Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Mark Williams · October 1st, 2005, 11:23 AM

Harry,

What type problems are you having with the ATI 9600? I have one running with Pro1 in a Dell Optiplex, 2.8 Pentium IV, w/1 GB ram for about 3 months now and everything has been working flawlessly. Rendering times seem to be reasonable. Of course I am not running any other programs in the background so I think this has had a positive effect.

Regards,

Mark

Harry Lender · October 1st, 2005, 04:05 PM

Hi Mark
Actually I'm not having any problems with the 9600. I 've had it for about 1 1/2 years. Like you I have 1 Gig of Ram 1.8 mhz board and render times are ok. Nothing blazing but that's ok. It is a solid card.I also like to Flight Sim alot. It's there that I have alittle problem. Things that are aggravating like changing views it hesitates somewhat. anyway as for PPRO 1.5 it does, I guess, as advertised. Just putting feelers out to see if anyone has had experience with the x800. Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it.

Harry

Noah Yuan-Vogel · October 2nd, 2005, 01:46 PM

I do not think you'll get any faster render times with a new video card. I believe encoding DV is mainly a CPU operation. I dont have experience with the X800 but im sure it is a fast card, but only get it if you need more 3D performance. Get it for flight sim not for Premiere. Premiere is 2D, and I do not imagine it to be extremely demanding from your GPU. I, too, have an ATI9600 and even it doesnt seem to make 2d apps run any faster than a budget nvidia fx5200.

Harry Lender · October 2nd, 2005, 02:47 PM

Hi Noah
I guess I should save my money untill it comes down abit more. $300 is a chunk of change. I can put up with a little stutter with my Fltsim until then. I appreciate your input.
Take Care
Harry

Stephen Finton · October 2nd, 2005, 07:13 PM

Try a MATROX Parhelia.

Aanarav Sareen · October 2nd, 2005, 08:29 PM

No need to go back to Photoshop.

1. Duplicate your clip and place it on a track higher
2. Apply the garbage matte filter (4, 8 or 16 point) to the second clip
3. Make sure that the garbage matte includes the sky only.
4. Apply effects to the sky as needed.

- Aanarav Sareen, ACE
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro

Jimmy McKenzie · October 2nd, 2005, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aanarav Sareen

No need to go back to Photoshop.

1. Duplicate your clip and place it on a track higher
2. Apply the garbage matte filter (4, 8 or 16 point) to the second clip
3. Make sure that the garbage matte includes the sky only.
4. Apply effects to the sky as needed.

- Aanarav Sareen, ACE
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro

?
I guess so ... but show me a clip with perfectly polygonic sky that has exactly 4 or 8 selection points that allow the creator to precisely key the sky against say a stand of trees. Or perhaps a few buildings...
Impossible.
Photoshop is the essential tool for this effect.

Aanarav Sareen · October 3rd, 2005, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy McKenzie

?
I guess so ... but show me a clip with perfectly polygonic sky that has exactly 4 or 8 selection points that allow the creator to precisely key the sky against say a stand of trees. Or perhaps a few buildings...
Impossible.
Photoshop is the essential tool for this effect.

Unless you want to do it frame by frame, then yes Photoshop is your best method. But, if you want to eye-ball it, use the 16 point garbage matte. Either way, both methods won't be perfect depending on the amount of movement in the video.

Peter Jefferson · October 3rd, 2005, 06:48 AM

waht your wanting is something claled a "region Filter" which many Canopus would be used to using.
basically it does exactly what u want it to do to either a specific colour, colour range, or selected area.

2 ways u can get this happenin in premiere is to get a Storm2 card, install the plugs and a plugin called "storm effects" and run the canopus driver plugins and hope that they dont fall over...

or u can grab a copy of Edius Pro 3 and run that on ur premiere system and do it in software... u can find cheap s/h edius packages on ebay

Murry Dalton · October 4th, 2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Douglas

Like i mentioned earlier, I shoot High School and College sports. Unfortunately i can't just break out the digital camera and take pictures of the action. Is there a way I can take a single frame of my video in PP 1.5 and save it as a jpeg picture file that i can edit in Photoshop or Msft PictureIt?

Hi Ryan, I just came across your post 6 months later. I was looking for the same. I just found a software developer that makes a program that will pull single frames from your video. You can download a free trial. the final product will only cost you $30.00. Go to http://www.frame-shots.com

Gareth Watkins · October 4th, 2005, 12:53 AM

Hi Ryan and Co

I do just as Sheila says, very quick and easy....and from my FX1 I get pretty nice stills for a video camera...

a couple of points...
1) I find it better to de-interlace the shot in Photoshop
Filter> Video > de-interlace...

It sort of snaps the shot sharper by removing the aliasing and interpolating a new field in its place...

2) As it shoots 16.9 I have to stretch the shot out to the right proportions using the image resize...

Hope this helps

Gareth

Ed Smith · October 5th, 2005, 05:04 AM

Hi Mike,

Lipsync can be associated with disk bandwidth/ general performance.

How much space do you have left on your media drive/ how much is used up? What sort of Harddrive is it? What speed does it run at?

You also need to meet the recommened system spec here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html

Just a few things to look into...

Cheers,

Ken E. Williams · October 5th, 2005, 09:16 AM

FWIW I have similar symptoms regarding the drifting out of A-V sync. I'm my case, it is related to the latency/delay caused by using a M-audio USB Audiophile. When I use the PC's soundcard there is no problem.

Regards,

Ken W.

Petr Lesner · October 5th, 2005, 10:33 AM

Question: I have made a movie using Premiere Standard, but when I encode and burn it using MyDVD 4.5, the footage temporary freeze's after each "Black video" clip. It also begins at the first image rather than the begining of the video.
I'm new to this so any advice would be great. I also tried burning it with Honestech with the same result.

Petr.

Christopher Lefchik · October 5th, 2005, 10:43 AM

In Premiere Pro, go to Project>Project Settings>Video Rendering. Uncheck "Optimize Stills." Then re-export your avi and encode/burn your DVD.

October 1st, 2005, 04:05 PM	#1607
Harry Lender Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles, Mo Posts: 261	What Video Card to use with PPro Hi Mark Actually I'm not having any problems with the 9600. I 've had it for about 1 1/2 years. Like you I have 1 Gig of Ram 1.8 mhz board and render times are ok. Nothing blazing but that's ok. It is a solid card.I also like to Flight Sim alot. It's there that I have alittle problem. Things that are aggravating like changing views it hesitates somewhat. anyway as for PPRO 1.5 it does, I guess, as advertised. Just putting feelers out to see if anyone has had experience with the x800. Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it. Harry

October 2nd, 2005, 08:29 PM	#1611
Aanarav Sareen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NJ, US Posts: 183	No need to go back to Photoshop. 1. Duplicate your clip and place it on a track higher 2. Apply the garbage matte filter (4, 8 or 16 point) to the second clip 3. Make sure that the garbage matte includes the sky only. 4. Apply effects to the sky as needed. - Aanarav Sareen, ACE Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro __________________ http://www.sareen.tv

October 5th, 2005, 05:04 AM	#1617
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Mike, Lipsync can be associated with disk bandwidth/ general performance. How much space do you have left on your media drive/ how much is used up? What sort of Harddrive is it? What speed does it run at? You also need to meet the recommened system spec here: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html Just a few things to look into... Cheers, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

October 5th, 2005, 09:16 AM	#1618
Ken E. Williams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 55	FWIW I have similar symptoms regarding the drifting out of A-V sync. I'm my case, it is related to the latency/delay caused by using a M-audio USB Audiophile. When I use the PC's soundcard there is no problem. Regards, Ken W. Last edited by Ken E. Williams; October 5th, 2005 at 11:28 AM.

October 5th, 2005, 10:33 AM	#1619
Petr Lesner New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	Problem burning DVD from Premiere Standard Question: I have made a movie using Premiere Standard, but when I encode and burn it using MyDVD 4.5, the footage temporary freeze's after each "Black video" clip. It also begins at the first image rather than the begining of the video. I'm new to this so any advice would be great. I also tried burning it with Honestech with the same result. Petr.

October 1st, 2005, 11:23 AM	#1606
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Harry, What type problems are you having with the ATI 9600? I have one running with Pro1 in a Dell Optiplex, 2.8 Pentium IV, w/1 GB ram for about 3 months now and everything has been working flawlessly. Rendering times seem to be reasonable. Of course I am not running any other programs in the background so I think this has had a positive effect. Regards, Mark

October 2nd, 2005, 01:46 PM	#1608
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	I do not think you'll get any faster render times with a new video card. I believe encoding DV is mainly a CPU operation. I dont have experience with the X800 but im sure it is a fast card, but only get it if you need more 3D performance. Get it for flight sim not for Premiere. Premiere is 2D, and I do not imagine it to be extremely demanding from your GPU. I, too, have an ATI9600 and even it doesnt seem to make 2d apps run any faster than a budget nvidia fx5200.

October 2nd, 2005, 02:47 PM	#1609
Harry Lender Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles, Mo Posts: 261	Hi Noah I guess I should save my money untill it comes down abit more. $300 is a chunk of change. I can put up with a little stutter with my Fltsim until then. I appreciate your input. Take Care Harry

October 2nd, 2005, 07:13 PM	#1610
Stephen Finton Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 344	Try a MATROX Parhelia.

October 3rd, 2005, 06:48 AM	#1614
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	waht your wanting is something claled a "region Filter" which many Canopus would be used to using. basically it does exactly what u want it to do to either a specific colour, colour range, or selected area. 2 ways u can get this happenin in premiere is to get a Storm2 card, install the plugs and a plugin called "storm effects" and run the canopus driver plugins and hope that they dont fall over... or u can grab a copy of Edius Pro 3 and run that on ur premiere system and do it in software... u can find cheap s/h edius packages on ebay

October 4th, 2005, 12:53 AM	#1616
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi Ryan and Co I do just as Sheila says, very quick and easy....and from my FX1 I get pretty nice stills for a video camera... a couple of points... 1) I find it better to de-interlace the shot in Photoshop Filter> Video > de-interlace... It sort of snaps the shot sharper by removing the aliasing and interpolating a new field in its place... 2) As it shoots 16.9 I have to stretch the shot out to the right proportions using the image resize... Hope this helps Gareth

October 5th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#1620
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	In Premiere Pro, go to Project>Project Settings>Video Rendering. Uncheck "Optimize Stills." Then re-export your avi and encode/burn your DVD.