to widescreen mode or not?
 

hi, i am making a movie in premiere for a dvd and i was wondering if its smart to use premiere's widescreen mode or not? i will be shooting in widescreen mode, but should i just resize the video and use normal mode in premiere? does it matter?

Okay, thanks for the info.

The issue is still occuring, so I'm going to supply my encoding selections.

[File>Export>Movie[clicked]Settings]

[General]

File Type: Microsoft AVI
Range: Entire Sequence
[Checked] Export video [Unchecked]Add to project when finished]
[Checked]Export audio [Unchecked]Beep when finished
Embeding options: None

[Video]

Compressor: DivX 5.0.1 codec
Color Depth: Millions of colors
Frame size: 720h 480v(I've adjusted this with no luck) 16:9
Frame Rate: 24.00 FPS (I've adjust this with no luck)

D1/DV NTSC (0.9) (I've also done d1/dv ntsc wide screen 16:9 91.2))

Quality(box)
100% (this is unselectable)

Data rate(box)

[Unchecked] limit data rate to: (unselectable) 3500k/s
[Unchecked] Recompress: (unselecatable) maintain data rate

[Keyframe and Rendering]
Rendering options (box)
Fields: No Fields (Proggrassive scan) (I've also done lower first with no luck)
[Unchecked]deinterlace video footage (I have rendered with it checked with no luck)
[unchecked] Optimize stills (i've had this checked too)

Keyframe Options (box)
[Unchecked] Key frame ever (unselectable) 10 frames
[Unchecked] Add key frames at markers
[Unchecked] Add keyframes as edits

[Audio]
Compressor: Uncompressed
Sample Rate: 44100hz
Sample Type: 16 bit
Channels: Stereo
Interleave: 1 Frame

Here is a picture of the issue:

http://www.busstopproductions.com/issue.jpg

Also I had a jpeg in the video and I was told that it could be the source of the issue I removed it and the issue still arouse. Also I am using the title maker, I'm going to remove everything but film and see if the issue occurs.

exporting dvd at 23.976 fps?
 

i just learned premiere pro can do this, will this just take out frames (not slow down the video)? if so, this is great!

Why are you shooting in "widescreen" (ie, 16:9)? I'm assuming
you do not have a 16:9 native camera or an anamorphic
attachment for your camera. So no, it doesn't make much sense
other than that it might save you some time to do it with letter-
boxing yourself.

If you shoot 16:9 stay with that the whole way. So yes, edit,
encode and author in 16:9 as well. That's the easiest thing to
do in this case.

You will need to set the pixel aspect ratio to 1.0. I think you will
in this case also need to set the output size to 864 * 480
(720 * 1.2 PA).

See what this does. The picture you've put up seems very odd
indeed. Which versions of Premiere are you using?

I'm also thinking that 24 fps is wrong for your movie. With what
camera did you shoot this and at what framerate? Most NTSC
camera's shoot at 29.97 fps, not 24 fps.

Depending on your Premiere version these two things could
cause streaking/blurring (framerate & resolution).

Are you SURE your footage is 16:9?

What are your PROJECT settings in Premiere?

well yes and no...

what camera did you shoot your footage with?

matthew

canon xl1s

Yes it will take out frames since the Canon records at 29.97 fps.
This should not look to good on pans (slow movement) and
fast movements. You might want to try those things out before
going ahead.

well maybe i'm wrong but to my thinking, unless your camera is capable of shooting in 24 frames, and you actually shot the footage in the 24 frame mode, what is the point of trying to make it output at 24 frames?

my panasonic dvx-100a will shoot in 60i, 24p that is written to the tape in 60i, or true 24 frames progressive.

matthew

Matthew: the Canon XL1(S) does not allow shooting in 24fps...
Just so you know.

yeah i knew that.

as far as a i know the dvx-100(a) is one of the very few that does 24p and the others are very high end cameras.

matthew

Does Premier Pro work with DV500?
 

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Some Good News!!!
 

This is from ADS website, makers of the pyro cards:

Headlines
ADS Tech announces Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 support for entire PYRO DV product line.
Upgrade details coming soon.

This Good, Good News

Will try it. Thanks.

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Did I go over board?

Pinnacle have stopped producing drivers for Premiere. The last version that will work with the drivers is P6.5. It will only work with pinnacles own NLE range Liquid Purple.

However you can still install PP on your system and use the card as a standard firewire card. You will however not get any of Pinnacles effects, and you will not be able to use the breakout box. I would suggest that if you want a RT capture board then Matrox are currently doing a great offer where you can trade in your DV500 card and get an RTX 100 at a slight discount. Your system will need to be quite powerful though.

Hope this helps,

So that would be why!!! That makes sense, I guess it would be using the 1.0 drivers currently which is why it is doing wired things...

Compatibility with DVD Cam
 

I saw that the sony dvd101 is not a supported camera for premire pro on the adobe web site. This camera uses DVD and records in mpeg2 format, or whatever is the norm for dvds. Does this mean that video taken with this camera cannot be taken into premire to be edited etc.

Also, if there is soem plug-in to support it, would my video look really crappy since DV is 17Gb per hour, and theis is 3 gb per hour?

depends on your audience
 

Hi there.

I guess the answer depends upon whether your audience will be watching in wide screen? If a person doesn’t have a wide screen TV would he/she be happy with your widescreen DVD?

Internet is another matter. My last film combines widescreen and regular 4x3 footage. 4x3 inside of 16x9 leaves enough space for moving titles on both sides. Please visit my WEB site if you care to watch an example: http://www.videoclassified.com/. An icon on the front page with a lady in a red dress will show a wide screen movie.

i had a premiere pro project with a few files that i burned onto a dvd rom to move to a new computer. I was surpsied when premiere found all the files itself (they were all in one folder this time, but were not when i took the files off the computer for burning onto dvd). must be a new feature.

DVD101 records in mpeg2 (DVD format). I know of no software that can edit mpeg2.

The review I read said video quality is on par with other 1-ccd cameras.

Richard:

Sorry for taking a while to get back... The day job and all of that.


Have you removed the DV500 and the Pinnacle software? If not, try that - at least uninstall the software and just ignore XP when it gets all excited that it found something new....

Run it for a while.

If the problem goes away (and yes, these intermittent problems are really annoying), then it's something in the Pinnacle system. You could then pop over to the Pinnacle forum (http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_forums.asp?WebboardID=4&SectionID=12) to see if they can help.

If it doesn't go away - then you've got a Problem with PP. I've not had much luck with Adobe tech support, although I think they have a sponsored forum, someone there might be able to help.

Another tactic would be to see if you get a specific error on your BSOD. If so, copy it down and run a google search with the error terms and perhaps add "Athalon" and "Windows XP" or any other keyword that you can think of.

It's likely someone else has dealt with this before. I often get at least hints on how to fix problems that way.

Also, if you haven't tried it - take your PP defaults away from the Pinnacle options (use generic DV). This can also help isolate things and it's faster than pulling the board and uninstalling the software.

Good luck!

Thanks for your help and suggestions.

I shall try the options you have suggested.

My life has been full of intermittent and very annoying problems with DV500 and Premier.

Welcome to the club.... If and when I upgrade this machine, I'm going to move to another NLE. I'm in general pretty annoyed with Adobe. Their support is abysmal. There policies for licensing worse. I really don't want to be stuck with XP if I don't have to - I prefer Win2K and most likely, the next versions Premiere and Photoshop will only run on Longhorn (assuming, of course, they actually ship it in our lifetimes). If Photoshop wasn't the industry standard for stills, I wouldn't use it. Since Premiere has some really strong competition in the video world, I will avail myself of it. After I finish paying off the new Nikon D100.

Sigh.

Let me know if you need additional wild goose chases.

Maybe this is bunk, but if it crashes so hard it doesn't even give you a BSOD, I'd lean toward believing it is a fundamental hardware problem. On XP, check the system log in the Administrative Tools; just maybe there will be a clue there as to what's making it unhappy...if not, it probably isn't software. I do agree that you ought to remove all extra hardware and its software (SB, Pinnacle, etc) to track down the culprit.

Failing that, here's just a shot in the dark ... but since you have a new system it may be worth a try. My ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard is P4 hardware, but I suspect the MB manufacturers have similar circuitry in the "guts" of all of their boards.

Anyway, I found that using automatic BIOS settings for memory timings caused incessant, random BSOD's. I manually entered the correct timings per the memory manufacturer's specs (in this case Corsair TwinX), and the system became rock stable. I noticed also on Corsair's web site that the memory timings for their DDR sticks were different for AMD and Intel processors. I suspect that the ASUS board's automatic memory timing function either had overly aggressive memory timings programmed in or misread the memory's timing capabilities. Even if your MB is from a different manufacturer, it might be worth a try.

FWIW, I don't happen to share Roger's opinion about either XP or Adobe. I use Adobe Vid Collection Pro 2.5 on a 3GHz P4 machine VERY happily. I was slow to adopt XP from Win2K Pro, but I REALLY like XP's additional functionality and ease of use. (One tidbit though...I join the chorus on the online world in saying "disable Indexing Service!")

Seems to me that Adobe is about on par with any other major software company in terms of bugs and customer support. I don't use GoLive, but sounds like a lot of people have had severe crash problems with it. There have been bugs in previous Adobe products I've used, as with Microsoft and everyone else's software. I've observed zero crashes so far with Vid Collection 2.5 -- or anything else -- in a few weeks of hard use and it is a joy to use (given that I'm already familiar with the Adobe interface). The only "bug" -- which really is a graphics card OpenGL issue -- is that After Effects 6.5 Pro needs a very simple manual tweak to an *.ini setting to install properly if you have >1GB of RAM. Adobe posted an explanation of what the issue was, with that simple workaround, on their message board almost immediately...can't complain about that.

Best o' luck on the crash problem.

New At This Whole NLE Thing - Storing video captured in Premiere
 

Here's my question(s):

Working an internship this summer collecting a bunch of footage (using an XL1S) for an employer who will eventually be editing it with Premiere. We'd like to pull the raw footage off of the MiniDV tapes and store it on DVDs. (Would like to do this because we don't have enough hard drive space to store all of the video clips and would like to reuse the tapes.) The idea then would be that when we get around to editing we'd just capture video clips from the dvds rather than capturing from the tape, etc . . .

Is such a thing ever done? Can it be done? If so, how would I do it in Premiere? Would I just capture the video and copy the captured video files to dvd? Should I copy the scratch disks?

New To This Whole NLE thing: Premiere to Final Cut Pro (related to my other post)
 

One additional question related to my other post:

I'd like to take video files that were captured with Premiere Pro and edit them in FCP. Is this possible? If so, how would I do it?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Storing on DVD
 

I do not claim to be any kind of digital expert, as I have only been using the digital format for the past year and a half.
It is my understanding though, that making a DVD changes the video file format. It is no longer just an avi.....it's now VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and you are not able to just export that into the timeline.
The only solution (I've found) to get it back into the timeline is to copy the DVD back on to mini dv tape...as through a stand alone dvd player with output to your mini dv camera in VCR mode, or a mini dv deck.
I suppose you'd save on using a lot of mini dv tapes for storage if you didn't intend to go back and use all the footage you store on DVD's, but it is more work to get the footage back into the timeline, with the additional step of re-recording.

I'm suppose some editing computers can play the DVD's with an output back to tape, mine does not.

I just save my master edits on tape as well as DVD...that way I can just copy the DVD's if I need more, and if I need to re-edit, I just capture the edit master tape back into Premier.

Hope this helped.

Ken, I don't think he wants to make DVD's that can be played on a standalone dvd player, he just wants to store raw data on DVD's the same way you'd back up all different kinds of files to a CD or a Zip or tape or HD or another storage medium.

As for backing up to DVD's, it may save you some money but do you really want to spend all that time burning and later transferring back again to a hard drive? Hard drives are not that expensive you know.

I download tons of stuff, and I used to burn DVD's to free up space whenever the hd reached full capacity. However, I found that burning and keeping track of the growing pile of DVD's was often a time-consuming headache. Now I rarely use my burner for that reason. When I run out of space, I just run out to the computer store and buy another hard drive!

I have 3 maxtors (160 gb) which take turns plugging into my laptop via firewire or usb, and it saves me so much time. No burning and swapping discs, but best of all no worries about maintaining an index to catalogue the content on your discs.

If you're lazy like me, then convenience, I believe, is sometimes worth paying a little more for.

Jason: one tip: do *NOT* recycle DV tapes. Just don't do it.
Ofcourse you want reasons, so here you go:

1) DV tape is cheap. Don't safe money there

2) DVD's and harddisks are much less reliable than a good stored tape. Keep backups of your hard shot footage!

3) Writing multiple times to a DV can seriously corrupt your footage if signal bleeding happens. Yes, people have had this

What you want to do is very easy and has nothing to do with
Premiere unless you already started editing. What you do is
indeed simply burn the captured AVI files directly to a DATA DVD
(DVD-ROM ISO in Nero). Nothing more, nothing less.

If you have Premiere projects you can copy those on the disc(s)
as well. When you continue editing it will ask where all the
footage is, but that's normal.

I can get a 120 GB harddisk (IDE) cheapest at around $75
or something. So I'm not sure why you are wanting to re-use
DV tapes (which are quite cheap) and go through all this
hassle when even a harddisk isn't that expensive anymore.

But, if you still want to do it like that you can...

Ripping
 

But is there a program that could rip this format into raw video, or something like that. Is there another format that premiere would recognize that would keep a good quality.

Anyone know any ripping programs for a raw format the premiere can read?

I knew some of the people who've used digital longer than me would have better answers....... my husband (a.k.a. my own personal techsupport) says the same thing about how inexpensive hard drives are now, and storage isn't a problem.
I have been in video production since 1985, and I have the 2000+ SVHS tapes in storage to show for it.
Tape is cheap compared to the pain and woe of re-using a damaged or worn out tape to master to or record on......hence my tape collection.
Oh well, some women collect shoes, some collect men, I collect music and video.........

Hi Jason,

Premiere Pro can import and export Quick time files which FCP can read. I also have a feeling that it can directly capture to QT, although not entirely sure.

If FCP can import standard AVI files then there should be no big problem.

Cheers,

Thanks Pete. All your suggestions shall be noted, and translated by a friend who is far more technical than me in these aspects of computing.

VHS-C capture to Premiere 6.0.1?
 

Hi all,
Decided to stop banging my head against a wall and just ask those in the know <G>. I'm trying to capture some VHS-C footage my son took on his youth group trip using Premiere 6.0.1 and would like to know the best settings to use.

The camera is a Panasonic PVL453 VHS-C and I'm using the AV output cable (composite video) into an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro card with the nice little breakout box. I'm using the NTSC 720x480 Video for Windows preset (just picked one that looked right) and tried both the Cinepack Codec by Radius and the Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 settings for compression but my resulting clips show up as 320x480 instead of 720x480.

The camera specs simply state it's resolution as "EIS Standard (525 Lines, 60 fields) NTSC Color Signal"; am I just using the wrong setting? Another weird thing is that from the capture window I can see the video but hear no sound, but when I hit 'record' the video freezes but the sound appears. When I play back the clip I find it did actually record both sound and video, but it's squished narrow at 320x480. It stretches out again if I drag it to the timeline and play it, but it's kinda fuzzy looking (might just be a monitor window thing, like DV doesn't look great but renders fine).

My computer is a Win2K Pro PIII 800MHz, 256 RAM, dual drive (5400 primary, 7200 record drive), with the ATI All-in-Wonder Pro graphics/capture card. Any help with settings would be appreciated. I know I could record to my Sony DCR-TRV520 and firewire it in there, but I'd still like to learn how to direct capture it (unless the first method would yield better quality?).

Thanks,
Jeff K.

You need to capture in the native form that comes from the ATI
card. 99% chance that it is MJPEG. It's been a real real long time
since I did any analog capture in Premiere but you must make
sure you do not have it set to DV.

Try it with MJPEG and if that doesn't work try to post as many
capture settings as you can. Hopefully that will spark my mind
a bit as to what was needed to get this running.

Also, with analog capture you usually have to setup the Analog
board as well. So there should be a control somewhere in Premiere
or in its capture tool to go the capture board preference screen.

Make sure those settings are correct as well.

A.E. 6 & P. Pro with dual monitors
 

Hey,
I just got dual monitors, and I was wondering if after effects can be used with dual monitors, I have windows, and I cant seem to drag the windows onto the second screen.

You need to make sure your program is not maximized. Then drag a corner and stretch it over both screens.

premier pro
 

When I capture the file is distorted, yet is pefect in media player, or pinnacle edition, if I export a avi from editiion it apears with same distortion, any clues

ma 100-premier pro adbe
 

can aneone help me iam recording (with xl1s )on st1,2 with ma 100 left and rigth chanel using two miks which i can hear on the head phones and later on yhe tape two however when i downlode to premier i cannot separate them or change the level ?what i wont is to have ability to separate my shot gun audiotech from lavalier on the groom...help

Paul,

Please provide us with more information. Its hard to tale what the distortion is with out a clear description, and technical specification.

Please tell us:

Your computer spec
Are you using any hardware assistants
What settings are you using
What the distortion looks like. If possible a short clip would help.

Are you using Premiere or Edition?

Thanks,