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John Cline April 19th, 2005 09:26 AM

The special pricing is available at the following link:

http://www.custcenter.com/cgi-bin/so...ted=1113828394

John

Joe Carney April 19th, 2005 12:41 PM

New Article at digitalproducer
 
Spot has a comprehensive article on many of the new features in Vegas 6 over at digitalproducer.com Clear and easy to understand.

Joe Carney April 19th, 2005 12:43 PM

More reasons to spend money
 
I just realized. With multi cpu support, we all have an excuse to get one of those expensive hotrods from Boxx technologies. hehehe.
Don't tell your spouse you heard from me.

Andre Andreev April 19th, 2005 01:22 PM

Or build one yourself
 
You can build a similar/more powerful system with high quality components for less than 2/3 of the price.

You can also get a good barebone system from newegg or tigerdirect and avoid the hassle of installing the motherboard.

Cheers
-- Andre

Joe Carney April 19th, 2005 01:33 PM

Darn it Andre, the whole point was to talk about something most of us couldn't afford. Now you've gone and removed any reason not to. :) hehehe
I accept no repsonsibility for broken relationships what so ever.
Including my own.

Just wondering if I should purchase before or after moving to Germany.

Dan Euritt April 19th, 2005 04:31 PM

ideally, you would have all the dance sequences encoded into one long mpeg2 file, with chapter markers wherever you wanted 'em... that way, you would be guaranteed to have play all capability, with no delay when switching chapters.

don't depend on a ps2 for anything, either... confirm the dvd's playback behavior in a real dvd player.

Ian Slessor April 19th, 2005 04:38 PM

You nailed it Dan!
 
Hey Dan,

Thanks for the tip. By the time I read it I had already confirmed what you suggested but still the advice is appreciated.

I played the DVD in the player at work and it functions perfectly.

I guess I need to watch movies on something other than a PS2.

Thanks Dan & Ed for all of your help.

sincerely,


ian

Peter Jefferson April 20th, 2005 12:31 AM

Anyone else getting stack dump errors in V6?
 
this is a strange one..

i can go into anythign vegas related, but as soon as i try to open a project, or import some media, or even create a new project, i get fatal exceptions with stack dump errors..

now this is a wierd one as im yet to see this happen to anyone so far apart from one guy who mentioned it crashed 5 times in as many minutes..

now im all for media management, hell this was what i was looking out for when i proclaimed i could ditch my Avid, but it seems to me that there are stil some major flaws in the program.

one thign to note is that Vegas has been totally rebuilt from the ground up. Its core code has been rebuilt and as such, due to security, al testing was done internally@Sony (even the distributors here in oz didnt get a chance to beta test) Hell we were all on gag order about its new features let alone get a chance to play with it..

Reason i mention the above is that teething problems are to be expected.. Personally though, being one of the bigger advocates of Vegas i woud have expected a little more from it. Afew more filters, afew new features within the filters themselves, (such as latch recording keyframes as seen in the surround panner)

Sure show it at NAB, but they could have held back at least 4 weeks before distributing it. They could have said, yup, heres vegas, available on so and so day, instead of releasing it and gettin all this bad publicity.

obviously the problems will be fixed.. hell even PC games are released months ahead before theyre ready simply due to the big guys saying that the kit must be available there and then.

needless to say, i still cant use my demo copy of vegas and i wont be buying it until i learn the ins and outs of the new fetaures, but i cant do that until this crashing problem is resolved..

Colin Rayner April 20th, 2005 05:29 AM

Thanks for all the help Grazie, well where am I at now........... Well, I captured in Movie maker, it doesn't have a dropped frame notifiation that I saw and the capture appeared to work fine there. Not a tape problem then. I then did a live feed direct from the camera and captured several minutes without dropping a single frame. I have noticed from doing that, that the capture duration and current location clocks are not ticking over smoothly when trying to capture off the tapes, that is to say it is almost stuttering compared with the live capture where the clocks just rolled over continuosly and smoothly.
Checked that link and I guess that Bios settings are a bit beyond me, but I have some tech support a few hours away, but he's not big on multimedia apps.....................................
I will try the tapes out in another camera when I can get hold of one (Saterday) and see if it is something with the tape mechanism, although it did capture tape ok with movie maker. So maybe it is something in the settings. I think that I will reset everything in Vegas back to default set up for PAL and capture to the ext hd and then have another go.
Stressed? Who me!!!!!
Thanks for spending so much time on this problem Grazie!!!
Cheers,
Colin

Graham Bernard April 20th, 2005 06:30 AM

Pleasure!

Look, I use an XM2, I use Vegas there WILL be a solution!

Best wishes

Grazie

Dan Keaton April 20th, 2005 07:31 AM

Dear Peter,

I will be getting my copy of Vegas 6.0 (Boxed Edition) this morning (April 20, 2005).

I will install it as soon as possible and report if I am getting any errors.

Secondly, I understand that there is an update for Vegas 6.0, on the Vegas Download site, that should be downloaded. I understand that this is a later version than what is in the boxed edition.

Edward Troxel April 20th, 2005 08:16 AM

My suggestion would be to take a HARD look at Vegas 6+DVDA 3. Delayed buttons is one of the many new features in DVDA 3 and will simplify this procedure greatly.

Richard Alvarez April 20th, 2005 08:24 AM

Yup, its funny how people complain that AVID says, "HDV support in third quarter" and then complain because it's not here already. Extensive beta testing.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

I just get tired of people who brag "MY NLE never crashes." (any brand.)

They ALL crash. Every single one of them.

I am sure VEGAS will work through it's problems, and version 6.x will be completely stable. Hey, that's the way it works.

Peter Jefferson April 20th, 2005 08:29 AM

i was surprised that it was crashing though.. and considering i cant find the cause of it is a great concern to me.. im thinging its mroe the implementation of the media manager, however even with it disabled (which defeats the purpose of V6) it still crashes..

I agree with ur comments that all apps crash.. however for an NLE of this magnitude, the only ones that HAVENT crashd on me randomly is Vegas 5 and Avid express dv which is on a different system anyway..
i dunno anymore.. sony could have done so much mroe with it.. (i was actually expecting afew more extras (such as filters etc) than what i was told during our briefing/demo before its release)

oh well.. ill stick with what works for now..

Edward Troxel April 20th, 2005 08:40 AM

Peter, I haven't been seeing these crashes. Any step by step method to reproduce?

Dan, Once you get your box, forget the CD and download and install 6.0a.

Peter Jefferson April 20th, 2005 11:09 AM

basically install the netframework 1.1 an make sure DX9c is fully loaded

install vegas and reboot

open vegas and u cna lcik thru everything without a problem

try to access a drive or file, and i ge tehse stack dumps.

whether i go into file and select open as soon as i click on open, bang..
try again this time just import media and click up to timline area for auto timeline creation.. bang.. dead..

go to media manager.. scroll thru blanks.. all good, try to access files.. bang again..

i tried it with media manager on and off and it does the same thing..

also once the program crashed i have to shut it down thru task manager
then i have to shut down sqlserv

i wish Sony didnt use a microshaft databasing system... :(

Keith Paisley April 20th, 2005 11:46 AM

how to get the upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
If you purchase Vegas 5 + DVD today, you will qualify for a free upgrade to Vegas 6 + DVD. Videoguys is running a special right now.

I bought Vegas 5 + DVD as mentioned. Now how do I get my free upgrade? I didn't see anything on the Sony Pictures site about it.

thanks.

Keith Paisley April 20th, 2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Paisley
I bought Vegas 5 + DVD as mentioned. Now how do I get my free upgrade? I didn't see anything on the Sony Pictures site about it.

thanks.


by the way, I didn't purchase it from Video Guys - that shouldn't matter though, right?

Chris Trainor April 20th, 2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
My suggestion would be to take a HARD look at Vegas 6+DVDA 3. Delayed buttons is one of the many new features in DVDA 3 and will simplify this procedure greatly.


I just got the the trial, and it worked perfectly for what I needed....ugh. Guess its time to upgrade.

Joe Carney April 20th, 2005 12:44 PM

Hey folks now that we can justify it (OT)
 
Dell has their Ultrasharp 24" lcd monitors on sale. They got a 9 out of 10 at extremetech.

Here is the link $999.00 US.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...&page=external

Edward Troxel April 20th, 2005 03:13 PM

I'm not sure the free upgrade info has been posted yet. Call Sony support and ask.

Kevin James April 20th, 2005 06:05 PM

Could you explain in greater detail how you did that? Thanks!


If need be I can host this clip as far as I have gotten so you can get a beter Idea of what I am trying to accomplish.

Don Donatello April 20th, 2005 09:15 PM

make sure when you capture you are using SMART capture ( no computer preview while capturing )

by any chance are you using one of those file share programs ? ( music, video sharing) .. i have found on friends computers these programs use 40-50% CPU even if it is not hooked up to internet ...

also you must TURN ON write cache on the external drive ( at least once from any computer ) go into disk management .. right click on the grey area below the disk # ( ie disk 3 ) then properties .. you'll find write cache on 2nd header i believe - put a DOT in the trun on write cache ..

Jim Lafferty April 21st, 2005 03:16 PM

AAF Working (thanks BJ_M)
 
Here's the link to the proper .dll -- overwrite (or backup and replace) the AAFCOAPI.dll that sits inside your Vegas 6 dir.

Dan Keaton April 21st, 2005 10:50 PM

Dear Peter and Edward,

I just completed my install of Vegas 6.0 (April 21, 2005). Everything that I have tested to date seems to work fine.

I opened projects that I created in Vegas 4.0 and they work. I set up a secondary monitor as the preview monitor and that worked fine when I disabled "Fit to Screen", otherwise it was blurry.

I created a new project, from scratch, in Vegas 6.0(a) and it works.

I followed Edward's advice and put aside the disk of Vegas 6.0 that I received from Sony, downloaded the Vegas 6.0a Upgrade and used it instead. Sony's technical service offerred the same advice. (Thank you for pointing me in the right direction Edward!)

I had to load ".Net Framework" and then the Service Pack 1. I also had to upgrade to Direct X 9.0(c). All of these were checked by the installation process. The installation software automatically pointed me to the proper locations to download and install the upgrades.

Then I was able to complete the installation of Vegas 6.0(a) and everything appears to work fine.

Leo Anderson April 21st, 2005 10:59 PM

Pink clip on timeline.
 
Hello there,

I just upgraded to Vegas 6.0 today and I opened a .veg file that I have been working on in Vegas 5 and I noticed that one of my clips is colored pink on the timeline. It doesn't affect anything as far as I can tell, but I am curious as to what it means.

To see what I'm talking about visit http://www.paulbunyan.net/users/vegas/vegas-pink.png

Edward Troxel April 21st, 2005 11:34 PM

Dan, that's good to hear. Here's a basic summary for Vegas 6:

1) You MUST have .NET 1.1 with Service Pack 1 installed.
2) You MUST be up to DirectX 9.0c
3) It is STRONGLY advised that you use the 6.0a download instead of the 6.0 on the CD.

Edward Troxel April 21st, 2005 11:37 PM

A "Pink clip" means that your audio and video are out of sync. If you have the "Show active take name" turned on, it will also give you the amount of offset.

Right-click one or the other and you'll see a new "Syncronize" menu option with which you can resync them.

Ian Stark April 22nd, 2005 02:08 AM

That's a great feature. Presumably it only works on video and audio that were originally grouped then ungrouped. In other words, it won't work with a separately recorded audio source.

I think I'm going to get a 'well, duh' response here!

Peter Jefferson April 22nd, 2005 05:22 AM

Done all that Ed,
gonna see what the deal is with V6 on an XP machine with SP2..
my unit here only has SP1, and i really dont want to install SP2 as this unit is rock solid. Im also running remote tools so im literally accessing this machine while im out of the office.. it took me ages to configure and i dont wanna risk losing a working system...

Dan Keaton April 22nd, 2005 05:59 AM

I just did some research on the installation of Vegas 6.0.

I put aside the supplied installation disk in favor of using 6.0a upgrade download as recommended. This was appropriate and it worked.

However, I just learned that some things I needed (and downloaded as directed by the installation process) were actually on the Vegas 6.0 cd provided in the boxed set.

This is just a note to let everyone know that if you have a slow internet connection, you can obtain ".Net Framework 1.1" and ".Net Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1", and Direct X 9.0(c) from the cd.

Edward Troxel April 22nd, 2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark
That's a great feature. Presumably it only works on video and audio that were originally grouped then ungrouped. In other words, it won't work with a separately recorded audio source.

I think I'm going to get a 'well, duh' response here!


No you're not. It WILL work with a separately recorded audio source IF you manually group them.

Mark Kubat April 22nd, 2005 12:38 PM

maybe we can re-visit this issue - Vegas 6 is supposed to have enhanced conversion?
 
Hi all...

I'm trying to still understand why the Vegas comparison chart @ Sony's website says that Vegas 6 has unique "60i to 24p" conversions capability. So, what's new? Charile White's article too hints that now CF24 can be converted to true 24p.

How?

I have upgraded to Vegas 6 because at last the injustice of having to pay "separate" for HDV capture/workflow via Cineform add-on has been rectified.

Now as much as I am excited by vasst products such as gearshift, etc. - pls. tell me that there must be a way to get the 24p "fix" in Vegas 6 again without having to resort to costly 3rd party add-ons...???

Can anyone confirm by the way that gearshift does in fact give a result for Sony HDV akin to Panasonic 24p?

Spot, I love your work at vasst etc. and all you've given to the Vegas community - this is not some attack at you - I'm frustrated that Sony in some regards seems to "hold back" on certain things and leaves it up to 3rd parties to "pick up the slack."

So if we now want to convert cf24 to true 24p in Vegas 6, what do we do?

thanks!

Philippe Gosselin April 22nd, 2005 05:43 PM

Boris red with Vegas , or any external plugin for that matter
 
Hi all,


Quick question here , computer crashed and reinstalled Vegas and Red and I see the Red files in the Sony\shard plugins folder but the plugin is nowhere to be found in Vegas.

Anybody got an idea ?

Thanks

Edward Troxel April 22nd, 2005 11:35 PM

I believe there's a DLL file you need to drag to the timeline in order to "register" Boris in Vegas.

Leo Anderson April 23rd, 2005 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
A "Pink clip" means that your audio and video are out of sync. If you have the "Show active take name" turned on, it will also give you the amount of offset.

Right-click one or the other and you'll see a new "Syncronize" menu option with which you can resync them.

That's a great new feature! Thanks for the quick response.

I am loving this new version. The Media Manager alone is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

Derek Grimes April 23rd, 2005 10:40 AM

Picture montage Help needed!!!
 
I am doing a project and the client wants over 200 pictures in the montage!! I do not want to just pan and crop. Any ideas would be helpful. I am currently using vegas 5.

Philippe Gosselin April 23rd, 2005 11:09 AM

Boy Ed , yu are right , when I drop the dll files on the timeline it asked me if I wanted to register. I did say yes of course but when I relaunch Vegas there is still no Boris option either in the Transition or FX window

Got any more idea's then :)

Thanks

Chris Hurd April 23rd, 2005 12:03 PM

Hi Derek,

We'll need to know what sort of software you have on hand now, and from there we can either give some advice about how to use your existing software options or recommend something different.

By the way, please don't cross-post; your duplicate message in another forum has been removed. This one left intact since it's in the general PC Editing forum. Hope this helps,

Derek Grimes April 23rd, 2005 12:54 PM

Using vegas 5
 
I am using vegas 5 for this montage.


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