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Rob Lohman May 19th, 2004 04:33 PM

Otherwise try the demo of TMPGEnc to encode it to AVI.

You are copying the file first to harddisk before opening right?
Make sure the file is *not* read-only (properties).

Scott Silverman May 19th, 2004 04:45 PM

Good news! Multicam will release support for Premiere Pro 1.5!
 
I don't know how many of you are familar with the United Media Multicam software, but it easily allows you to do a "live mix" of up to four camera sources in Premiere.

They still up to this point have not supported Premiere Pro, and so I emailed them about when they will be supporting it. This was the reply I got back:

Quote:

Hi Scott,
Thanks for visiting our website and for your interest in United Media's Multicam software. Multicam is awsome for editing 2-4 camera sources. It will save you hours and hours in post-production time. We allow the ability to play, edit, scub and view between 4-camera sources at one time in REALTIME. You will love it! We will be releasing support for PPro within the next 2-3 weeks tops. This will support PPro 1.5. If you purchase Multicam today you will receive the upgrade for FREE. Please let us know if you need further assistance or if you wish to purchase your copyof Multicam today.
Thanks,
Leslie Brath
United Media, Inc.
(714) 777-4510 ext. 110
The only downside to this software is the price! It costs $600 for the 4 camera version!!

Peter Richardson May 19th, 2004 05:40 PM

Thanks Rob. I copied to harddisk before opening on Avid, but I don't think we did that on the Premiere machine. We'll try that and check out the properties...and download the program you suggest. Thanks again,

peter

Roger Golub May 19th, 2004 09:10 PM

Keyframes in 6.5
 
I've finally figured out the general concept behind keyframes and they are quite entertaining and useful. However, there appears to be this wierd construct in 6.5 that restricts keyframing to tracks above 1.

Ok, so I can put the clip in track 2 and twiddle.... But what if I want to do a transform?

What's the deal here? I'm certainly missing something rather obvious as usual. I however,

<rant>
won't whine too long ABOUT THE TERRIBLE DOCUMENTATION THAT COMES WITH THE PROGRAM....
</rant>

I'll just ask for help.

Brendan Sundry May 20th, 2004 07:34 AM

P3 1Ghz 320 Ramfor PremPro
 
Would i be able to run Premiere Pro on this, or would i be best running 6.5 and color correcting in after effects?

Jeff Summers May 20th, 2004 02:22 PM

Has anyone had hands-on experience with the new version yet? I am trying to decide if the upgrade cost warrants upgrade. Feature lists look good but I would love to hear about real world experience. I have been fighting a little bit with Premier Pro 1.0 and Encore with some DVD authoring and titling features and I am hoping to hear this version is stable.

Jeff

Kyle Kauss May 20th, 2004 02:22 PM

Exporting a 16:9 video clip
 
I want to export a 16:9 video clip with the black bars on top and bottom but it never works. I'm using Adobe Premiere pro and 6.0 and I can't get it with either any help would be cool. Oh by the way I don't care if it's quicktime or Window media video just as long as the bars show up.

Ed Smith May 20th, 2004 02:49 PM

hi Roger,

You should be able to apply effects with keyframe to any clip on any track in an Adobe timeline, whether it be in track 1a, 1b or 2. Or any other tracks you wish to have. You can not do any opacity changes in tracks 1a or 1b. If you wish to fade up or fade down then you can use the dissolve transition.

Can you please be a bit more descriptive about "twiddling". Please tell us how you are applying keyframes and effects at the moment.

Cheers,

Ed

Ed Smith May 20th, 2004 02:55 PM

Brendan,

Please look at Adobes web site:

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html

Although your system fits into the minimum spec, you will probably find it sluggish, and most things will take longer to do. Most people seem to have good results running it on a P4 2.4GHz with 1GB RAM.

If you do a search you'll find more results on this sort of subject.
Heres 1 such thread that might interest you:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=22277

Hope this helps,

Ben Gurvich May 21st, 2004 12:04 PM

You should be right mate

Nick Medrano May 21st, 2004 05:58 PM

I got my copy of Adobe Premiere 1.5 today and installed it.

It was a breeze. Everything seems a bit faster and the program seems to run like its bulletproof.

So far so good. I have also used the 24p features and it's great (I have the DVX100).

Adobe also threw in some nice little bonuses (extra filters, plugins, etc).

Good so far!

Steven Gotz May 21st, 2004 07:27 PM

You might find it interesting to check the "Plugin Loading.log" and see how many of the Adobe After Effects 6.5 effects get loaded in Premiere Pro 1.5 once you have the new After Effects.

Ed Smith May 22nd, 2004 01:18 PM

Kyle,

We are probably going to need more information.

If I understand your messge correctly, you shot in 16x9 (squished) and you want to convert this footage into 4:3 so your 16x9 footage is kept in the same aspect ratio but with black bars top and bottom?

The way that I have done it in 6 and 6.5 was to capture in with the 16x9 template. Then start a new project 4x3. Import in the footage you captured 16x9 into the 4x3 project. Drag clips into timeline, right click and choose video options, then click on maintain aspect ratio. When rendered you should have black bars top and bottom. Export movie in 4x3 using QT or WMV.

I hope thats what you mean?

Scott Silverman May 23rd, 2004 05:49 PM

Well, I just ordered Premiere Pro 1.5 with Express Shipping. Hopefully it will be here by Wednesday. I'll let you know what I think when it comes in.

The one thing I think Premiere has been lacking for a while is some multiple camera editing functions. For $700 software it sure is falling behind! And I shouldn't have to go out and buy another $600 plugin (Multicam) to get it. Unfortunately it doesn't look like Adobe put any new multiple camera features into Premiere 1.5. What do you guys do for multiple cameras in Premiere?

Thanks.

Kyle Kauss May 23rd, 2004 06:56 PM

oh that's exactly what I wanted, I have captured them in 16:9 and tried exporting them in 4:3 but it never worked I will try capturing in 16:9 then switching to a 4:3 project and importing them hopefully that works thanks.

Roger Golub May 23rd, 2004 09:23 PM

Well, as you point out - I was missing something obvious (you have to apply a transformation to the clip before you can see the keyframe dialog). Sigh.

"Twiddling", of course, is a very technical term for playing around with software to see if you can get it to do what you want. Currently, I'm stymied in a attempt to get a clip to go in reverse and then apply a transform (in this case the "transform" control).

I have taken a clip, given it the speed of "-100" to play in reverse. This works in preview and in output. I then placed a keyframe in the middle of the clip and tried to use the "transform" control to magnify and crop part of the image.

This does not seem to work. Premiere seems to just ignore it. If I perform the same operation on the clip without changing it's direction, it works as advertised and expected. I'm likely missing something fairly obvious again. It seems that whoever wrote Premier has a different concept of an intuitive user interface than I. I'm toying with the idea of switching NLE's but have a fair amount of time and money in Premiere so I'm going to keep plugging away until it makes sense. Had a similar problem with Photoshop years ago, now it works OK for me and what's left of my brain.

Thanks for the reply.... RG

Johnny Chiang May 24th, 2004 05:51 AM

Jagged edges for titles created in PPro
 
As opposed to the titles I created in After Effects which are razor sharp...why is that?

David Hurdon May 24th, 2004 07:11 AM

One fix is to export the clip you've reversed and then re-import it to replace the original. Then you should be able to carry on with additional twiddling. 8=)

David Hurdon

Kyle Kauss May 24th, 2004 07:47 AM

That didn't do it I still can't get the black bars
I'm using a Sony dvr-70 (I'm pretty sure that's what it is I have premiere 6.0 and pro. I've filmed in widescreen using the option on the menu with the camera. Anyone know how to get the black bars to come up in the picture??

Jeff Summers May 24th, 2004 09:33 AM

Given that some of you now have the software installed, what features were you most looking forward to and have you been disappointed in how they were implemented? The flip side of that is what new features were you not expecting but now are finding them invaluable? I realize this is kind of sudden since Premier Pro 1.5 just began shipping last week but I am curious of everyone's first impressions. I plan to order my upgrade soon if nothing else just so that I can have a mores stable environment. Premier Pro 1.0 has been crashing lately when I have been dealing with large projects using lots of transitions and different media types.

Jeff

Lukah Sighs May 24th, 2004 01:18 PM

0 -1 ...
 
hi,

can someone help me with this: when i open my project, the entire timeline is disappeared. the names of my clips are renamed in -1 an 0...which means i've lost everything. i heard something about a wrong way of capturing audio (44 khz instead of 48 khz for mp3 converting). is this possible?


thanx
lukah

Lukah Sighs May 24th, 2004 02:24 PM

notebook editing
 
hi,

i wonder if it's a good idea to buy a notebook for editing (premiere) my filmwork. 2.4 ghz and 512 ram?? maybe i can connect an external hard disc or is it too risky to do my post- production on a notebook?

thanx,
lukah

Roger Golub May 24th, 2004 03:00 PM

Thought about that - it should work. Not particulary elegant, although I'm not sure I worry about that given some of the other things I tend to do.

I was hoping to avoid a multiple step process since this particular manipulation (running backwards and doing the transform) is something I would do on an intermittent basis). Perhaps not.

Shane Kinloch May 24th, 2004 05:28 PM

G'day Lukah,

I have a P4 with HT Laptop with 1GB RAM, internal 80GB HDD for apps, external 250GB HDD connected via USB2.0 for video files and an ATI Raideon 9600 graphics card. I use Adobe Premiere Pro, After Effects 6, Audition and Encore.

I'm getting superb results using this system and find I have plenty of workspace on my 15 Inch screen at 1400 x 1050 res.

It's a very expensive system, but in my opinion the ease of movement and small pack-up size makes up for this. If you are going to be moving a lot or doing a lot of editing and capturing in the field then a high-end laptop is a great, yet expensive solution. Only buy a laptop for editing if you require a higher level of mobility.

Shane.

John DeLuca May 25th, 2004 12:20 AM

grain in post
 
I recently shot a wedding that prohibited the use of onboard lights(shot with GL2). Refusing to drop the shutter, I have some mild to severe grain. I was wondering what options, if any, I have for getting it out in adobie pro. Thanks for any advice


John DeLuca

Rob Lohman May 25th, 2004 02:33 AM

Please supply us with some more information:

1) version of Premiere (exact version -> see about box)

2) operating system you are using

3) system layout. Are those clips and project files on the same harddisk / partition. Is it on an external harddisk?

4) tried rebooting the PC?

5) what camera did you use and how did you capture

etc.

Mark Jefferson May 25th, 2004 10:40 AM

Check out this link:

http://www.digitalvideofuel.com/PreFix.htm

It is the fix for your problem. Good luck! Also, if this doesn't work, you can try to restore an achived file (Fernando's fix is a better solution, however, because you won't lose any work)

Kyle Kauss May 25th, 2004 12:07 PM

Okay if I film in 16:9 on my Sony and then import it and edit it on Premiere Pro and put it out to a 16:9 DVD using Premiere Pro will the black bars show up??

Ed Smith May 25th, 2004 12:15 PM

Kyle,

Are you sure you selected maintain aspect ratio on the clip in the timeline? If you check the properties of the clip does it say 16x9? If I remember rightly there was a bug related to aspect ratio in P6, but I believe it was fixed in 6.5 and pro?

If you put the 16x9 footage straight into a 16x9 DVD then on a widescreen TV, it will fill the whole screen. If you preview it on a 4x3 TV, and your DVD player supports it then it should have black bars top and bottom.

If what I mentioned before is not working, then you can apply the transform filter, and squish the picture manually. If you just want black bars and you are not worried about the footage looking vertically squished, then you can apply a widesreen matte from adobes title designer.

Topics on this sort of subject has appeared before, try a search and see what results come back.

Lukah Sighs May 25th, 2004 03:56 PM

thanx!

lukah

Ed Smith May 26th, 2004 02:44 AM

Johnny,

Can you please explain what you are doing? I have never seen this problem. Could it be the compression type you are using on your footage. How are you previewing it? Does it happen if you import a title made in photoshop?

It could just be that after effects alpha is better or that its titles have a better engine?

Kyle Kauss May 26th, 2004 07:16 AM

Okay if I capture the video in Pro and export it to a .mov then it keeps the black bars so I'd asume it would do that with the DVD to (I'll try it sometime) but I looked at the properties and it didn't say anything about it being 16:9. So I don't know but it did work when I exported it to a mov file but It didn't when I tried to expoet it to a window media video. So we'll see I'm shooting a short here and I want to do it in widescreen so I'm just making sure it will work.

Ed Smith May 26th, 2004 09:34 AM

Grain is pretty hard to get rid of in post. However most find that placing 2 instances of the clip, 1 in video track 1 and the other in track 2, then setting a 50% opacity on the clip in track 2 will reduce the problem. They need to be lined up identically. If you don't mind slighty blurred footage then apply a guassian blur, that should also reduce it.

Cheers,

John DeLuca May 26th, 2004 10:24 AM

Ed, thank you for helping out the little guys. Im new to pro, and still have alot to learn. Im playing around with it now, ill repost and let you know how it came out. Thanks again.


John DeLuca

Anita Hu May 26th, 2004 04:50 PM

black and white with a pinch of color
 
Anybody know how take black and white video (made by applying the filter) but say, color a small portion (like a Bride's bouquet in a wedding) using Adobe Pro?

Matthew de Jongh May 26th, 2004 07:08 PM

5.1 pan/surround not showing in premiere
 
ok
i'm trying to do a pretty basic surround sound project in premiere pro.

i have a video of a performance where on the left channel i have the clean sound off of the sound board via wireless and on the right channel i have sound from a shotgun mic pointed at the audience.

i want to put the clean soundboard sound on the front speakers and the audience sound on the back speakers.

i can't even get started as in the mixer i can't get the pan thingie to even show up...

i have the balance button but not that rectangular box with the front/back/center speaker icons etc.

any suggestions on how to get this sucker t show up??

matthew

Ed Smith May 27th, 2004 02:40 AM

Rather than explaining it step by step, take a look at wrigley videos Premiere tutorials.

Take a look here, Colour Pass effect:

http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotut...premiere60.htm

Although this is for P6 the same effects should still be in Pro.

Anita Hu May 27th, 2004 08:17 AM

Thanks! Exactly what I needed.

Ming Dong May 27th, 2004 05:28 PM

How do you sync audio in post?
 
If one uses an MD recorder to record audio, how easy/difficult is it to sync with the video in post? Generally speaking, how is it done in PPro?

Thanks!

Richard Alvarez May 27th, 2004 07:05 PM

Synching is usually done visually with a slate or some other visual clue (Light flash, hand clap, tapping the mike on camera...)


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