For someone who has either an FX1, Z1u, XH-G1, or an FX7 or any other similar camera and never shoot before than $150.00 wouldn’t be so bad just as long as the Producer doesn’t complain about the quality, although they might be lucky to get a good High School student. As for having a Sony HDW-F900 with lights and XLR lavaliere microphones, it looks like the Producer is looking for someone who is either high or drunk. All I can say to the Producer is good luck.

awesomely retarded:

"Make Me A Star

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Reply to: job-239039543@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-11-23, 5:39PM CST


I'm looking for a camera man, web- designer, photographer, promoter, and a producer. I'm an aspiring actor, rapper, model, Celebrity and star. I'm not sure which one I wanna settle down in but I need to make something happen. If this sounds interesting hit me up asap. So we can discuss further details.


Location: Houston Area

Compensation: Experience

Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

Please, no phone calls about this job!

Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

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I'm sure the recruiters are busting down the door there buddy...

Another:

""Daily Show" ....Staff needed...
Reply to: gigs-241084569@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-11-28, 11:12AM CST


I have a bi-weekly 1 hour show on Cable Access. Currently, it is dry. Want to take it to the next level by adding entertainment value. Looking for a person who has that experience.

* Location: Houston
* It's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests"

Man, those daily 1hr bi-weekly schedules are killing me! Never again!

I'm seeing Way to much money talk...
 

I'm seeing Way to much money talk... on this thread... money money money. I'm a mid aged guy who threw away a succesfull carreer so I could change my address and make movies. I've spent and am spending lots of MY OWN money as a producer to create stuff I hope people will enjoy. Any profits that are taken in after production costs are re-filled I am very happy to pay back the crew and actors (It states this in my contracts also). However, I will ask Veteran crew members to work for free. Not because I want to Use and abuse them... it's because 1.) I am spending money for hotels, transportation, food, tapes, insurance... blah blah blah... and the movie would never be able to be made with Veteran pay scales and 2.) I want the best possible images. And as I said before... if the project makes a profit, everyone gets paid. There are two different players in this game... as most... those out there for the money... and those out there because they love it. I am always looking for those veterans who love it... they always make the best stuff... and it's just a natural process that the best stuff... makes money. Of course there are fellows out there who will try to use you... but, some of us really are just trying hard to produce somthing good!

Carl, I hear ya, and I bet a lot of people on this board would work for a deferred (ie. probably never) pay rate. I'd certainly lend a hand on a quality project if my schedule permitted. But the want ads that we poke fun at here are just almost always absolutely ridiculously bad. Its easy to see that most of these "job" offers are nothing more than talentless individuals with no equipment or money that have some poorly conceived video project that they want everyone else to make for them.

I mean, seriously, $150/day for a camera operater with an F900? That's akin to "Needed: stunt driver with late model Porsche 911 Turbo. $150 a day". In that F900 ad, the guy didn't even try to convince the readers that there was a backend, or that it was a quality project that will better the world around us. He made it sound like you're lucky to get the project for that rate with your 100K camcorder (plus your light kit and broadcast mic). Oh, and he doesn't provide food.

Or this bi-weekly show thing. Looking at his ad I can only conclude that he somehow findangled his way into getting an hour of broadcast without actually having the ability to make an interesting show. So now he wants someone with talent to come make his show worth watching.

Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of talented people on this board that would enjoy collaborating on a high quality project with like minded individuals, even if no profit were in sight. But these ads just don't fall into that category..

Just my 2 cents...

Here is a real winner -

Reply to: trivialbrian@gmail.com
Date: 2006-11-29, 9:41PM CST


We are looking for a Camera op with their own equipment for a reality show being shot throught the month of dec to the new year.

Perfect for new filmmakers or seasoned.

Send letter of interest, or resume to

TrivialBrian@gmail.com

Thankyou

Brian D
Trivial Productions


Location: Dallas Area

Compensation: No pay...Great experience

Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

Please, no phone calls about this job!

Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

am i crazy or is this rediculous?
 

Found an interesting ad for an editor today, but upon reading the whole ad I notice the education/exp requirement of:


The pay for the job is only $35k/year. To me, that is rediculous...that much education and experience for what amounts to about $15/hr.

Am I way off base here? Am I expecting too much (I am coming from an IT/programming background)?

Lisa, you might be. I have a Master's Degree with over 10yrs of
production experience, and I work for a major university, and I make
just under that amount. it really sucks balls. If anyone wants to make
it in this business, they have to learn web dev.

I have to say that that sucks. When I was 19, still in college, I was making almost that amount as a web dev/programmer. 11 years later, I can't imagine going back to that. I think i'd have to get a second job. No wonder its so hard to change careers. I was thinking that the editing money vs. programmer money was close to equal.

Starting to get a little discouraged.

Lisa, I think it depends on what part of the country you're in. $35k might go a lot farther in Toledo, Ohio, then it would in Las Vegas or LA. Experience is also a factor a lot of times in these ads and what they pay.

Another guy who doesn't even try:

"need help asap for indy cinema!! (Union Square)
Reply to: gigs-247738534@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-12-12, 4:08AM EST


Hello All! my name is sidney santanjello.
i will be preparing to a feature film produced,photographed,and directed by myself.i need all the help i can get.the only thing i can offer all who participate is some tasty pasta before shooting and red wine once a week. that is after all daily production is executed accordingly. for the day or night. filming will commence for exactly 28 days no breaks.the movie making proces is a rare privilege.and i sincerely hope all who volunteer their time and efforts enjoy the project at hand.

p.s. for any questions email: chessmogul@hotmail.com

Shall we spread the enthusiasm!

p.s.s. all footage will be shot in its entirety in the greatest city in the english speaking world Manhattan NY

* It's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: none-voluntary "

Nonsense, its a rare privilege to get this kind of job. And hey, who doesn't have 28 consecutive spare days to trade for pasta.

Is it good wine? Or is it like MD20/20?

Steve, I fail to see the difference...

This One Is Worse than the $150/a Day Onee
 

Wow, at least the other guy (or gal) was paying:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...249644906.html

If I owned a Varicam or CineAlta, I'd have an itch to pay my monthly bills on it.

And to reply to an earlier poster about working for free...many of us do this. But only if we know the project is going to be worth our time. A lot of films want to make have absolutely no budget. No money for crew, no money for actors, and no money for production design, etc. Sorry, but it is very difficult to make a worthwhile fictional movie for no money. It can be pulled off, but the chances are about 1 in 1,000.

Most of us have a passion for this business. But we never forgot that it is still a business. People need to eat and have a roof under their heads. You can't do that without getting paid. Well...if you mooch off your parents/a roommate/a significant other you can but...I digress.

I was going to help on a shoot recently where the ad stated "possible employment if the show gets picked up." The idea sounded good, so I sent the producer an email. The story changed in the reply I got. Reading between the lines, it read: "If the show gets picked up, you'll get paid for your time for the pilot but more than likely won't be able to work on the rest of the series. Because the production companies we'll be shopping it to have their own crews. So thanks for letting us use your equipment to get our project off the ground, schmuck."

Those people were still looking for a volunteer 3 days before their shoot...and it got pushed back. They were still begging me to volunteer...I stood my ground. Had they offered guaranteed pay (maybe just $50.00 for gas or something) with guaranteed crew position if show got picked up, it would have been worth it.

That's the other thing. All of these producers seemingly wait until the last minute to gather their crew. What's up with that? On PAID shoots positions are booked way in advance. This leaves producers time to interview everyone (not just judge them based on who has the lowest day rate), discuss the project, get talent/crew to know each other, etc. Trying to assemble a large crew in such a short amount of time...if you don't already know people...is ridiculous IMHO.

Sometimes it is last minute
 

Hey Adam,

I agree with you and everyone else, there are a lot of producers trying to make something happen with no incentive to pay crew, further someone's career, or anything. I've been a local producer since the mid 80's, and I rarely if ever ask a crew person, regardless of the position to cut their rate. It doesn't make good business sense as a producer.

And one of the benefits of treating your local video/film community with respect is when a client calls in an emergency (and it happens a lot), I have a big established loyal crew base built over a 20 year period to call on.

That's what these other idiot producers don't get.

Are these ridiculously low wages, or am I crazy? I made 6.25 hourly at f*cking starbucks when I worked there 9 years ago!

Photography- Makeup Artist- Sales Associates
Reply to: lauram@s121.com
Date: 2007-01-03, 4:30PM CST


Creative photographers for portrait photography, Sales consultants and Makeup Artists needed. Part time and full time positions avaliable. www.s121.com.

* Location: The Woodlands
* Compensation: 5.00 per hour plus commission
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

Ahhh.. you're not counting all that commission :)

Well they provide with camera at least. You get $25 dollars per interview. Keep in mind each interview is 1 hour PLUS your travel time. Can you carry the backdrop by hand or do you need a car? What about lights? Thoughtful that they find provided backdrop more important than light kit.

With "leading" executives and lawyers, someone is making money but it's not you!


Film In-Person Interviews With Leading Executives & Lawyers

Reply to: job-260614853@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-10, 4:18PM EST


Executive seminar company seeks individual to conduct in-person interviews with leading executives and lawyers in Manhattan. Interviews last 1 hour, and interviewer would be provided with detailed interview questions to ask. Interviewer would be responsible for conducting the interview (and setting up the camera in the background to film it – which is very simple to do). Looking for someone who has a flexible schedule (during day time business hours) to accommodate schedules of the executives and can do at least 20-30 interviews a month (at an average of 1 hour an interview, plus your transportation time). All interviews are set up from Boston offices and you are provided with a date/time and camera for filming. Compensation is $25 an interview and a byline in the video credits. Interviewer would be trained on how to conduct interviews and do filming. Extremely interesting topics and ability to learn insights from top executives and lawyers. We are seeking someone who is extremely reliable and who can carry themselves professionally in front of the executives – no previous experience necessary. Position starts asap. Please email cover letter, resume and hours available.


Location: Manhattan
Compensation: $25/Interview

That is something I hadn't noticed in alot of the 'rediculous' posts, but your absolutely right. I mean other than someone backing out last minute, all the legit (even nonpaying) work I've ever gotten had me booked at least a month in advance. Even right now I have potential projects I intend to produce on the horizon that don't even have a start date, and I have my ideal crew already in mind. As soon as I have a shooting schedule I contact them and book them, or if they are not available I'd have posts up...and we're talking months in advance. I can think of only one time I was ever contacted last minute...and it was by someone I had worked with in the past whose client had a last minute schedule change.

I don't know if the last minute scramble is simply the result of these types of producers inexperience, or the idea that they think they can pull a fast one on you because you won't have time to check them out before hand. I guess its mostly the first, because I don't think that most of these people have bad intentions...they just don't know what they are doing.

This bothers me. TV show looking for EXPERIENCED run and gun shooters for $300 a day. I do better than that with my PD-170 shooting demo reels. If stranger still is if you look at the bottom under Compensation it says NO PAY.
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Realty Camera Operator $300/day rate (Battery Park)

Reply to: gigs-265236108@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-19, 3:52PM EST


Seeking an experienced shooter/producer for a upcoming realty series. We need someone who can both shoot running gun while keeping focused on the action and focus on story line development. Ideal candidate will have outdoor experince. This a serious gig with pay, $300 day rate. There will be tarveling involved, up to a week at a time in the states. We are a British company shooting for UK TV. Please send cover letter and resume and a link to online work. We will not consider responses without a reel. Interviewing will start next week. Please be experienced!! Thank you


it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: no pay

I love this thread. It provides so much entertainment.

I remember making a joke along time ago that you wouldn't ask a carpenter to work for free, or for "copy and credit". Apparently, I underestimated some people. People will ask for anything for film.

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We are looking for mechanical/handy hands to help build a boat/junk raft which will be heavily featured in an upcoming Indpendent movie being made by award winning directors. The position is unpaid, but the position will be credited. The position is open to fulltime or parttime employees. If you are interested please contac XXX@xxx.com



* Location: New Orleans
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

Things are really getting BAD
 

How's this for BAD. Sad, isn't it.
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GET ME A JOB! I'll give you some cash! (Midtown)

Reply to: gigs-266847327@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-22, 8:03PM EST


Get me a Job and I'll give you $200 Cash! I am a DP with my own HVX200 HiDef Camcorder, I shoot, edit, etc... Lets do some buisness!

It may be evil of me...but damn I'd take that deal. Hell, I could get the guy 5 jobs if he's willing to pay me to shoot lol. He didn't really specify that it had to be paying jobs :0P

Here's a laugh from Vegas:

"Small BIZ needs 30sec Commercial

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Reply to: gigs-269380475@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-27, 7:43PM PST


I have a small biz and need a 30sec commercial made. I would like the commercial to use several shots of various people hard at work (e.g. construction worker lifting something heavy, cop wrestling a suspect, hotel worker cleaning, delivery person, office woman hard at work, diff people doing various sports/outdoor activies such as water skiing, tennis, etc. All these scenes can be from archives (they do not need to be shot). After showing a few of these scenes, the commercial will say "Yoru work hard and play hard...you deserve a good...BLANK-BLANK" then followed by a scene of my business location.

The commercial will be submitted for airing on Fox. We'll pay the cost of showing the commercial of course.


Location: Las Vegas
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: no pay "

I love this for 2 reasons:

1. There's no pay and they don't even offer a flimsy excuse as to why the hell you should do this for free (ie "for experience/build your reel"). They just assume we shoot/edit for laughs.

2. "We'l pay the cost of showing the comercial of course". I just found that stating of the obvious to be hilarious. Of course, at this rate we'll soon see on Craigslist where the clients not only expect us to shoot/edit for free, but maybe PAY THEM for the priveledge and kick in for the airtime to boot.

I can just see the craigslist ad.

. . . . please be willing to pay for the spot time on Oprah or the Super Bowel. You will get great national exposure.

Brian,

I look at CL at least once a day here and it seems that all the ads are that bad, or worse. I checked on a few during CES/AVN and they would pay $200/day IF you bring your own equip (boom mic and high-end cam), and they didn't provide you with a ticket to get into the show (that you are supose to be taping at).

People complain about the non-talent they get off CL (I've heard it first-hand), how the video turns out lousy, etc. Well, I just have to say that you get what you pay for. I know if I had hired $100/day talent, I wouldn't be expecting $500/day results.

Video tape Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show for FREE????. I know someone who made tens of thousands of dollars doing these. This is a major "upper class" event. Of course she has a list of MUST HAVES for your gear and it's days of shooting too. Of course all that dog video is critical for my reel.

You should have thousands of dollars of gear, spend hours of your time across days . . . and get paid less than a dog walker!

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Videographer for Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show

Reply to: gigs-272148773@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-02, 12:43AM EST


The 131st Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show is almost here and I need a videographer. Must have access to a 3C DV camera (Sony VX2000, Canon XL1, 24P, etc) lighting kit and proper sound (boom mic or lav).

It all begins on Monday, February the 5th. I need footage of Angel on a Leash, a cocktail soiree to benefit the Westminster Kennel Club Therapy Dog Program.

And from Friday, February 9th to Wednesday February 14th, I need a few hours of footage from different events during the Westminster Week including the main event, which takes place at Madison Square Garden on the 12th and 13th.

This is a non-paying gig (free meals and transportation included). Great opportunity to use footage for job reel and free up close and personal access to one of the biggest animal events in the world. And you'll be working side by side with pet expert, Charlotte Reed.

If interested, please contact Katie at 917-627-9597

Well with tickets starting at 45.00 dollars to 145.00 you think they could actually give you some money. Although you video could get some press here http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org...eed/index.html......... but that would mean your video going to the dogs............. Sorry I just had to make that joke.

Seems I wasn't the only one who thought they were a rip off. They got flagged off of craigslist.

Seems I wasn't the only one who thought they were a rip off. They got flagged off of craigslist.

So for $100 a day you need to be "on call" for all 8 days! You're supposed to NOT book any other jobs, no guarantee they're using you that day, provide your own gear so you MIGHT make $100 for the day!


NY FASHION WEEK - VIDEOGRAPHER URGENT!! (Midtown)

Reply to: job-272483541@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-02, 5:19PM EST


NY based fashion company is looking to hire a cameraman/camerawoman from February 2-9 to film runway shows and backstage b-roll. OWN EQUIPMENT This is a temporary position. You must commit to be ON CALL the entire 8 days and will be available to shoot B Roll and Runway. Panasonic. Sony. Cannon Digital or HD Cameras with wireless mike and top light. Students and professionals welcome. $100 a day. Please send your resume and SAMPLE WORK, REEL and/or WEBSITE LINK to
press@stylezonetv.com
www.sztvmedia.com

There is opportunity for other work in NY, Los Angeles for the rest of the year if we like you!!!!

Now this MAJOR PEEVES me. VIBE, a commercial publication/media group, is looking for "interns" EXPERIENCED editors to work nearly half a work week WITHOUT PAY. I can understand the "make my movie for free" folks but when commercial entities want experienced part time FREE labor there's something seriously WRONG.
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VIBE.com Seeks Video Editor Interns (Murray Hill)

Reply to: job-272538972@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-02, 7:24PM EST


VIBE.com is looking for a few good interns... who have experience in video editing.

We're looking for interns who know Final Cut Pro who can work for 15-20 hours a week at the VIBE Media Group (VIBE Magazine, VIBE.com, VIBE Vixen Magazine, VIBEVixen.com, mVIBE, VIBE Enterprises) and assist in video editing.

If you have video editing experience, love hip hop and urban culture, and are looking for an internship for school credit, we would love to hear from you! We have immediate openings for these internships.

Please send your resume to the e-mail address below with the subject line "VIDEO INTERN CANDIDATE".

Thank you for your time and consideration - we look forward to hearing from you!

I love this one, camera operator with own sony hd f900 or f950, work for a week for no pay. Yeah I'm sure their phone will be ringing off the hook for that one.



Atlanta filmmaker needs crew for upcoming documentary

Reply to: gigs-254688481@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-12-28, 8:21PM EST


We are filming a documentary in Atlanta from February 10th thru the 19th, 2007 and are in need of experienced:

-Gaffers
-Grips
-Sound Engineers
-Camera Operator with own HD package (Sony HD F900 or F950)

Please review the film site @ http://www.lifeismymovie.com/darkroom.

"Light in the Darkroom" is being directed by Vincent Vittorio whose film "Little Men" is being released on DVD. The film includes interviews with the makers of Adobe Photoshop and MAC!

Please submit your interest and resume's to evangeline@lifeismymovie.com for consideration.

Deadline for submission is January 20th, 2007. I look forward to hearing from you.


Location: Atlanta
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: no pay

PostingID: 254688481

Why do I even bother?
 

You know, it would be cheaper just to hand him my 10 tapes and let him do the video here in ATL. Not even in my area.

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Date: 2007-02-08, 2:36AM EST


Studeo22 Does Full Scale Final Cut Pro Editing for $150. Contact Fred at 302-###-#### or email ########@yahoo.com - Commercials - Music Video - Home Movies - Picture DVD's and more.



Compensation: $150 Per Project.
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There's ridiculous and there's ridiculous. For the honor of shooting the auditions for free you can then work on the film for free. After doing my dishes with your sink and soap you will be rewarded with the privilege of throwing out my garbage.
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Intern Cameraman and Casting Director need for Casting a Film

Reply to: Gocamfilms@gmail.com
Date: 2007-02-19, 11:37PM EST


GC Film is casting a movie and looking for a Intern Camera man with his equipment and Casting Director or Assistant for the Auditions for a movie.
Compensation for your time will be made upon working in the film starting from April 2007.Auditions will be held on February 23rd 2007 on Friday in Champion Studio in Newyork city.

It's really getting BAD!
 

All the stuff below are or should be "commercial" entities!
a 3 person crew (no job positions) and they want resume's and cover letters. No Pay.
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CAMERA PERSON WANTED/STUDENTS WELCOME

Reply to: KAJA@JUMPOFF.TV
Date: 2007-02-24, 2:15PM EST


CONEXIONZ ENTERTAINMENT IS CASTING AN AUDITION NEXT THURSDAY AND IS SHORT A CAMERA CREW. NEEDED: 3 PERSONS FOR A 2 HOUR AUDITION PROCESS. THE TV LOCATION IS IN NEW YORK, NEW YORK (MANHATTAN) 59TH STREET & COLUMBUS CIRCLE. PLEASE REPLY TO THE ABOVE EMAIL ADDRESS WITH RESUMES & ANY COVER LETTERS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THIS IS THE IDEAL POSITION FOR A PRODUCTION STUDENT, HOWEVER FREELANCERS AND PROFESSIONALS ARE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.
CONEXIONZ ENTERTAINMENT
in affiliation with JUMPOFF.TV
www.jumpoff.tv
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For the one below they want EXPERIENCE, Camera AND Lighting Package and specificially eperience shooting in what sounds like difficult shooting conditions and apparently client handling skills, you need to send a reel and this is for FOUR days. NO PAY!!!!!
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Experienced Director of Photographer w Experience Shooting Dance (Midtown West)

Reply to: gigs-284125569@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-24, 7:27PM EST


Seeking Experienced Director of Photography w Camera and Lighting Package.

Person should have experience shooting with restrictions and in tight spaces.

Need person who is easy to work with and have connections to access equipment. Also one that is sensitive to the client.

Please send a link to REEL. Must be available March 6th and March 17th.

Committment is needed for FOUR DAYS. It is a FUN shoot and you will work with professional and ARTISTIC people.

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and for this one you're basically shooting VNR (Video News Release) material for FREE and you should be thrilled that your video will (might?) be shown on CNN. What STUPID reasoning!!!
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Cameraman needed

Reply to: dina.gusovsky@gmail.com
Date: 2007-02-25, 12:34AM EST


Cameraman needed for March 2nd to come to the United Nations to film short interviews with speakers. Clips will be given directly for CNN to be aired. Great opportunity for those wishing to get their shots/film seen!!

Compensation: no pay