a major plus but not necessary.

Weekly salary, per diem and a completion bonus.

Clean driving record, background checks required.

Please send one DVD with your shooting and on-camera reel, plus a resume and
3 personal/3 professional references to:

Sharp Left
ATTN: On-air Camera
630 9th Avenue, Suite 208
New York, NY 10036

Deadline for applications: January 17, 2006

This is a non-union job opportunity.

* Job location is USA
* Compensation: Weekly salary, per diem and completion bonus
* no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
* no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
* yes -- Reposting this message elsewhere is OK."

Instead of hiring a camera and talent. . .let's just combine the two! Because, you know, the chances that the person who's good at acting is also a brilliant cameraman. . .why, there must be millions of those! And, it is, of course, easy as hell to compose a shot that you can't see. . .'cause you're in it! Why WOULDN'T this be a great idea? I should just remove this post right now.

That IS ridiculous, because the way they worded it appears to put them in violation of discrimination laws.

I don't know what to say about this except that if the demos are any indication of the top performers.......well, see for yourself.

"Check out this website for all the details:

www.hotandfunny.com

No previous experience in acting or modeling required. You just need to be hot, know a couple funny jokes and can get yourself on tape to show us that you’re Hot and Funny.

Top prize: $2,500 to the Hottest and Funniest person who sends in a video.

The first 25 people from the Atlanta area who send in a video that we use will get a free Hot and Funny T-shirt. Just include a copy of this ad with your video.

DEADLINE FOR VIDEO SUBMISSIONS: FRIDAY JANUARY 27TH, 2006

For more information, write to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

Are you really not allowed to discriminate when hiring? Isn't that whole thing conditional? i mean if you're lookin' for young people, you're lookin' for young people, etc.

I saw an ad for a job as a camera guy (broadcast three cam shoots) at a church, and one requirement was being a Christian (I'm a bad Jew).

Some people on craigslist have said when the see Production jobs that don't pay, they volunteer and then don't show up.

There are people who honestly don't know what things cost. I've explained to them if they don't pay their crew enough people will jump ship to higher paying gigs. Also that in most cases one should give a deposit to hold people.

In one recent case after explaining this the potential client was willing to pay me $90/hr instead of $25/hr.

If it's no pay it's clearly a ripoff but with low pay I respond with an online link to my relevant demo and my rate (with explanation working on the assumption they just don't know). I think it works 1 time in 10 but you get a client who appreciates your professionalism.

So is this person "confused?" <grin>
You provide labor and Super 16mm package for EIGHTEEN DAYS! NO PAY! A list actors and award winning director and NO FUNDING even for the camera!


Camera Operator with own Super 16mm pkg.

Reply to: gigs-123079935@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-06, 9:58AM EST


Looking for a camera operator / 2nd shooter with his/her own Super 16mm package for an 18 day shoot for a full feature film. The film features a number of A list actors, and the director is an award winner who has a great deal of experience. This is a great opportunity for those who are looking to work on a movie that has more than a great chance of being picked up. No pay, possibility of deferred payement upon sale of film.

Please email resumes to the address supplied (no attachments, paste resume in body of email) or submit by fax to 734.939.4128

And now for something completely ridiculous
 

4-5 days shooting including camera, light, etc. All editing, DVD design and mastering. $1500 and only upon "successful" completion.

Cameraman/ Editor/ DVD Author
Reply to: gigs-123466405@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-07, 6:37PM EST

We are looking to make an exercise DVD.
Applicant must supply camera, lights, etc.
The shoot will take 4-5 days.
Experience a must.
* yes -- it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: $ 1,500 only upon successful completion of the project.

I sent them a realistic bid and the explanation that it would be a contract with 1/3 upfront, 1/3 for shoot, 1/3 by delivery after approval. They sent this even more absurd demand back with a 5% penalty per DAY for missing the due date!

Dear Applicant,
Prior to conducting an interview, we would like to under line our conditions.

Please review them and decide if you would like to proceed.
1. The shoot will take 4-5 days.
2. The shoot will take place on Saturday or Sunday, once a week.
3. The material must be edited and presented prior to additional shooting, every week.
4. Full payment will be given on the completion of the project.
5. Missed due date will result in 5% deduction per day late.

We are looking for someone confident in his/her skills to complete this project.

Thank you

This job offer isn't ridiculous in the same sense others have been. It's certainly one of the STRANGEST I've seen. Hmmm, I wonder what they have in mind?

Three Women Looking for Male PA - DOCUMENTARY

Reply to: gigs-124097378@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-10, 8:53AM EST

We are three artistic women making a documentary about the search for the perfect House Personal Assistant. The chosen candidate will run errands and accomplish small tasks such as mailings, cleaning, possible cooking and possible research and other tasks. In exchange you will gain insight into the female psyche including advice regarding shopping, dating, relationships, fashion and more.

We are planning on documenting the entire process on video. We will ask for approximately 5-10 hours of your time per week, hours are extremely flexible.

Include a brief personal bio and work background and tell us why you are interested in this position.
Photos are encouraged, but not required.
this is in or around Astoria, Queens
Compensation: One hour of your time for one hour of our time.

Ok, but, see, maybe if the male PA plays his cards right. . .

This was in the TV/Film Jobs on Craig's List. They must really be getting desperate for members to use this tactic. I wonder why they didn't mention making people stars, producers and directors since it was in this category. I guess that comes later, after you're converted.

"Are you tired of looking for a job and getting no where? We understand how hard it is to get work in an economy that is failing. We are in the business of assisting Blacks, Hispanics and Asians to make a better way for their families and themselves. Employment is a vital part of keeping our communities together.

We will equip you with a professional resume, interview training and employment opportunities.

* Retail
* Administration
* Accounting
* Sales
* Labor
* Work From Home
* Modeling
* Marketing

Whatever skill you have, we can increase your chances of success. Our services are absolutely "FREE." Knowing that we are helping build a stronger Atlanta is good enough for us.

In order to qualify for our services you must:

* Have a Valid Driver's License or ID
* A Physical Address
* Access to a Telephone
* Dependable
* Trustworthy
* Attend This Sunday's Mosque Meeting at Muhammad's Mosque No. 15 Under the Leadership of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

That is all we request. You must attend this upcoming mosque meeting. The reason is because we want to be on a spiritual level with everyone involved. The teaching of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan motivates people of color to master their circumstances and properly handle people. This is the basis of what we what to see Atlanta thrive in. This opportunity isn’t directly affiliated with the mosque or the Nation of Islam but the embodiment of their principles can help us elevate our minds as will as our conditions.

So call Bro. Joseph Xxxxxxxx @ xxx.xxx.xxxx for instructions on attending this Sunday’s meeting so we can meet and greet. At the end of the meeting you will get an employment application and a date and time to register for the employment services."

No experience required but please write a short essay of your background experience. She's going to shoot a film 5 days from this post and nothing is secured. Who keeps letting these people out of the facility unsupervised?!

"I need someone with their own equipment (digital camcorder is fine). Extensive experience is not needed-film students’ welcome. I am producing/directing my first short film (more information about the film under Gigs: Talent: ”ACTRESS NEEDED for short film…” posted 1/9).

I am not a film student, nor have I ever been. I am a writer, and I have a vision for a short film, that is WRITTEN out, and broken down into scenes...and ready to be shot. I will be directing, but have a really good idea of what I want (scene by scene, visually, etc.), and am very easy to work with.

Tentative shooting date: THIS SATURDAY, January 14th from approximately 9am-4pm



What I need from you:

• Camera and equipment

• Availability on the shooting day (it’s tentative because me and the male lead are available then. BUT I am still looking for a female lead, and a camera person (you).

• No experience is needed (though some would be great).

• Please tell me (informally; short paragraph is fine) about your experience/education as a camera person/DP, and why you would like to work on this project...honesty please

• PLEASE LEAVE A NAME & A NUMBER WHERE I CAN CONTACT YOU (and the best time to call).

Thanks!"

What happens if I show up at that mosque one?

Darn! I am going to Boston area this weekend for Liquid University learn-in, so I will have to skip it. ;)

Production Assistants needed for all night Rap Music Video Shoot Friday January 13th.
This is a major artist for a major labe!!!!

Compensation: experience

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What's a major labe? Have you noticed the people who put this kind of trash on Craigslist have no abilities to type whatsoever?

At least this poster isn't looking for a camera person. Just a goon.

Talk about being up sh!t creek without a paddle!

That part about two other editors quitting probably shouldn't have been mentioned publicly. Inquiries ought to drop to zero now. I wonder why they quit. This is sure to be a deadlock now if they can't find somone willing to work without a deposit and they won't pay one because of what happened. No pay until completion is a slippery situation for an unknown company because it is synonymous with and just screams possible shadiness.

"Looking for an editor using FCP or Avid to complete the editing for an independent movie shot in 2003. The pay for this project can be negotiated based on experience and amount of time you are able to spend on the project. Although no payment is given until the project is complete. This only a precaution after dealing with two separate editors that left the project after partial payment. We will supply you all Mini-DV tapes and a script. Please contact us with a resume and contact number to reach you at..."

WOW! A first for me. Just above this ad (I know where James got it), there was one that actually pays well. Just wow, what a shock for a change.

Rap videos, from what I hear, are notorious for dangerous/abusive working conditions--insane hours, drive bys (for real), etc.

True story---

A group was shooting a video in Houston, and at some point, some dudes drove by, and some other dudes were on set in a car, and the two groups exchanged words, gunshots were fired, someone got it in the face, and everybody quickly left the set.

So, really that ad is No/Low, but has a $10k hazardous duty pay rider.

Downtown Indianapolis Picture Taker Needed!
 

Arrrggghh! The nerve!
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This is great part-time work. We have (5) hotels in downtown Indianapolis that need digital pictures taken each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. This route pays $50 per week total. Must have digital camera, reliable
transportation and internet service. Please provide contact information.

Position starts as soon as possible!

Only serious and interested applicants need respond.
Compensation: This route pays $50 per week total.
---------------

It's kind of scary, like they are stalking someone or something. Hmm....

job offer for "sick" videographers?!
 

here is a job offer out of the sfo craiglist....lol

Creative Videographer Wanted to Trade 5 Minute Video For Healing

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Reply to: gigs-124813243@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-12, 1:25PM PST


I'm an internationally known healer and author and I need a 5-minute video cut from some new footage to be shot and footage I already have of myself working in the operating room. I charge $250 an hour for my healing sessions and would be willing to offer you twenty healing sessions for the work.


this is in or around Bay Area

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

So I guess they should have no problem paying $100 an hour for the video.

I'm still waiting for the lawyer who'll ask you to shoot video depositions for free and in return he'll take care of your bankruptcy case.

Wana know why you keep getting under bid
 

Can I hire him out at that rate and in return I'll let him use the material for his reel. I'll make a bundle charging the client really low rates. Heck if he has a Cine Alta I'll burn the DVDs for him!


FREE EDITING

Reply to: gigs-125086400@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-13, 3:29PM EST


I WILL EDIT UP TO 10 COMPANIES VIDEO FOR FREE AS LONG AS YOU ALOW ME TO US IN A ONLINE/CD/DVD PORTFOLIO.IF INTERESTED PLEASE REPLY.

Ok, got a whopper:

"Crewing up for Ground-breaking film (Camera/DP , Sound, PR/Marketing)

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Reply to: gigs-125199379@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-13, 11:30PM EST


Get ready for greatness. Back East Productions is producing a feature length movie in just 30 days, and we are looking for people to help us shoot and record sound.

More specifically, we need a shooter with their own mini-dv camera with a good "film look" (like the Panasonic DVX 100A). Please have a reel. We only have a few days to make a decision. Also, we need someone to record sound during the shoot. Must be knowledgeable about recording sound in tricky conditions (i.e. dealing with urban sounds).

We also need someone who can promote our project. We have a very marketable project here: a movie produced in a month by a couple who is planning their wedding... and we have day jobs.

We are offering deferred payment/profit sharing. There is a lot of buzz about our project as people are really taken by the ambition of our project. We have amazing actors who will make us all look good, and a compelling story for them to utilize.

Check out backeastproductions.com to see our production blog so far and to learn more about our project.

You see, my approach to this project is to cast BEFORE the script is written. I think it would be easier to tailor a script to the talent available, rather than write a script and comb the Earth trying to find talent to match the characters. I’m betting that I’ll find a story derived from the inspiration of the casting process. So after auditions, I’ll craft a script based around a small group of actors with parts written just for them.

Put another way, we started this having no idea what the story is. Genre? Not a clue. Two weeks later, we have a script and are shooting next week!

We begin our 4-day shoot beginning on January 20.

Tentative schedule
Auditions: Thursday night, Jan 5 and Saturday morning, Jan 7
Script: Jan 7-Jan 12
Rehearse/Re-write/Improv- Friday, Jan 13-Thursday, Jan 19 (night and weekends)
Shoot: Friday, Jan 20 – Monday, Jan 23. 4 day shoot, so give notice to your boss!
Edit: Tuesday Jan 24-Jan31

I’m certain we’ll have a very marketable product, from the talent involved in the production, to the novelty and ambition of the production process. "

It doesn't say it's unpaid (does it?) But come on. . .we all know it is.

They've got it all figured out don't they! Just another example of these mentally ill people who think they are a major studio with a complete staff including production, marketing and distribution. Oh, we're going to do this and that, and well, hopefully we'll have the money, well, we'll worry about that later.

Come on Josh, now you know that deferred means unpaid! Just look it up in your indie translation book.

Why the crap on production boards thrives!
 

At first I felt sorry for this person but near the end that went straight out the window! I have italicized the reason. This person must have just fallen off the grip truck yesterday. $25 is not that much but when you multiply that by 100, no, 50 suckers, that's not a bad day's work. This person didn't pay it to say that it's sometimes acceptable. Unbelievable folks!

"City Hall East, a so called "Law and Order" type crime drama is a scam. At the least, highly unprofessional and disrespectful in how they deal with actors. I wrote them requesting an audition as instructed on their website. They wrote back and said they would schedule one for tomorrow morning. But then, after I turned down other work that I really needed to support my family (most of us have to moonlight at other things), they wrote back to give me further directions and instructions that I would have to pay $25 for the golden opportunity. I tried to explain that if this were the case, they should wave the fee in my case because of the reasons I have mentioned. They wrote back giving me some bull about how the things in life that are worth anything are worth paying for. When I said I wouldn't mind paying if I had it but don't and that they should do the right thing by keeping their original commitment (which didn't mention pay)they warned me that I had better not make waves if I ever wanted the chance to audition for them in the future. Oh, and by the way, they had already told me this was the last opportunity to do so.

I originally said that I wouldn't mind paying if I had it because it was the best I could do to try to make the most of what I had left (after turning down another gig). But the truth of the matter is that talent should never have to pay to do such a thing. It was never explained why they needed it or if they are truely a reputabale and legit company. It is true that it sometimes takes money to make money and this is something we do when we put our hard earned money into lessons, headshots and such. But this sort of thing is just parasitic and there is not even any evidence that they are a true production. They originally said that the auditions were going to be one of their offices around town and they are actually having people go to a night club to do them.

If indie film makers sometimes need to take an innovative approach to producing there work, I don't see anything absolutely wrong with asking certain talent they are working with to make sacrifices (if the talent doesn't mind doing so)if they are going to be considered a partner of some kind (even for just a small %). This is not the case with this production who is claiming to be a full fledged television series and who is not offering anything for the $25 they ask for except that you will be on their good side or won't be labed a pariah by them for not having the funds. This does not asure you a role or that they even exist as a production company. And so where is your hard earned money going? This, coupled with the fact that they are not even willing to wave one fee based on (at best) a mistake they made, is even further indication that they are nothing more than a scam. Quality artists, don't waste your time.

Always remember the numerous cases of actors who struggled for years before others recognized them and also the thousand of hopefuls who pay tons of money on image, plastic surgery, and this sort of bribing, yet who can't act their way out of a paper bag"

Sorry, I missed that "deferred" bit when I read it.

Poor bastard. Thank. . .cussing cuss curse we're not actors. Eh?

The majority of pay on a deferred project? I wonder where the other part will come from on a deferred project? The majority of pay will come with selling of film just like the majority of pay for a cook at McDonald's comes from selling hamburgers. Interesting concept.

The fact that they have several offers makes me feel a whole lot better, whew!

This is the best part: The deferred pay, the pay your not going to get, is possibly $100 / day.

"Looking for film crew to shoot low budget film - majority of pay will come with selling of film (we already have several offers) Must be Good at what you do - need to be available for 2 full weeks - Meals included. Shooting dates will be Feb 7th - 21st

this is in or around Xxxxxxx

Compensation: Deferred - Possible $100 p/ day"

Kinda off topic--

How come they always say "serious applicants only".

Am I going to apply as a joke (well, some of you people might)?

Yeah, but see, if you have big serious dreams, you don't want the naive, even if they are more pliable, on your project.

I dunno, I wouldn't trust someone too much that I wasn't paying unless it was a collaboration with a longtime friend. But I'd treat 'em reaaaaaaaaal good. Cause they got no reason to stay.

I guess this isn't that crazy. . .but it's certainly ambitious for not paying--

Hey, guess who doesn't work for free? Key Grips, FX people, fight choreographers. I don't know about the rest. I guess if they'll take anyone, then no big whoop, seriously, why would anyone with enough experience to call themselves a Key grip, for instance, do this?

"Reply to: aktsfilm@yahoo.com
Date: 2006-01-15, 2:59AM CST


Hello All,
From the Flames Productions is currently in Pre-production for a
30-minute short romantic comedy that will be shot in the Austin area.
We are seeking experienced crewmembers. We are in need of:

Asst. fight choreographer
Gaffer assistant
Key grip
Sound tech
FX makeup artist- someone with knowledge of liquid latex, adhesives, and prosthetics.
Production assistants
Continuity person- some one with a very good eye for details.
Craft services- someone who can assist me in the kitchen with catering meals for the cast and crew during the shoots.
Cameraman who has experience with the canon XL series cameras,
Wardrobe/props manager.

We are also in need of a very talented seamstress, who can make custom dress for a fairy/goddess character.


WE NEED still photographers who will document the production process for us.
(If you respond for photographer, please attach some examples of your work.
We will also need a storyboard artist (if you respond for story board artist, please attach some examples of your work, and let me know how quick you are)

We are also seeking local bands that would like a chance to be featured
on the soundtrack.

We will consider RTF students in their Jr. and Sr. year who are looking
to add to their resume.

This short film will be entered into multiple film festivals in 2006
and 2007.

We will be filming on WEEKENDS in February and possibly March.
Please submit Resumes, Reels and Demos to aktsfilm@yahoo.com

Also, if you have questions please feel free to contact me at the same
email address.
Compensation: A copy of the finished DVD, screen credit, credit and a
listing on the website, a link to a resume or approved website, and the
chance to have their talent highlighted in the film festival circuit.
This film will be listed on IMDB, and will be listed with the WGA.
This is a low budget short, so there will not be any monetary
compensation.
Take care,
Robin Blesch
Producer


* this is in or around Austin, TX"

4 hours max? Well that makes me feel better. No, wait a minute, that's just for the hours of shooting not including editing. Oh, I get to do that for free? Ok, thanks!

"Professional Videographer needed for an event to be held Monday Jan. 30th.

Filming will last for at least 3 hours. Must be able to produce High-Quality video & also finished edited product. Digital equipment perferred be not required.

Must have previous work experience (video) to submit as examples.

The job pays $25 per hour with 3 hour minimum & 4 hour max. :)

For more info feel free to call Xxxxxxxxxxx or respond to email below."