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Chris Hurd April 23rd, 2005 01:02 PM

Thanks; thread moved to Vegas forum.

Ian Stark April 23rd, 2005 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
No you're not. It WILL work with a separately recorded audio source IF you manually group them.

Well, that's fantastic (both the fact that it works this way and that I didn't get a 'well, duh'!).

I'm struggling to understand how it works though. Do the audio and video have to be lined up correctly before first being grouped?

Michael Wisniewski April 23rd, 2005 02:00 PM

Check out the Ultimate S or the Still Motion plug-ins at the VASST website (click here). They'll help you with your photo montage.

Brian Kennedy April 23rd, 2005 09:15 PM

Sony Wave Hammer problem
 
All of a sudden, when I use Wave Hammer in Sound Forge or Vegas, I get random electronic beeps sprinkled throughout the file. I Google searched and determined that maybe my program has somehow reverted to "demo mode," but no real solution on how to fix it back.

I haven't changed anything on my computer in quite a while, and everything worked well for months -- until just now. I use Vegas 5 and Sound Forge 7, running XP Pro SP2. Never had a problem with Vegas or Sound Forge before this.

This is extremely frustrating. I understand the need to protect against pirating programs, but this is ridiculous! My programs were already registered, but I figured I'd try re-registering -- it didn't fix it. Can anyone help?

Jack Smith April 23rd, 2005 09:27 PM

Did you recently make a change such as upgrade to SF7?
or and any plugins?

Chris Trainor April 23rd, 2005 09:32 PM

Slow render in V5.
 
I have read through the forums regarding this previously, but I dont think this applies?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ht=slow+render

I am having the same problem with the slow rendering to mp2, with pre-rendered dv avi's.

But I am starting to think that it may be more of a system wide issue. This machine used to SMOKE (box has a xeon), and now it seems like its struggling to just do random, everyday stuff, like opening rendered files and such, displays a black screen but audio rolls in WMP, the images have to catch up a few frames later.

I went through all the processes running in xp, and went down the line to see what does what.

Nothing too out of the ordinary, but there are a lot of them running. I do run norton antivirus, but generally disable it during rendering. Just seems to have slowed to a crawl.

specs from belarc:

Dell Computer Corporation Precision WorkStation 530 MT
2.20 gigahertz Intel Pentium III (XEON)
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache

WDC 120.00 GB
WDC 80.03 GB
LaCie 1394 Disk drive 80.02 GB
512 Megabytes Installed Memory
Slot 'RIMM_1 ' has 256 MB
Slot 'RIMM_2 ' has 256 MB

280.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity

RADEON 7000 SERIES [Display adapter]
EMC 15.7 [Monitor] (15.7"vis, June 2002)
EMC 15.7 [Monitor] (15.7"vis, July 2002)
111.03 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

About once a year, I wipe my machine for good housekeeping. I am about due. Does it sound more like an operating system problem?

What about some kind of benchmark app that will tell me whats eating what up other than the one provided my xp?

Thanks!

David Mintzer April 23rd, 2005 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Trainor
I have read through the forums regarding this previously, but I dont think this applies?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ht=slow+render

I am having the same problem with the slow rendering to mp2, with pre-rendered dv avi's.

But I am starting to think that it may be more of a system wide issue. This machine used to SMOKE (box has a xeon), and now it seems like its struggling to just do random, everyday stuff, like opening rendered files and such, displays a black screen but audio rolls in WMP, the images have to catch up a few frames later.

I went through all the processes running in xp, and went down the line to see what does what.

Nothing too out of the ordinary, but there are a lot of them running. I do run norton antivirus, but generally disable it during rendering. Just seems to have slowed to a crawl.

specs from belarc:

Dell Computer Corporation Precision WorkStation 530 MT
2.20 gigahertz Intel Pentium III (XEON)
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache

WDC 120.00 GB
WDC 80.03 GB
LaCie 1394 Disk drive 80.02 GB
512 Megabytes Installed Memory
Slot 'RIMM_1 ' has 256 MB
Slot 'RIMM_2 ' has 256 MB

280.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity

RADEON 7000 SERIES [Display adapter]
EMC 15.7 [Monitor] (15.7"vis, June 2002)
EMC 15.7 [Monitor] (15.7"vis, July 2002)
111.03 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

About once a year, I wipe my machine for good housekeeping. I am about due. Does it sound more like an operating system problem?

What about some kind of benchmark app that will tell me whats eating what up other than the one provided my xp?

Thanks!

Have you run Hi-Jack this on that machine---It's obvious you use the machine to surf the web and it sounds to me like you might have some spyware or malware etc that might be playing havoc.

Brian Kennedy April 23rd, 2005 09:40 PM

I don't know what I could have done that affected it. I've updated Vegas a few times, but my last update to Vegas was quite a while ago. And I've never updated SF (I bought right before SF8 came out, and 7.0b Build 301 was what came in the package... I think that's the latest version). The strange thing is that the only thing affected was Wave Hammer. SF itself and all of the other effects I tried worked fine (and show up as registered when I did help>about).

In any case, I should have searched harder before posting. I found a similar question and answer on the Sony website forums right after I posted this. The answer was to uninstall and reinstall Sound Forge. I hate solutions like that, but I just did it and now I have Wave Hammer back. I've lost all of my effects presets in the uninstall/reinstall process, though. :(

Has this ever happened to anyone else? I hope this isn't something I'm going to have to do every few months.

Chris Trainor April 23rd, 2005 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Mintzer
Have you run Hi-Jack this on that machine---It's obvious you use the machine to surf the web and it sounds to me like you might have some spyware or malware etc that might be playing havoc.

No. I run adaware often, and AV.

I think that if I flatten it and start over, will keep it off the network, and use my laptop to check email and all that....Just a bit of a hassle, I suppose.

Will check out HI-JACK.

**edit** ran HIJACK, not sure what to do with the results...

Edward Troxel April 23rd, 2005 10:11 PM

Whatever alignment it is when you group them is the alignment that will be used by Vegas. So... make sure they ARE aligned when you group them.

David Ennis April 23rd, 2005 10:21 PM

DVD does not return to Main Menu at end
 
I just made my first DVD with DVD Architect 2.0

It uses only one video file (a stage musical), but I created two submenus under the main menu, Act 1 and Act 2, and distributed the appropriate chapter links in sequence to Act 1 and Act 2. Each has three pages with up to eight chapter links on each. Everything works except that at the end of the last chapter it returns to the last chapter page instead of the main menu.

Any suggestions?

David Ennis April 23rd, 2005 10:25 PM

Utilizing Vegas + DVD integration
 
What are some of the main ways to exploit the integration between Vegas 5 and DVD Architect 2.0?

Brian Kennedy April 23rd, 2005 10:28 PM

It just switched itself back into demo mode.

When I wrote the previous post, I had just run SF after uninstalling and reinstalling, and Wave Hammer was back to normal. Now I just ran Vegas, opened the file where I noticed the problem, and Wave Hammer was beeping again. Sure enough, the dialog box for Wave Hammer says "demo" again!

I closed Vegas, ran SF again, and indeed, in SF Wave Hammer is in demo mode again. I tried everything on the Sony website, but it hasn't worked. I'll be calling Sony on Monday, but if anyone knows any solution in the meantime, I'd appreciate it.

Edward Troxel April 23rd, 2005 10:34 PM

Put markers on the timeline for each chapter point. When you render, make sure you check the "Include Markers" option. These markers will then be used by DVDA as chapter points. This is true whether you use DV-AVI or MPEG2

A second way would be to use a batch rendering program to render to both MPEG2 and AC3 as a single step.

Use something like the Asset Collector in Excalibur which will also let you specify regions to render for motion backgrounds/buttons and pick still images that could be used as menus as well as the renders mentioned above.

Edward Troxel April 23rd, 2005 10:38 PM

Is the end-action of the video pointing to the correct menu?

Kevin Kwak April 23rd, 2005 11:22 PM

Author: Luca's Film?
 
I finished rendering a photo montage on version 5 and the rendered video shows a different author name.


Format
wmv
3mbps video template
Best Video Rendering


And on the index/summary tab, I typed in all the information, and added my name for Author.
The rendered video shows "Luca's Film" as its author.

I rendered twice and checked options twice. What could be the problem?

David Ennis April 23rd, 2005 11:29 PM

You've come through for me again, Ed. I didn't realize that I had properties options for the video itself. Thanks!

Brian Kennedy April 24th, 2005 12:28 AM

It is working now and hopefully will continue to work. Here's what I did.

I uninstalled SF a second time. Then, before I reinstalled it, I ran Vegas and opened the "bad" veggie. I removed the filters from the one audio track that had Wave Hammer on it, saved the file, then quit. Rebooted, reinstalled SF. Opened SF to make sure Wave Hammer ran as normal in SF. It did. Exited SF and rebooted again, then tried Wave Hammer in Vegas. This time it worked.

So far so good, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will continue to work. Because of this hassle, I missed out on one of the few free nights I have to do some editing. Frankly, I'd rather have a dongle with the program than have such aggressive software piracy protection. I updated the firmware on my scanner recently -- that's the only thing I can think of that may have made a change to my computer configuration.

Dan Euritt April 24th, 2005 02:47 PM

what some people do is to set the camera up so that you can swap pics around in front of it, doing frame captures into your editor as you go... crop by zooming the camera in and out, make sure that you have the lighting set up to be non-reflective across the pic.

Dennis Liu April 24th, 2005 07:22 PM

Snapshot: How to take multiple snapshots in one go?
 
Hi,

I'm doing a project now in which I want to take frames of a video (taking snapshots from the preview window in Vegas), then apply certain effects to these frames, then import them back into Vegas for animation at a lower frame rate (e.g. instead of 25 fps, down to 5 fps). Basically, doing the manual frame by frame thing. I've searched the forums, and am glad to find that it is easy to import 'image' sequences in one go as a single clip but is there a fast way of saving jpeg snapshots of a video (e.g. every 5 frames) from Vegas?

If not, is there another method?

Thank you for your help,
Dennis

Dennis Liu April 24th, 2005 07:41 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ht=rotoscoping

Sorry guys, I should have searched more carefully before posting this topic. DV Info forums are excellent... everyone is really helpful.

Thanks,
Dennis

Dennis Liu April 25th, 2005 02:05 AM

Render to MPEG-1/2 Different FPS?
 
Hi,

I'm doing a project which is at 5 FPS. When I render to MPEG 1 or 2 for PAL (I'm in NZ), the output is 25 FPS. However, when I watch the finished clip, Vegas has somehow 'smoothed out' the motion. In other words, at 5 FPS I had a sort of 'jagged motion', but in the rendered clip at 25 FPS, Vegas seems to fill the frames in between (i.e. frames 2, 3, 4, 5 between 1 and 6) with blurry motion, when what I want is for frames 2-5 to be exactly the same as frame 1 (i.e. basically frame 1 held longer).

I know there is a way to change this, which is to manually stretch each video event to 4 frames long instead of one. However, I've exported to photoshop for filtering then imported as an Image Sequence (very useful), thus it's just ONE video event.

So I'm thinking, is there a way to render to 5 FPS for MPEG 1 and 2 (for distribution on VCD/DVD)?

Thanks,
Dennis

Rob Lohman April 25th, 2005 04:26 AM

What you would really want to do (with 25p footage that is!!) is interpret
the footage as 24p, not convert it. I'm not sure if Vegas 6 can do this, but
if the file is in AVI you can do it very easily with an external tool:

1. go to www.doom9.org

2. click on download in the left menu

3. go to the "AVI Editing tools" section and click on "show all AVI editing tools"

4. download the program called "Avifrate1.10"

5. extract the program from the ZIP file and run it

6. load the AVI file, the frame rate should say 25.000

7. change it to 23.976

8. apply changes

9. load the saved AVI into Vegas, the audio should be shorter than the video now

10. ctrl+drag (stretch) the audio out to the length of the video

You should now have a 24p AVI file of your 25p file. Keep in mind that you
do NOT want Vegas to do a pulldown on the AVI since it really is 23.976,
not 30p which needs a pulldown!!

Rob Lohman April 25th, 2005 05:44 AM

If you go into the advanced settings when exporting you should be able to
set a manual framerate (keep in mind that you can't play something like
this on a DVD player). If not, then select the custom template before going
into the advanced settings or you need to select some other option (I
remember something of a pulldown above these settings) in the advanced
screen(s).

Hugh DiMauro April 25th, 2005 09:16 AM

Vegas 6 Interface Appearance Question
 
I've been a Vegas user since Vegas Video 3.0 and it's a fantastic program. I just installed Vegas 6 and noticed a slight interface appearance difference. Can somebody confirm or deny what I see so I know if it's normal?

I've noticed that the little triangles on the clip corners are missing. Is this normal or is something wrong with my software? I know this must sound stupid but I just want to make sure my software is working properly for warranty and replacement purposes.

Thanks a million for your responses.

Andre Andreev April 25th, 2005 12:39 PM

DVDA 3 - copy protection (not at replication facility)?
 
Any experience / advice on implementing copy protection with DVDA v.3?

The instructions in the help file refer to setting a flag on the burned DVD which would activate the copy protection at the replication facility.

Is there a way to copy-protect a DVD (using DVDA 3) on my PC, with my DVD burner?

Thank you.

-- Andre

David Kennett April 25th, 2005 12:55 PM

Derek,

I followed this post from the general PC editing area, and I'm not a Vegas user. I did a montage sometime back as somewhat of a "summary" where previous clips started at the center from infinity and appeared to fly by both sides of the frame. About 10 clips were on the screen at one time, with only 4 or 5 large enough to see clearly at one time There were about 30 clips total, and it ran about 15 seconds. To do this in Ulead Media Studio Pro, I attached a moving path to each clip (could be still). I could then move, size, distort, curl, roll (and more) any of these clips, while establishing key frames for complex motion. Up to 99 layers can be used at one time. I can't imagine that Vegas wouldn't have similar capabilities.

With 200 stills, you could possibly have 6 to 10 on screen at one time. Do a little arithmetic to judge running time. Use your imagination to "create" what you would like to do - then find the tool to do it! My guess you'll find it right there in Vegas.

Edward Troxel April 25th, 2005 02:24 PM

None of the copy protection schemes work with burned discs. Besides, they've all been broken anyway. Better to give them added value instead.

Edward Troxel April 25th, 2005 02:29 PM

There were a few changes made and it is now capable of using XP Themes. However, there ARE little triangles in the upper left and upper right corners of the events. They're small but they're there.

Dan Feder April 25th, 2005 03:23 PM

Vegas 6 Problem
 
Hey, this is my first time at the forums, so sorry in advance if i'm asking a stupid question that there is already an answer available for somewhere.

I just got the trial of Vegas 6 (6.0a), and it won't start up. It installed perfectly, with dx9 and the .net 1.1 and SP1 for that, and when i booted it up the first time, it loads and then it just hangs on the vegas 6 splash screen which is titled Adobe Default Windows Sound Driver. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling several times, yet it hasn't fixed the problem yet. I also have Terminal Services enabled, which supposedly fixes some crashing problems with vegas, but I'm not even lucky enough to get crashing problems yet, seeing that i cannot open the program. Vegas 5 still works perfectly, and I haven't seen anybody with this problem on any other boards, so I'm wondering if i just did something wrong with the installation or something? Any help is appreciated.

Dennis Liu April 25th, 2005 04:24 PM

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the tip. Is there anyway to automate a process which STRETCHES each image sequence by duplicating each frame x number of times? Or is manual dragging each frame individually on the timeline the only way to do it?

:oS

Dennis

EDIT: I figured it out. Basically I'll have to re-import all the images as SEPARATE IMAGES, then change the 'New still image length' in Preferences (Editing) to 5 frames (at 25fps) and drag all the individual images onto the timeline in one go. This should do the trick.

Edward Troxel April 25th, 2005 05:28 PM

What's an "Adobe Default Windows Sound Driver"? Does it start after doing a reboot? Can you do something to get rid of the Adobe setting?

Danny Santos April 25th, 2005 07:00 PM

Creating DVD
 
I just rendered and created 2 mpg2 files in Vegas 5. For DVD authoring, I used Sonic MYDVD to create the DVD. Unfortunately, my DVD player will not play it although in the past I have created DVDs and used the same player. The many DVDs I created using Pinnacle Studio 9 and Sonic MyDVD has been successful on this player and other player in the house.

So, what am I doing wrong?
1. Does Vegas 5 support +R. +RW discs?
2. Would it be my MPG2 rendering setup? I am using the standard/default setup such as:
Save File as: MainConcept MPEg2
Template: DVD NTSC
Video Rendering Quality: Good
Frame Rate: 29.97
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 Display

Anyone please. Thanks.

Dan Feder April 25th, 2005 07:55 PM

Thanks for the help but turns out that I was just not paying attention closely enough. The Splash Screen for Vegas 6 comes up above any other window, and it came up above that adobe sound driver window. That window was an error saying that I didn't have my audio in line active, and after realizing that i could move that error window out from behind the splash screen, I was in business. I think the new version of vegas is great, and I'm glad that I am able to use it now with no problems at all.

Edward Troxel April 25th, 2005 08:49 PM

1. Vegas 5 does not author or burn DVD's so it doesn't have anything to do with +R or +RW discs.

2. It DOES create valid MPEG2 files, though.

Edward Troxel April 25th, 2005 08:52 PM

Good to hear you got it working.

Peter Jefferson April 25th, 2005 08:59 PM

what this means is that you may have previously installed Prem Pro on ur system and with it, inadvertanly installed an proxy ASIO driver which is conflicting with yrou existing ASIO drivers through a soundblaster card or any other card using ASIO HW drviers...

there is a fix for it, but right now, my net connection isnt letting me get to my other forum to fish it out for you..

stay tuned...

Peter Jefferson April 25th, 2005 09:05 PM

there are many factors in ths situation.. primarily the media you are using, and the dvd authoring tool

some dvd players flat out refuse to play a disc for its make, while others wont play them due to the file system...

you wont get 100% compatibility with every disc u make...

one thing to note though, is that dvd architect1/2/3 has been designed with the DVDForum specs specifically for compatibility. Its file system protocol is identical to a commercial dvd, which gives it an advantage on the other aplications when it comes to compatibility...

to save burning coasters, an idea is to use rewriteable dvd's as masters

Chris Trainor April 26th, 2005 12:23 AM

Rendering Order?
 
I wrote into this forum earlier this week about slow rendering in V5.

A 25 min clip, 80% mp2 and remaining avi's, no effects (pre-rendered) and a few masks, estimated time to render to mp2 = 14 hours. Does that sound accurate? I just dont recall rendering moving so slowly.

So my question:

I capture as full frame avi. Should I do all the editing, correcting, etc as an avi, then render it down to a 'flattened' avi or mp2 then insert, or import the footage into an existing project, work on it, then render the whole thing at once? Does this make sense? It is late and my computer is slow.

Chris Trainor April 26th, 2005 12:26 AM

what about rendering to another drive?

I have another internal 80 gig and an external firewire lacie. Any chances that would speed it up? Just got handled the probably impossible deadline...


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