How about starting a 60i project. Editing the footage. Then when you are
done change the project settings to 24p and render out to 24p?

Thanks for the answer.

I will check both the hardware sountions u suggested. I was actually interested in a software solution.

So I kind of understand that all softwares have the same options when it comes to DV capture?

Sounds strange cause for example Scenalyzer is very different from vidcap interface on Vegas and offers different options.

Yes Rob, this is what I would like to do but...

I have heard a bunch of people say that it is better to CC, add effects, titles, overlays, etc.. in a 24p project when the output will be 24p. So if I do everything in a 60i timeline and then change the project to 24p and render as 24p, the footage will not loose any more quality then if I had rendered to 24p before CC, effects, etc?

I do the same as Edward, certain things get done in Scenaylaizer but virtually all my wedding footage gets captured in Vegas. Since I'm capturing the entire tape at one time, it seems to make sense to me. I've used it for quite a while and haven't had any problems with the interface or how it captures or logs the clips.
As stated, there are no capture programs that will work faster at least none that I know of.

If you could state what it is that you're looking for in a capture utility perhaps we can be of more assistance but frankly between Vegas and Sceneayalizer, you should pretty well be covered.

Don

Noticed some things about Vegas previews
 

1- If you right click video preview, and turn "simulate device aspect ratio" off your previews will go a little faster.

You can also double click the window at the top to resize it intelligently. The smaller mode also goes faster.

2- You can loop a section of video (mark in out by hitting "i" and "o" or by dragging a selection in the timeline; hit q to loop, or click the icon). As it loops, Vegas will save rendered chunks into RAM. If the loop is not real-time, it will eventually become real-time as Vegas renders everything into RAM.

Not sure how useful that actually is, although you could loop something while you tweak filter settings.

Mr. Hahn,

Is your tag-line trying to tell us we all need more chorus girls in our life? Or did you mean to say chlorine instead of chorine?

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

chorine

SYLLABICATION: cho·rine
PRONUNCIATION: kôrn, kr-
NOUN: A chorus girl.
ETYMOLOGY: chor(us) + –ine.

I use #2 a lot. It is interesting to watch the frame rate numbers as it loops. Even if they start low, they will slowly increase until you get to full framerate. Of course it is limited by the same limitations as RAM Render - the more ram specified, the larger the area that can get to full framerate as it loops.

one thing to note though is that simulate device aspect DOES add stepping to what yo usee and can be potentially dangerous if yo forget to turn it off during rendering..

ive had a 22 hr render killed coz i forgot to turn it off..

i guess coz were seeing square pixels, its tryin to elongate them to fit DV/HDV hence teh distortion..

Vegas 6, student discount
 

Vegas 5 with DVD, I believe, was something 220 USD for students. Anyone knows how much Vegas 6 for students?

Radek

Ha ha! Actually, either is fine with me...

Good catch though ;)

http://adobe.ccvsoftware.com/c/@d1HX...record@CDSF118 shows about $190 for Vegas 6 only.

http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...s&qs_platform= shows abour $190 for Vegas 6 and about $300 for Vegas 6 + DVD

Might have to take a few graduate courses just to buy another copy! ;)

From the PD1 Manual:

HI-RES:
Allows you to record on a tape in MPEG2 format (576p). The camcorder records signals in the progressive scan mode (525 scanning lines at 1/25th of a second for recording and 1/50th of a second for playback at one time).

The cam can't output 25p - only 50p. This despite the fact that it's key shooting mode is 25p! Sam's right, the bundled software is the only one won't get confused...

There's no loss of data, so if we can teach software, it won't matter..

OK, guys, I found the answer. On the Vegas support site, I discovered some info that indicated that you have to have the channel set to F-1 of you're trying to print to tape via firewire back to the JVC deck. I tried it and it worked perfectly the first time!!!!

Vegas 6 plus DVD Architect 3
 

I read that it now has support for setting CSS and MacroVision protection. Does it mean that I can now protect DVDs I created from being copied?

Currently I don't have DVD Architect when I bought Vegas 5 (last year) and now contemplating of buying Vegas 6 +DVD. Can I sell my Vegas 5 legally? I can get a full version of Vegas 6+DVD $40 cheaper than the upgrade through academic purchase. I think full version is better than upgrade, is that correct assumption?

Sorry for the ignorance.

DVD-A 3 has those protection options but it looks like they just set flags for replication facilities. I suggest you download manual for DVD-A 3, there should be exact information what those things do.

But you must realize that if somebody WANTS to make a copy, they'll be able to do it since all those protection schemes have been broken long time ago.

There currently is NO copy protection for burned DVDs. These flags only work for replicated discs (no matter WHAT your authoring system).

Using the HD Film Look Plugins in Vegas 6
 

Can I apply the plethora of HD film look plugins that come gratis with Vegas 6 with my SD clips?

Mike,

I get exactly the same problem with vegas 5 and my panasonic PV-GS400.
Did you solve this?

Etienne

hello,

no , never did get it resolved.. But now i have Vegas 6, but i did not try it yet..

Mike

I have 3 AG-DV2000 decks (1 at church and 2 at home) and all three do pass-thru just fine. Going back to the original post, the basic settings look like they match mine. On the main display, do you have an A1 or A2? If yes, press the "Input Select" button until nothing is displayed there. THAT is the "firewire input" mode.

Vegas Training at Stanford
 

http://"http://digitalmediaacademy.o...ets/vegas.html
offers a one-week course in Sony Vegas at Stanford's Digital Media Academy.
Great location, lotsa fun coming up there. Hope to meet a few of you!
Topics include HDV, Vegas, and general editing techniques.
Taught by Keith Kolbo and Douglas Spotted Eagle.

Vegas Training at Stanford
 

http://digitalmediaacademy.org/cours...ets/vegas.html
offers a one-week course in Sony Vegas at Stanford's Digital Media Academy.
Great location, lotsa fun coming up there.
Topics include HDV, Vegas, and general editing techniques.
Taught by Keith Kolbo and Douglas Spotted Eagle. You can view the week-long agenda on their website. It's very exciting to see Vegas join the DMA lineup this year.
Hope to meet a few of you!

Emergency rendering question.
 

Ok so Im working in vegas 5 and am ready to render my AVIs out to Mpeg for DVD. Right now I will be using the MainConcept Encoder that came with vegas. My project has been in 2:3:3:2 24p timeline. I will be burning the DVD with Adobe Encore not architect...I dont have it. The only template for 24p in MainConcept is for Architect. Will this make any difference as far as encore is concerned or is it just an mpeg?

Also, the disc is right now about 1 hour 15 minuets. The audio has come from a recording studio and sounds amazing. Will I have to go to ac3 to fit it all on a standard DVD? If so is this the recomended thing to do anyway? Is the quality and compatibilty better with ac3? Or should I do PCM? I really want to get this right as Im on a tight timeframe and cant afford to render everything multiple times. Thanks!

Also is you have any sugestions concerning using MainConcept to optimize my 24p XL2 footage to keep it its best PLEASE let me know now. Thanks!

Vegas 6 (optional)?
 

Seems like only yesterday I went to VV 5 and now there is a 6.

I don't see much there for me except the project nesting.

Do you need to to upgrade in order to be able go to VV 7 when that comes down the pike or can I skip 6 without penalty?

Thanks,

KIM

The 24p Architect settings should work just fine. They create a standard MPEG2 file which should be accepted by ANY authoring program. The one thing to note: It will NOT include audio. Render your audio separately as AC-3 and give both the Encore and all should be fine.

If history is any indcation.....

You can currently upgrade from V4 to V6 for the same price as V5 to V6. For that matter, the same price will even let you go from V3 to V6.

Question: do you use DVD Architect? If yes, UPGRADE. DVDA3 alone is worth the price of the upgrade. But there's several neat new features in Vegas 6 that would also warrant the upgrade. Take a look at my April 2005 newsletter where I talk about what's new in each.

I am in a similar boat. Been using the trial (9 days left) and really there doesn't seem that much added of any real benefit - to me. I can't see what in DVDA3 is that much better either, I usually just make a DVD with a menu, maybe a submenu and that's it. Edward, I'll look at your newsletter and see if there's stuff I'm missing - thanks.

That said, I think one thing I've noticed that's good is that the Project Media manager doesn't seem to move all my media around the bins from what I can tell so far. V5 used to move them EVERYWHERE. Shame I have to fork out $200 or so just to fix a bug.

Kim, I think you have to look at what you do with it. I am not a pro editor who does this for a living, so I have 1 job (And I don't really get paid for them) I do every 4-5 months. For me the upgrade then becomes more of an issue; 200 can be spent elsewhere on other gear. If it's the same for you then maybe you should save your money.


Aaron

Anyone have a steadi-cam plugin for Vegas?
 

Anyone have a steadi-cam plugin for Vegas?

I had a plug in for Premier about a year ago that tremendously reduced camera shake.


Does anyone happen to have one for Vegas?

thanks!

There's nothing I know of that runs inside Vegas itself, but there's the Deshake plugin for VirtualDub and the Boris stabilizer that is shipped with Vegas 6.

They do different things, so which to use depends on what you're trying to correct. The DeShake filter smooths out camera motion, while the Boris stabilizer attempts to remove ALL motion.

Why Does My MPEG-2 Render Freeze?
 

I am rendering a 90 minute documentary as an MPEG-2 DV Architect Template and the render freezes at 16% each time. When I check the CPU usage indicator it has dropped to zero, meaning the rendering process has just stopped. Why is this happening? I am in a panic because this thing has to be finished for the client by TONIGHT so it can be entered at the IFP in New York by Friday!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!

Try doing a pre-render (to DV-AVI) of the project. After the pre-render, do the MPEG2 render.

I had one of those before with older Vegas, v.4 I think. Problem was in source AVI file, Vegas couldn't retrieve a frame and stuck there. I used VirtualDub to re-save that AVI and problem was gone.

Ed You Saved My Sorry Ass Again!
 

Ed:

I did as you said and I got past the 16% mark. Now let's hope that it renders all the way. Just so I'm clear on your suggestion:

I take the finished rendered file and place it on a new timeline then render that out to MPEG-2 with the AC-3 file separately for DV Architect?

Thanks a million for all of your priceless help. I hope I can give back to DV Info a modicum of what it has given me.

Encoding Problum, Desperate!
 

Alright Im panicking. I just burnt a DVD from encore that was rendered in vegas 5 with mainconcept. It was set to the standard dvd 24p acrhitecth setting. When I watch it on tv the letterboxing (tried pan/ as well as a mask) moves up and dows slightly and I every once in a while see a whitish line beneath the letterbox. Between the bottom of teh tv screen and the mask. I dont see it on my smaller tv but I think the whole image is moving. Has any one experienced this before? It does not do it with mainconcept on premiere, but premiere seems to have waves through it.errrr....

Thanks!

picture in picture
 

I have done a fair share of editing on Avid Pro and find the picture in picture function easy to use. It is especially helpful when doing promo projects.

I havent been able to get it to work on Vegas 6 yet. How do you do this?

Vegas 6 or PPro 1.5 faster to render HDV?
 

Just using the interlal plug ins already inside of the softwares, which is faster as rending HDV footage?

Also, I know you can put Vegas on up to 3 computers, can you put PPro on more than one computer?

Owen, I use Vegas 5, not Vegas 6, but making a picture in picture is as easy as putting two video tracks stacked on the timeline, then using the pan-crop tool on the top one to shrink and position it.

Render farm with Vegas for HDV footage
 

Anyone using Vegas with a render farm?

I have 5 computers sitting in boxes and was thinking about setting up a render farm to get the render times down to what it takes DV to render.

Anyone doing this? How many computers you using and how much is it helping render times?

Make sure your cam is in record mode. If you have it in playback mode you will not see anything coming to the cam from the PC.

Good luck.

Dennis