This person is so big and successful he can't afford to pay for a good demo?
I can charge close to a grand shooting and editing a "bar" band performance as they pursue the big fish.

Oh and you get to be a "front runner" because after shooting with the DVX100 they'll hire you over an experienced "varican" person with years of experience (shooting for free?).

. . . . I had no idea Michael Jackson, Beyonce and Lil Kim didn't pay their producers! Poor, Poor Quincy Jones!
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Camera person, Editor, and Storyboard Artist

Reply to: tkme2heaven@yahoo.com
Date: 2006-08-03, 6:01PM EDT


We are in need of a camera person, editor and storyboard artist for a music video. The video is for a signed artist and will serve as a demo for a creative and risky concept he's bringing to his record label. This is the singer's first venture as a solo artist, but he's produced records for Michael Jackson, Beyonce, and Lil Kim.

The shoot is scheduled for the weekend of August 12 - 13th at 2 different locations. Mostly, the entire video takes place in a single room.

Camera person's need to provide their own digital camera. We will provide compensation for all tapes. Editors need to have access to their editing suite, and/or software and computers, etc.

This is not a paid job, but if the song and video concept is approved by the record company you will be front-runners for the paid positions on the reshoot.

Those better be some darn good cookies! 3 Days. What is Woodstock happening again?
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Looking for camera

Reply to: gigs-190245472@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-04, 9:01PM EDT


We are looking to borrow a video camera August 10-13th.

Our friends band will be in a music festival and we would love to record the preformance for them.
...we're just missing the camera part.

We can leave a deposite, or barter, it's up to you!

Please help us out!
Thanks!

ps we will bake you cookies:)

Does saying LOW BUDGET somehow justify this? $50 for a half day. If someone things red carpet VIP is important then it's worth paying for.

I think I'm going to post and ad that says:

MUGGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you have 35mm or Thomson Viper? Please shoot my Hollywood movie. $100 plus a copy of the commercially released DVD.
Please leave me your house keys and car keys (if you have a Lexus).

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video camera person


Reply to: gigs-190268812@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-04, 10:21PM EDT


LOW BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you have a professional video camera?

I need a camera person for 4 - 5 hours SATURDAY AUGUST 5TH
at 6PM
You will not be shooting that whole time
This is a red carpet v.i.p. industry event.
pay 50.00
please email ASAP
leave name and number

And you just KNOW NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX are chomping at the bit for a syndicated underground music show.

Anybody for a reality show "Who wants to be an underground musician?"
Judges are Brian Eno, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nico (special guest dead judge).
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Need Camera Op for Warped Tour This Sunday (Union Square)

Reply to: gigs-190289148@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-04, 11:33PM EDT


We are shooting a new underground music show that we are shopping around to different networks in NYC that already has a buzz. We are a group of freelancers that put this show together casue we love what we do and want to make our own decisions for our furture.. if you love underground music and you are always finding out about new bnads first before your friends get in touch with us.. If this sound like what your looking for please contact us with what camera you have perfer Panasonic DVX-100 or A.

www.MorseCodeProductions.com

How is this an internship?
There's a "corporation" involved?
Someone will pay the "intern" to go to Las Vegas for final competition.
Translation - Comedy competition - who can get people to do a stupid thing for no money. If you turn out to be the "winner" your next challenge will be to take the "trip" to Las Vegas - On Foot - to video the final.
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Intern needed to video comedy competition

Reply to: gigs-190228169@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-04, 8:09PM EDT


Intern needed to video a national comedy competition Monday noon -3

Although there is no financial compensation there is potential for freelance and permanent work with the corporation, as well as possibility of trip to Las Vegas for final competition.

this is in or around NY Improv
yes -- it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: professional credits

Honestly folks. Do people really respond to this garbage? Can someone actually dupe someone into working half a day for no money or $50. Will people really lend me their camera for nothing?

Maybe we need our own Ridiculous Job Offers/Demands Challenge. Sort of our own "reality show" contest.

We come up with ads equal to or better than these and post the best ones on craigslist and see who responds. We have to post the responses here. Now obviously they can't be so over the top that everyone sees right through it. The objective is how far can we push it. Maybe two catagories for an ad that gets the most responses and another for how far we can push it and still get a response.

OK so 1) you need rights to shoot the wraped tour ANYTHING on the warped tour, the good relaxed people at VANS will sue you so quickly your spikey haired head will spin around your choke coller. 2) they already have a dvx100a if you look at there website 3) they charge 45 bucks an hour for an FCP editing suite but they can't afford to pay you?

Craig,


I'm down with that idea. In fact, I suggested it a little while ago, but didn't get much of a response. Good to see I'm not the only one wondering who takes jobs like these!

Was this one of you guys?
 

This was great! At least they're honest with what you'll be getting into!


Marietta automotive ad agency seeks full-time video editor/camera-person
with creative flair and unrivaled capacity for mind-numbing detail to shoulder
unrealistic deadlines in a tiny office. Position also includes regular travel
to exotic locations like Johnson City, TN.

REQUIRED:
Proficient in Final Cut Pro, amazing hand-held camera skills, and an eye for the eye-catching.
Applicants must also be.. oh never mind.

ADDITIONAL HELPFUL EXPERIENCE:
short form video projects, event videography, field directing, and the ability to suppress your
highly developed sense of the nuanced ironies in the world around you.

ADDITIONAL HELPFUL SOFTWARE KNOWLEDGE:
ProTools or Soundtrack Pro, Motion, Photoshop

Job location is Marietta
Compensation: based on experience and qualifications; probably 25K-35K with opportunities for advancement
no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK.

Just curious, not to be a dink,


But writing aside, is the offer that bad? You won't own the gear, you'll have benefits, and it's smaller market (I'm assuming. . .maybe I'm not very worldly, not having heard of Marietta). It sounds sort of like an entry-mid level position.

Marrietta is part of Atlanta. And you can't afford to buy a cardboard box on a street corner there for 25K. They also want someone who can shoot, edit and do graphics. Seems pretty low to me. I'd stick with the freelance stuff and let them pay me what I'm worth.

Oh. My bad.

Sounds good to me, except for my inability to supress anything.

All I have to say is "WTF?" I don't think the ad is vague enough.

"Looking for a HUNGRY qualified video production company
Reply to: job-192884997@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-11, 12:03PM CDT


I'm looking for a small, hungry video production company that has suitable equipment for shooting outdoors, and suitable post production editing equipment. I really need a little company that has a lightweight camera boom - boom with camera on it that would allow birds-eye and ground level shots. I need the right Tool - that would be the production company, so I can start talking to the other players in the ad hoc consortium I'm putting together. If this works out, we'd could easily do it again in the next city and the city after that. Texas first, though.
Money? Sure...once the thing really gets rolling. This project MUST show profitable return on investment. You must be paid, period.

* Job location is Houston
* Compensation: This thing won't go if investors aren't online. One of the investors might be the City of Houston. No...nothing final just yet.
* This is a contract job.
* no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
* no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
* yes -- Reposting this message elsewhere is OK."

Here's someone who'll never get a job! This is NYC and the neighborhood one of the most expensive (millionaires) in the city. I shoot and edit reporter demo reels at $50/hr and I consider my rates LOW. I know folks who do this at $100-$150/hr since it's a specialty. I know of no EXPERIENCED news cutter who'd cut a package at anything close to the price they're asking. I guess this is the kind of person who'd hand in a resume on a napkin to save printing costs.

Yes, I sent them a response with my rates and links to demos including the demo for the women who's now weekend anchor at a local station and had NO previous on air experience.

_________________________________

Seeking Editor for Reel (Upper West Side)

Reply to: gigs-195434078@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-17, 4:30PM EDT


Seeking editor for reporter reel. Must have experience putting together news packages. Please contact me via email with your resume or brief bio, links (if available) and a contact phone number.

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: $50

cram this in your stocking:

"Wedding Videographer Needed
Reply to: job-195567447@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-17, 9:24PM CDT


I need a videographer for my wedding on 4/28/07. I would like 2 copies of the ceremony and reception on DVD. The ceremony will begin at 7 PM and the reception will end around 12 AM. I would like for you to have wireless microphones for the ceremony. I don't think you will need to stay around till the end, just for all of the traditional stuff. I'm looking to pay around $200-$300 including editing. If you want to develop your portfolio, I would like you to be my videographer. Please no amateurs. I would like the video to be somewhat decent. Please e-mail me how much you would like to be paid and what camera you will be using. If you have a website, please send the link as well. Thanks!

* Job location is Galleria
* Compensation: ~$300
* no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
* no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
* no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK."

Isn't that a major contridiction?

Yeah, but when your'e a clown, you don't tend to notice those things in your own writing.

Thanks for the laughs Josh! That's great.

How's this for stupid!. A production company that has no crew or gear to produce anything. She claim to be a make up artist who "owns" a production company. She's a "celebrity make-up artist" but has no money to produce a demo. The taping will only be used for "professional" use. Oh, good, I thought it might be for amature use justifying the lack of budget. You can get an edited tape! You might get future work as an editor. Hmm, who's editing this tape?

Why I'm a producer too. I only need equipment, crew, money, and a brain. I've got the make-up person though. Geez!

_______________

Videographer needed

Reply to: gigs-195981698@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-18, 9:42PM EDT


Hello, I am a celebrity make-up artist and owner of a production company. On Monday, August 21, 2006 from 7PM-10PM I will need someone to shoot an on camera make-up workshop. 5 models will be filmed individually getting their makeup done by me. Each application shouldn't take longer than 20-30 minutes. The objective is to teach women the proper application of make-up, while giving industry tips on proper skin care. A preliminary treatment has been given to a local beauty network, so the workshops will be shopped around to other networks and uploaded to my new company web site. This taping will be used for professional use only. Shooting will take place in a studio on west 36th street.

A fun, yet professional videographer is needed. Beginners feel free to apply. You will need to have your own camera with tripod, basic light attached and 2 lav mics. An assistant will be provided. If you need tape stock that can be provided too.
There is no pay, but you will be provided with a gorgeous edited tape for your promotional use. Because this is a new small production company, there is a strong possibility for paid work as a shooter/editor in the near future. If interested, please contact me via e-mail above. Thank you.
Brooke

this is in or around NYC
no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: Edited tape or DVD

And you need 2 lav mics...

I would post some Atlanta stuff, but "someone" (I can think of a suspect, but I am probably wrong) has been reporting them and counter-posting on what a ripoff they are.

Your basic craigslist post. I wonder if when he says "from my DVD feature" he means he only has it on DVD. With my, and most basic PC systems its a serious pain to go from DVD back to an editable format.

------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello. I'm an actor looking for an editor to copy scenes from my DVD feature film to another DVD. Looking for at least five copies. I can pay you only $30. Put "Actor's Reel" in the heading.



no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: $30

I honestly can't imagine who responds to ads like this. As Matt notes, it's a minor pain to do this. It's not even of much value for a newbie to do. It's not like you even get credit and material for your reel. He wants "at least" 5 copies for that price!

Well, you don't need your own equipment but they're looking for 8 consecutive days at $5/hr !!!! Do the math.
They DO want to see your reel. MickyDs pays more and doesn't ask to see my past burgers.
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Cameraman/Camerawoman needed Sept 8-15 (Midtown)

Reply to: fashion.recruitment@gmail.com
Date: 2006-08-24, 2:41PM EDT


New York based fashion company is looking to hire a cameraman/camerawoman from September 8-15 to film runway shows in NYC.
No equipment needed. This is a temporary position. You must commit to the entire 8 days (Sept 8-15) and will be working very long hours, typically 7.30am - 10:30pm.
Students and professionals welcome. $75 a day.

Please send your resume and sample work to fashion.recruitment@gmail.com

Along those same lines . . .
 

Several weeks ago on "Flip this House--San Antonio" real estate investor Armando Montelongo asked his wife to find a San Antonio photographer to do pro bono work for them: Be our photographer, and you'll get GREAT exposure, but we can't (read "won't) pay you. The photographer showed up, did an awesome job, got a pat on the back. The next scene shows Armando pocketing $20K for a couple weeks work. Nice guy, huh?

I NEED ONE CAMERA MAN FOR ONE DAY THAT WANTS TO GET RICH!!!!!!

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Reply to: gigs-198705110@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-25, 11:37AM EDT


I'm a writer for one of the biggest comedy websites. I will only give the name to the camera man that I pick. We get 100,000 visitors a day / celebrity fans / and have been seen everywhere. If I choose you, I will send you a link to the press section with mentions everywhere from Fox News to Maxim magazine. You must have your own camera and be able to shoot on DV. This is for just a one time shoot. You must also be ok with shooting nudity. It's for comedy though. This is not a porno. I have a very limited budget for this, but this could actually lead to a tv show. This will be seen by millions of people a month, including celebrity fans. If I get a show from this, you will get hooked up PERIOD. I don't leave people behind. This is perfect for a college student studying film or anyone that wants to take a chance that can actually lead to something HUGE!!! If you have anything online that I can check out, please send it to me. By the way, as far as camera work goes, this will be a pretty easy day and you'll probably wind up enjoying it. Just don't let the microphone pick up the laughs or I'll kick your tushee!!! I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANYONE THAT DOES NOT LEAVE THEIR PHONE NUMBER!!!!!!!! Thank you : )


this is in or around NYC

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Compensation: $50

Bottom line.....

PAY PEANUTS GET MONKEYS!

i'm amazed to read this thread and see the scale of whats happening in the states....

In Austraila we too are being constantly under cut by "budding cinematographers"- imposters basically....

10 years ago the standard rate for a digi beta cameraman with kit was $1000.... with a dolly or wide angle , add a couple of hundred....
Today networks and production companies are demanding digi beta for $1000 a day including wide angle, dolly and a HMI in your light kit.......

Meanwhile sound recordist rates are on the up ....10 years ago $450..... today .... anything from $450 to $550 plus any extras they may have to use....

I think the way to combat these fuckwits who ask for ridiculous jobs to be done for peanuts is to accept them and then shoot absolute shit. Unusable shit. Out of focus shit. Wobbly shit. Then label the tape " Pay peanuts get monkeys..."

I know we'd like to think they're getting "monkey" work but I fear they're actually getting talent at these prices. I imagine they're getting people just out of college but have been shooting in school for a few years. They get out of school, buy a camera and editing equipment and, desperate for work, take these jobs. Granted these kids don't have experience but I don't doubt some of them are talented. I sure that's why people are asking for reels even at these low rates. You see a newbie with a faux TV spot shot in school, with good camera work and plenty of good After Effects skills and they "bag" 'em for $10/hr.

Well said Craig, no one starts out a genius . You cannot blame a young videographer for taking advantage of technology. Do people expect them to start with panasonic ms4's or hi8 and reel to reel linear editing just cause thats how 'we used to do it'.

I appreciate the sentiment that older videographers have cause I was one of the younger guys 6 years ago in the crossover in the colleges that got trained to use both linear and non linear edit suits, ms4's, Hi8 and digital gear.

It's the same as ever, talent shows through. If your good it will show no matter what your shooting on.Granted a muppet can get hold of a good camera cheap these days but it's what they shoot that matters.

Andy.

Speak for yourself Andy... some of us started out painting on cave walls ;)

I give you guys respect of course.

Point is technology is gonna get alot more efficient and annoying to the traditional filmmaker.

Andy.

It certainly has... Now I'm airbrushing those cave walls :)

This is someone offering their services:

"All this 150.00/day

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Reply to: gigs-199695977@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-27, 8:40PM EDT


All this with a DP 150.00/day Cash - no deferred.

Canon XL-2
2.5K Luxarc light = to a (6k Hemmi) w/ Highroller stand.
4 1k (2 moles 1 desti 1 arri)
3 650 Arri lights
4 C stands w/6 arms
4 25' stingers

3 Black flags 18"x24"
2 Black flags 18"x12"
1 silk 18"x12"
1 screen 18"x12"

Profogger Smoke machine

Fostex DAT w/ Sony Mic and 14' carbon fiber boom.
2 Shure UHF wireless mics.
3 sound blankets.
TS2 Timecode slate
1 50' XLR combo cable.
3 25' XLR cables

4 10 pound sandbags.
2 25 pound sand bags.

Port 'o jib

Miller Tripod w/ Miller 50 head.
3 Caster Tripod dolly

Wheelchair Dolly.


no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

"

Josh, for someone in Houston, TX you do check out NY Craigslist quite a bit don't you. You beat me to it on this one.

This guy obviously invested many thousands of dollars. That rate probably won't even cover the credit card bill let alone housing rent and food. I doubt one person can even manage all that gear. I can't believe a person who'd buy that much gear is a newbie either. There's a big issue with talented people giving themselves away for work that can't even cover costs.

Certainly there's little room in this market for someone like me who charges $400 a day for just camera, tripod, wireless mic (light kit with assistant is another $200) and I consider my rates LOW.

And because people like the above drive down rates we get cr*p like this.
$25/hr including prime lenses.

And below that someone who needs a Camera Op for the complex HVX200 and the ability to "tweak the lighting" for all of $50 and it's 40 minutes outside the city in addition, IMMEDIATELY.

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need d.p. for spec spot

Reply to: gigs-199622586@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-27, 5:26PM EDT


individual is seeking a d.p. for a spec spot this week must have own eq digital - dv -hd camera and some prome lenes - please send samples of work and also contact info for consideration

this is in or around nyc
yes -- it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: $100 for 4 hrs


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CAM OP needed IMMEDIATELY

Reply to: gigs-199715871@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-08-27, 9:39PM EDT


Thats right...I'm talking RIGHT NOW.
if you can run a panasonic HVX200 with a firestore we need you right now!
we missed ONE important shot for our feature length film and need a quick reshoot.
the equipment all goes back in the morning so we really want to shoot this tonight!.

you would need to assemble camera, tweak the lighting and roll ONE shot and get payed 50 dollars for your time and effort.

If you can drive to location that is a plus, but not necessary. otherwise you will need to take a bus.

location is in parlin, nj about 40 minutes from the city.

You could always send your resume with your actual rates. They may go for it.

Unionize! I say, Unionize!

Yeah, I was thinking of moving to NYC a few years ago 'cause of my lady, so I (foolishly) started looking for stuff on there. At some point, I think I came across that whole debacle about the supposed criminal, and how IATSE was monitoring the site, etc. etc., and now I check it almost daily just for kicks.

Don't let Capt Quirk pull your leg. He is printing clipart from his computer on paper, cutting it out, and spraypainting it with a can of Krylon.

I was doing cut and paste, when you literally cut out pictures, paste them with glue, and print with a drum mimeograph..