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"i need some help for a month or less

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Reply to: gigs-284249267@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-25, 12:17AM CST


ok, i need someone who speaks quintanese (sorry if i spelled it wrong) and english (without an accent). i also need someone who has some free time and is good with computers. i have a very complex job for someone that can do it, i need a spy that will pretend not to know me and actually work for me so that i can find out whats going on in my company.. theres gossip and letters that i need to get to the bottom of.. i will read all email responses and/or meet in person if i need to but i want to get everything straight before i move out of town.




it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: negotiable


PostingID: 284249267
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I dunno, an F900 doesn't work well as a spy camera...oh he's not asking for one? Sorry I was so used to seeing that...

Do Ridiculous low ballers count?
 

A 2 maned camera wedding shot and edited for $500 in NYC no less! He'd probably have to book/shoot/edit 6-8 weddings a month just to cover his costs. I should contact him and ask what cameras he's using because I may be interested in them when he has to sell them to pay the rent and credit card bill. He must be borrowing a car too because he certainly can't make the monthly payments or a weekend rental at those prices. Of course they're likely to have very high hours plus he'd be using them as decks too.
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SUMMER WEDDING? BOOK YOUR VIDEOGRAPHER

Reply to: serv-285251432@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-26, 10:17PM EST


Attention all June, July and August Brides...The time is now to start thinking about booking a wedding videographer for your wedding. The closer it gets to the warm weather the harder it will become to book a videographer who will give you good quality work at a price you can afford.

I am a videographer and will give you a quality video at a price that won't break your budget.

My package includes:

Up to eight hours of filming
Two manned cameras to film your wedding and reception
Editing using State of the Art Software.
Two edited DVD's.

PRICE: $500.00

Please email me for demos.

Thank you and Congratulations!

This is exactly the kind of cr*p that shouldn't be permitted. He's offering "credit, copy" on "Commercial, Corporate/Industrial" !!!! Of course you need to supply YOUR OWN edit system (computer and software costing thousands of dollars)!
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***** Director seeks NEW EDITORS (Students welcomed) (Upper East Side)

Reply to: gigs-286493293@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-03-01, 5:40AM EST


Director with projects in post-production seeks:

Asst. Editor
Editing Intern
Editor

Must have portable Final Cut Pro editing station or FCP Desktop.

Present projects: Commercial, Corporate/Industrial.

Future projects: Movie, Music Video, Instructional Film, TV Pilot


******************************************************************
For present projects you get: CREDIT, COPY within 14 days.

For future projects: We'll discuss terms upon completion of 1st projects.

This isn't that special, but hey:



Experienced DP Needed
Reply to: submissions@kolentertainment.com
Date: 2007-02-28, 12:54PM CST


I need a DP for reality tv show. HD cams perfered.




* Compensation: $100-125/day
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

THEY DO RESPOND to THIS LIST!!
 

I was just emailed by a producer to explain their position. They saw comments I made in this forum. Keep in mind this forum may become an educational tool on what we expect and why and why their ads may create misunderstandings.


Producer said they get paid $175 for a 12 hour day. I'm sympathetic because I know young people trying to break in to this biz often get way underpaid
BUT
The camera person has maybe $5000 worth of gear (camera, tripod, wireless mic, camera light, batteries, maybe filters, etc) that needs to be paid for, maintained, upgraded when the time comes.

Producer said the shoots might be one or two shows a day that are about 10 minutes of runway and 5 minutes backstage.
BUT
The camera person needs to check gear, travel to/from shoot, needs time to setup.

Producer asked for "on call" because they didn't know which shows they'd be shooting on which days since they were contacted last minute.
BUT
A producer should then have several camera people they can contact. They shouldn't expect someone to be "on call" for a shoot that may not happen and, at best, gets only $100. Actually the camera person may get no work but on the other hand may get $100 for maybe 2 hours of work. That should be expressed differently than "on call" and "$100 a day."

I do feel a producer getting $175 for a 12 hour day is getting way underpaid and probably didn't have the background/experience to post an ad in terms an experienced camera person is used to.

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I'm Glad They're Looking!
 

I think its great that you got a response from a producer from this forum.

I wish they would all see how rediculous their posts are.

They NEED to see that they are clouding up Craigslist, which could be a great resourse for connecting legitimate producers with pros (or up-and-coming-pros).

If THEY only care about their shoot to the tune of $100 and are willing to settle with ANY warm body with a camcorder, why should WE take our time (and use our expensive gear) to care?

Now we have to sell the product AND shoot!
 

Earlier in this thread I made the joke that the day would come that the clients expect US to pay THEM to shoot. That day is not here (yet), but they apparntly now do expect us to sell their shows for them...

- BTW, I think this is an opportunity that WILL last :)

Seeking Production CO To Shoot TV Commercials

Reply to: job-287087096@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-03-02, 6:16AM PST


If you are a production company that can sell our 30 second Tv commercial slots we will use your Production company to produce the commercials. Looking for reasonable packages.

Please send resume along with a proposal asap. This opportunity wont Last!

Your prodcution fees is what you make on top of our commissions for selling the TV slots for our show.

WOW what HUEVOS!

"NEED ASAP!!" "growing" "1.4million views" "Must have a 3ccd Professional camera....HD if possible...." "will also be responsible for" "must act professional" "fast paced environment" "link to your work/resume"

........"THERE IS NO PAY"
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NEED ASAP!! Freelance Camera Person w/ gear to Interview the Stars!! (Midtown)

Date: 2007-03-14, 6:41PM EDT


Platinum Media Entertainment. A growing podcast production company with 1.4 million views are looking for freelance camera men or women who like the fast pace action in the NYC scene. Must have a 3ccd Professional camera....HD if possible.....

The show is called "Out And About in NYC"
Link to some of the shows: http://www.mixcast.tv/ViewChannel.as...elID=136180438

Your job will be to go out with my partner ("The host of the show"), and shoot her interviewing top entertainers, artist, etc... in the business. You will also be responsible for getting "B" Roll footage. She will be providing the DVtape's which you will give to her after the event is over...

THERE IS NO PAY.... BUT GREAT EXPOSURE.... YOU WILL GET ALL ACCESS TO THE VIP AREAS AND WILL BE UP AND PERSONAL WITH THE WHO'S WHO OF THE INDUSTRY.....an opportunity money can't buy!!!!

Students are welcome but must act professional.....This is a very fast paced environment.....You will get credit on the footage you shoot once the show airs.

ONLY SERIOUS INQUIRY!!!!

Email me the following:
1. Type of equipment you have
2. link to your work/resume

Come on now, at least they provide the miniDV tapes :)

This one sounds creepy as well as cheap...
 

WOW, this is officially the lowest paying job I've ever seen: $7.50 for YOU AND YOUR GEAR for a 3 minute video. Why not just NOT PAY as opposed to offering $7.50?

But I'm assuming this is a creepy way to contact women anyway because 1)it states they want "females" and 2)THEY WANT YOU TO SEND A PICTURE OF YOURSELF.

Ladies: RUN AWAY!


Chance to make videos and earn some $$$

Reply to: job-294429928@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-03-15, 9:14AM PDT


Chance to make videos and earn some $$$

Should be a female that has a camera
Create videos of people answering questions on relationships, dating etc or advice sessions. You could make $7.50 for every such video. The videos shall last for 1.5 to 3 minutes. You need to have a camera that can record videos. Send across your age profile along with a picture.



Compensation: $7.50 for every video

job offers
 

I contacted someone from Craig's list last summer. We exchanged e-mails for awhile then he offered me a job. It paid more than the usual Craig's list garbanzo. But, his answers to my questions seemed a bit brief. He claimed to have 25 years experience. So, I did some research and found that on the Florida Dept of Corporations website he had many very similar sounding fictitious names registered to him, most with different addresses. I looked up tax info on his address and found that someone else owned the home he lived in. Then I found some other things that made me nervous.

A few days before I was to go on this adventure shooting things and people for a website he informed me that I was to collect money from the advertisers, send it to him, and he would then send me my cut.

What else? Oh, only that he was doing 30 years probation with 10 years to go for being an unlicensed securities dealer. I asked him about that. "I've never been arrested." He did admit to the securities problem. How does a person get probation without being arrested first?

I contacted a local deputy sheriff who told me that if I did business with this guy I would be perceived guilty by association if he did something illegal. My lawyer neighbor told me the same thing.

And then there was the man from Tallahassee who was selling a Sennheiser shotgun with engraved serial numbers for his "tracking use". Strange that the serial numbers led the police to his employer.

HVX with mini 35 adapter with lenses for 3 commercials. $200 a day!!!!!. They can't even come close to RENTING that gear alone for that price.


Looking for HVX owner/operator for three days. (Paid)

Reply to: gigs-296876846@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-03-19, 6:52PM EDT


I am looking for a HVX owner/operator preferably with mini 35 adapter with lenses to shoot three commercials over three days (Sat, Sun, and Sat). We are looking for someone who can work with a small crew and be a team player. The dates are still to be decided, sometime in the end of April beginning of May.

E-mail resume, reel and equipment list. Anything else will be deleted.


it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: 200/day

Have you ever wanted to do EVERYTHING in production, all at the same time! Now you can!




VIDEO and PRODUCTION company seeks creative talent-New company offers
you
the chance to get in on the ground floor. If you have skills and
experience
in video editing, production and film this exciting opportunity may be
the
career you are in search of. Applicants should be experienced and
able to
demonstrate capability in the following areas-Shoot Video, Edit same
using
programs such as Adobe Premier, Final Cut Pro, Avid Express, Edit sound
tracks to go with video, Creative but have people skills, Work with
35mm or
16mm film, Still Photography, Graphic design, Web design, Promoting
sales
and booking jobs. This is a full time position, it is a 40 hour work
week
but you will be able to set your own hours around events. On occasion,
there may be a reason to work weekends and nights and the position may
involve a small amount of travel. This position boasts a competitive
salary
and commission on deals booked. Send portfolio or mail to:Shelia
Assiter,
5306 Hollister, Houston, TX 77077."

You know, i don't even think that is an on-the-level deal. I saw that same ad posted in the vegas CL.

Oh dear God. . .

"PA'S INTERESTED IN REAL ESTATE, INVESTING, FINANCE, TV, FILM ETC.

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Reply to: gigs-306444479@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-04-05, 5:49AM CDT


ONLY THE BEST NEED APPLY WITH HUMILLITY AND CONFIDENCE ....BALANCE IS GOOD!

u hungry, open, multiple skill sets, a-z, production experience a plus, sales n marketing a plus, focused self development essential, again u open, open, open, hungry, driven, on the path...what does that mean to U; good me 2!...lol sence of humor a must....smile all the time with a smile, a must, sincere, with conviction ahh yea, hungry open, etc...btw there R no mistakes, only learning opps!


resumae u send, with short and brief despcript of a-z, what , where, why , how , who etc....


if u need more just keep reading...




Location: MEMORIAL -HEIGHTS- MONTRON N RIVER OAKS
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: base negotiable, flex and part time, per right person, daily and weekly bonuses, when u impress me!,,,so be impressive often! "

What???? I don't even know what they're asking for????

Four words; 'Say NO to drugs.'

Thank you, thank you. Since you guys liked my last one, here's some more bullshite:


"Videographer or Editor

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Reply to: minhdg@yahoo.com
Date: 2007-04-06, 7:45PM CDT


We are currently accepting videographer or editor applicants on contract basis.
Videographer – Experience preferred, and camcorder required.
Editor - Knowledge in Adobe Premiere is helpful.

Very flexible hours for Videographer's.

We require Videographer’s to shoot a demo and send it in with first contact.
Here are a few samples of what we require http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8oRuZZg-8U
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8oRuZZg-8U

Here is a basic guideline to follow follow these guidelines and a job is almost guaranteed!

Proceed to intersection and film intersection

- Place hand in front of camera after every corner to distinguish start of the next corner
-Don’t shoot into sun
-Shoot Street Signs
-1 min 360 degree pan of intersection
-Shoot stores on intersection corners, only businesses.
-Shoot in 16:9 format, widescreen


Any applicants with a MiniDV or better can start today! Please contact for further inquiry.

Videographer -13/hr if own camera is used.
Editor - Contact and assessment of skills is required before discussion of compensation.

Please contact Ryan at 832-455-8190 email: bxn04@yahoo.com
Minh Dao, Email: mdao@videoquest.com





Compensation: 13.00 an Hour, contract only
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests."

You know, I love these people who insist that I spend THOUSANDS of my own money for purchase/upkeep of professional gear just to get the privilege of earning $13/hr. At leat this guy is offering twice the lowest amount I have ever seen offered on Craigslist (besides "just for credit" of course), and I'm not lying: $7.50/hr (WITH GEAR!!!!!)

I guess they are looking for VERY EXPERIENCED CAREER MINDED INTERNS. Ya know, the kind who are older and have Avid, FCP, Pro Tools, SDI, DVD making experience but are looking to make a career change to professional unpaid intern.
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Connected Production Company SEEKING Creative SERIOUS INTERN

Reply to: gigs-311752636@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-04-14, 12:03PM EDT

~~~~THIS IS NOT A JOB OFFER, IT IS AN INTERNSHIP......
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST FOR EMPLOYMENT......
WE ARE NOT HIRING!!!!!!~~~~~

We Are an aggressive Queens based High-End, Indie Video & Sound Production Company with BIG connections seeking an Intern.
**** Focused OLDER FEMALES preferred
as this is a mostly all-female company ****
MUST BE FAMILIAR WITH AT LEAST:
FCP or AVID / PRO TOOLS / SDI EDITING / DVD OUTPUT
INVOLVEMENT INCLUDES:
hands-on editing, production in video/music projects
creative input on shoots, scripting, post work, artist development, etc.
NO secretarial or slave-labor work
WE'RE SEEKING SOMEONE WHO IS CREATIVE, SERIOUS,
LOCATED IN THE 5-BOROS OF NYC ONLY, WHO IS
DEPENDABLE & CAN GIVE AT LEAST 2 DAYS A WEEK
Do Not Reply Unless You're Familiar with
BOTH Audio & Video/Film Editing....And
Ready To Step Up To The Next Level in
Your Professional Career

~~~~~~~~~~~~"HOBBY-ISTS" NEED NOT APPLY~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
E-MAILS CONTAINING NO DETAILED INFO GETS NO RESPONSE~!!!!!!!

You didn't comment on the "older females preferred" thing.

They don't want "hobbyists" and they don't want hungry college students who will do anything for experience...what planet are these guys from???

Guys . . . not guys

"this is a mostly all-female company"
What has me curious is the "mostly all-female." Either it's all female or mostly female. Is there a patriarch in there somewhere?

Now if this "all-female company" were looking for older guys maybe they'd get a good response.

I also find it odd that a company in Queens, NY (NYC) wouldn't want someone from Nassau County, NY (just outside NYC but may be closer to Queens than the other four Boro's in NYC). Something about crossing that county line has them worried.

Perspective
 

After you've done gigs for companies/clients who pay very well, plus pay travel costs and tape costs without batting an eyelash, these CL posts look so much more ridiculous. I hope all of these cheap skates are getting what they're paying for.

My God people! This thread is 2 1/2 years old! I'm tired of seeing it at the top of the charts every time I come on here.

If you don't like a job offer someone gives you, turn it down. There are plenty of people that need to pay some dues before they can pursue a career in this industry. These craigslist ads are aimed towards the young/inexperienced videographers that are looking for an opportunity to learn and make a couple of bucks.

These employers often get what they pay for, so why do you feel threatened?

No! these ads are by businesses who look to exploit young and TALENTED people who undersell themselves. They're not looking for or tolerant of poor quality. That's why they're ridiculous.

They often ask for SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE. That's why they're ridiculous.

These ads often ask that YOU OWN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF GEAR and they're paying the operator/talent LESS than the cost of the rental alone.

These employers often get A LOT MORE than the pay for. That's why they do it. They hunt for the one desperate but talented soul they can take advantage of . . . and they likely find it.

ME ME ME ME and maybe a little you if your stuff is good enough...
 

How can you ask someone to do this?
Work your butt off for someone who says they are "Brand New!" not only for free, but you have to cover all expenses, and podcast for them, and have your own equipment... and I bet their $50-$75 per day includes their own food and hotel at your expense...
Hey, but sometimes your camera will be on you too!!:


Cinematographer needed to travel the country
Reply to: gigs-323305061@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-05-02, 8:21PM MDT


Hi, we are a brand new Independent film production company. Right now we are in the process of making a documentary. In the mean time while the movie is being made I'm going to hit the road on a bus to promote the film...and film the promoting of the film. This is where I need help. I'm looking for a film student or someone who is looking to gain film experience. All I can say now is that you will travel to almost all fifty states in a short period of time.

What we need preferably is a Cinematographer. If you have your own camera even better! Someone who is also familiar with Mac computers and mac applications.
Also, if you know how to publish podcasts thats a huge bonus. This will be a very hard gig! You will have to follow me with the camera and spend a lot of time on the road. Most likely you wont get much sleep as-well.

The only catch is since we are brand new, we don't have any money to pay you.
Also you will have to be responsible for all you're traveling expenses. I figured out how to make the job as cheap as possible. I will need you for about 35-40 days. This means you will probably need about $50-75 a day. This will cover everything. You will also need to spend $650 up front, for an unlimited bus pass.

So that is basically it. We plan on getting some publicity for this trip, so you will be given full credit for all the work you do. Sometimes the camera will be on you too!

Please email any questions...

Thank you!!

Wow Chris, you've found one of the worst job posts EVER! Congrats!

Even at only 35 days at $50 each, plus the bus pass, the "employee" has to pay at MINIMUM around $2400 for this "job".

Nice.

I think you win.

"out-of-school" projects
 

Talk about digging your grave! Just how do these "students" think will move beyond this when the time comes to start paying their own bills and expenses?



Photography - Film/Video Production

Reply to: job-323536414@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-05-03, 11:48AM EDT


Film/Digital production and photography students group. Our goal is to build an outstanding portfolio with "out-of-school" projects. Therefore, we offer great quality work very affordable prices.


PHOTOGRAPHY
Fashion (photo-compcards package available)
Parties
Weddings
Night clubs
Children

VIDEO
Corporate videos
Music videos
Commercials
Films (short, feature)
Educated crew
editing (Final Cut Pro/Avid)
After Effects
Sound design


Location: Miami - Fort Lauderdale
Compensation: REMEBER: This is not only your projcet, its OUR too.
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

Chris, I'd think I'd pay just to see the responses they get from that ad. I could probably start a consulting business and charge money to people who responding to explain how they can work without paying anyone.

Jay, what you see has probably become the typical business startup model. Look for talented students/recent grads eager to work and pay them nothing.

There's a constant stream of talented students/recent grads willing to work for nothing so a company can stay in business for some time (with significant changeover) with this model. If and only if, one of those students develop their own client base will they get paid to stay on since losing them might cause a loss of business.

This is the CRUX of the low pay / no pay world. It's not that people "get what they pay for." If that were the case we could leave the bottom feeders to their poor work. They're getting great work for no money. I've seen some reasonable sized businesses and corporations move to this model. Businesses don't even have to cash outlay for the gear since the students are expected to buy their own.

Okay folks your daddy is back! Unfortunately, I see our beloved thread still has plenty of content to keep it current. The ridiculousness continues to grow and get more and more ridiculous and absurd.

Perfectly stated Craig! Some people just don't get it do they? It's been stated here many times that it's not about working on a worthy project for deferrment that's so bad. It's when these fools demand the world for nothing and make it seem like they're doing us a favor by working for them AND providing our gear for FREE!!

What's worse than working for nothing or deferrment is that most of these types of projects will never go anywhere because the people producing them don't know what they're doing to begin with. They are, in fact, mentally ill.

Scott. The reason we post these ridiculous jobs here is because we have fun criticizing these fools. So, if YOU don't like to see our comments, then don't click on this thread.

BAHAHAHAHAHA! LMAO!! You can say that again! That is absolutely ridiculous!! Here's one from a while back that I saved. This guy had to have been smoking crack when he posted this.

Here's a sneak peak of the insanity: ... If for some reason you are a no-show YOU need to help me to pay this couple back. ...

Right out of the gate the BS begins! Could they have been any more contradictory? It is just hilarious how these people find ways to re-word this simple phrase, I WANT AN EXPERIENCED PERSON WITH GEAR TO WORK FOR FREE.

James! I have actually been in contact with the $150 wedding guy before. He tried to hire me a few times, but the notice was short and I was always busy with something else already. He was also offering $200 back then. At the time, it didn't seem like such a bad deal.

Josh, was his pitch the same thing as what I just posted?

Sort of. I never got a pitch 'cause I was referred to him by a girl he knew here in Houston. He sent out a letter with all the explicit instructions (what exactly to shoot, etc.), and a tape of one of the weddings as an example.

Well, my point is that there is more than one person like that being unreasonable. That guy was specific about formerly living in Atlanta. So I don't think he was posting in different cities. But as we've seen, there are those that do this in different cities. Did you read what all he said? Other than all of his exhaustive, ridiculous requirements, what floored me was how he wanted us to help pay back the customer if we didn't show. That's a risk that HE takes, not us. Then he wants you to send him the tapes/DVDs before he pays you. What a yahoo!!