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Rob Lohman August 17th, 2004 01:22 PM

It's been a while but what you normally do is select PAL and then
after that change the interlaced setting to "none" or "progressive"

Ed Smith August 18th, 2004 03:25 AM

Hi Jeremy,

YES Premiere Pro can edit your footage.

When you start a new project, if you select the custom settings tab, make sure the settings are:
From the top, general tab:

DV PLayback
25 FPS
720x576 (greyed out)
D1/DV PAL (1.067)
Progressive scan (No fields)
25fps timecode

If you then click on save preset, give the preset a name, say: DVX100 Progressive capture (PAL)

Give the project a name and click OK.

Your project is now setup for progressive scan, which I think you need.

Cheers,

Jeremy Bond August 18th, 2004 03:40 AM

Ed and Rob, thanks. I will do this. Is that what you edit on Ed? Why is it though that there is an automatic way to do this for NTSC (24p)- but yet you can set it manually? Isn't that odd?

Jeremy Bond August 18th, 2004 03:44 AM

Thanks everyone. I bought a lead and - I firewired from computer back into the camera (export to tape) and then staight out from my S video and audio phonos onboard to the scart on my TV. Images look great! Thanks for you help. These forums are a godsend! Imagine us all before this....tearing our hair out for days on end in isolation (well I know I would be)!

Pat Engh August 18th, 2004 08:53 AM

A bought the Matrox Extreem, but then later found out that in wasn't compatible with my machine, as for now I'm just using my sound cards Firewire for capturing...

Kin Kwan August 18th, 2004 11:02 AM

Not so odd...
 
There's really only ONE option that you have to change if you want to edit 25p. (fields > no fields) It makes sense for Adobe to make a preset for 24fps since it's a different frame rate than NTSC or PAL. It'd be a hassle for them to make a whole new preset for progressive PAL and progressive NTSC, instead they made it an option that you can change.

-KiN

Vamshidhar Kuchikulla August 18th, 2004 01:52 PM

Important Question
 
I am using Adobe Premiere Pro. When editing the audio levels of captured clips and .mp3(songs) pitch level is different when recorded onto vhs. Can anybody tell me how to get the same level pitch of captured clips and audio songs.

suggestions greatly appreciated.

vamshi

Alexey Ravichev August 18th, 2004 03:10 PM

hi Ed,

I tried setting dv control to generic, panasonic, panasonic dvx100a, you name it... nothing works.

I don't see anything in preview window.

I am not sure what exactly you are asking about when talking about settings, I just use ppro1.5 preset for 24p standard (nonwidescreen).

The funny thing is that dv control works as far as rewinding and stopping goes... well I started repeating my first post..

Any suggestions?

Another question is whether I get the same result if I grab by some other program (say windows movie maker) and then open this footage in ppro1.5? Will I get the same result as if grabbing directly from ppro1.5?

Lukah Sighs August 18th, 2004 03:29 PM

laptop editing
 
hi, do you think it's possible to edit on a laptop hp pavillon amd athlon 2500, 512 ram? can i use adobe premiere pro or maybe even avid? or is it too risky?

thanx,
lukah

Jeremy Bond August 18th, 2004 04:38 PM

Good tutorials for Premiere Pro 1.5?
 
Hi. Done some work on Prem 6.0 and now moved to Pro 1.5. Finding it difficult to make the change (dumb, huh!) Is is worth learning Pro 1.5 properly? Is it that much better? If so, is there a good tutorial/website with help (other than the adobe one that really isn't great). Thanks

Kin Kwan August 18th, 2004 05:19 PM

yes.

Rob Lohman August 19th, 2004 01:21 AM

First: I've renamed and moved your thread to better reflect
the content.

I'm not too sure on your question either, but I'll give it a go.
Which version of Premiere Pro are you using? What are the
EXACT audio details of the tracks you are mixing (ie kHz and
sample rate)? I've had problems in the past with Premiere
to mix different rates like 48 kHz for DV with 44.1 kHz for
MP3/DVD. Try converting everything to 48 kHz / 16 bit that
isn't.

Lukah Sighs August 19th, 2004 01:26 AM

...
 
...mmm, does this 'yes ' means too risky or that it's possible?

Rob Lohman August 19th, 2004 01:30 AM

Are you sure Premiere supports the 24p modes from the DVX100a
yet? I was under the impression that it wasn't. As you are saying
it is still 29.97 fps. Why not just capture in that format? That
should work regardless. Then figure out if you can edit it as 24p
or not.

Rob Lohman August 19th, 2004 01:34 AM

That it is possible. Although AVID usually has less "support" for
laptop editing. Ofcourse if you already have the laptop try out
the various demos on the machine before plunking down the
money. I'm running Vegas fine on my laptop for example.

Lukah Sighs August 19th, 2004 03:56 PM

cinema effect
 
alright, i wonder what would be the results of a poll about the cinema effect with premiere pro. what do you guys think is the best way to lose that ugly video image? in premiere pro postproduction of course.

Richard Lewis August 19th, 2004 04:28 PM

Hi Jeremy,
I'm new to Premier Pro too, but I think I’ve got up to speed now.

http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/tut_premierepro.htm

(Forgot how to do the web link thing)

The above site has some free tutorials. But I don’t know if they are exactly what u are looking for.

Total training also do some DVD lessons, obviously at a cost. There’s one for $49.00 I think (don't know how much in proper money). It shows you the basics (got mine free with my Matrox card)

http://www.totaltraining.com/store/2003/tt_products/Premiere_Pro_15.asp?mscsid=

Hope this helps.

Vamshidhar Kuchikulla August 19th, 2004 04:35 PM

hi rob
 
Alright..i am using Adobe premiere pro first released version. I use always 48k...no problem with the sound...What i mean to say is when i capture some clips have low voice... using volume control in stereo mode i can increase to a certain extent. the next clip is my song say .mp3 . The question is when we move from clip to other clip it changes. I want to know how to maintain particular audio level through out the length of the video.

thanx

vamshi

Jeremy Bond August 19th, 2004 05:08 PM

thanks Richard, will check that out! Cheers...

Ed Smith August 20th, 2004 02:38 AM

Hello,

Premiere Pro 1.5 support 24P, it as not suppported in v1.0.

Does Windows Movie maker see the camera? are you able to capture with it? I don't think WMM supports 24P but do you get video in the capture window?

I'm sure there are a few people using a DVX100A with PP, and have it working OK.

Maybe try a re-install?

Cheers,

Rob Lohman August 20th, 2004 03:01 AM

Lukah: there is no easy magic button/setting kind of thing.

It takes a lot more then "just" post-production.

We have an entire forum dedicated to this, click here to go there.
Read the threads and posts in that forum and you should have
an idea of what everyone is doing etc.

Jonathan Stanley August 20th, 2004 10:48 AM

Rob is right, this is a complicated issue. However, here are some things you can do to help. Start by adding pseudo-wide screen bars (use the clip plugin, top and bottom set to 13). Another easy way to play with the color is to use the plugins from Magic Bullet. You can download these for free from Canons website when you register your copy of premiere pro.

Another, less obvious way to improve your productions is to not neglect the audio. Bad audio is the number one mistake with amatuer video.

Hope that helps
Jonathan

Kaleem Maxwell August 20th, 2004 08:44 PM

Pitch?

Do you mean the music or voices sound higher (as in Chipmunk voice) or lower (as in Mr. Big) to each other.

Or do you mean volume, as in one clip is louder than the other?

I'm a bit confused here. Can you explain your problem in a bit more detail? Which clip has the problem when you play it in premiere? The mp3 or the sound you captured?

Lukah Sighs August 21st, 2004 09:34 AM

need help for splitscreen...
 
hi,

must sound as a rather stupid question for you die hard premiere pro users...but anyway, how can i make a splitscreen? on the left and the right side an image, seperated with black. there is no transparancy thing in pro like in 6.5.

thanx!
lukah

Steven Gotz August 21st, 2004 08:46 PM

There are a few ways to do this. One is using a garbage matte. But since you want a black line, I suggest that you use the crop effect on the top track.

Lukah Sighs August 22nd, 2004 05:40 AM

thanks for the info, but when i crop my image i've got only a part of it in the splitscreen. i would like to show 2 times the whole image...

Kin Kwan August 22nd, 2004 12:45 PM

Premiere Pro 1.5 and Export Problems
 
Hi! I'm having problems exporting to DV AVI or AVI with Premiere Pro 1.5.

First Problem, Exporting to DV AVI:

When I export with the Microsoft DV AVI codec with Premiere Pro, the file plays fine with Windows Media Player, but TMPGEnc can't decode the file properly. (I'm only getting audio and no video) Now, if I put that same file into Adobe After Effects and export again with Microsoft DV AVI, TMPGEnc decodes it properly. (But I don't want to do this because 1) it takes more time and 2) that's another generation of compression which degrades quality.)

Second Problem, Exporting to HuffYUV:

When I export to HuffYUV, Windows Media Player and Virtual Dub doesn't decode the file properly. It seems like some frames aren't compressed correctly. I can use Adobe After Effects and export as HuffYUV with no problem, same settings and everything. I use HuffYUV version 2.2.0, I always convert to YUY2 and I have "Always suggest RGB format for output" and "Enable Full Size Output Buffer" selected.

Can anyone help me with my dilemma?

-KiN

Dan Euritt August 22nd, 2004 12:54 PM

what format was the footage in when you first brought it into premiere pro?

if it was from a dv camera, it wouldn't get compressed at all when exporting... except for the transitions, of course.

why are you using the huffy codec? and why use tmpgenc? the mainconcept mpeg encoder in premiere pro is xlnt.

Steven Gotz August 22nd, 2004 12:59 PM

Yes, that's true. But if you want the entire picture twice, side-by-side, it will be twice as wide as it is usually, or, half as tall.

If you want two copies of the same video, put one copy on one track, and another copy on the next higher track.

You can use the scale parameter of the Motion effect to make each one smaller, and the position parameter to make one on the left and one on the right.

Kin Kwan August 22nd, 2004 01:35 PM

Hey Dan, thanks for the quick reply.

Yes, the footage is brought in from a DV camcorder and I did do some color correction on the footage, hence the compression when exporting. The problem I have here is that I can't open the DV AVI file in TMPGEnc when exported from Premiere Pro, but I can open it in TMPGEnc when it's exported from After Effects. (Both compressed with the Microsoft DV codec)

The reason why I'm using TMPGEnc is because I've never exported a final copy of a project directly from Premiere. Premiere has the worst resizing/deinterlacing methods and other post processing filters. TMPGEnc has superior deinterlacing/resizing filters plus I've been using it for awhile and I'm use to encoding MPEG files this way :] *NOTE* I'm a new user to Premiere Pro, but I've used Premiere 5 and 6 for a long time and they were notorious for having bad post processing filters. If this has changed in Premiere Pro, please correct me!

I use the HuffYUV codec because, again, Premiere doesn't have good post processing filters. I use Virtual Dub and AviSynth to deinterlace/resize/denoise/etc my video before I compress it in DivX/Xvid/etc. HuffYUV is the best lossless compression out there (IMHO) and that's why I use it.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

-KiN

James Blacklee August 23rd, 2004 04:28 AM

I think Vamshi means volume rather than pitch... when I first made a DVD i remember watching it back and being horrified at the inconsistency in audio levels - one thing you should watch out for is to keep your PC speakers at the same level when editing, (maybe use a marker, or always have them on full or something) because this can cause you to think certain clips are louder or softer than they should be, especially after you come back to it after watching a film, or playing games or something.

James Blacklee August 23rd, 2004 04:38 AM

Capture problems with Premiere Pro
 
This only used to happen when in my shoot, I would turn the camera off and on again, continue filming, and premiere would have trouble capturing over the 'stop' because of timecode problems. But now, it jsut seems to happen randomly, in the middle of my captured footage, the capture screen stutters, then says 'Error: cannot find timecode'. Why is this??? It's very irritating as it does not capture some little parts of footage that i would want to use. The only possible reason i can think of, is that maybe i need to leave a little recording time before and after filming a certain scene, does Premiere need some kind of 'run up' when capturing? Thanks guys

Kaleem Maxwell August 23rd, 2004 06:52 AM

Oh in this case then, make sure you use the audio mixer's UV meters as a guide. I'm not sure how much the UV Meters in Premiere Pro has improved, but, more or less, your sound tracks should peak between -12 and -6.

I would only use speakers as a no-confidence guide and make sure you have the volume in the middle setting.

Kaleem Maxwell August 23rd, 2004 08:36 AM

I hear you can trade in your RT2500 for a better capture card (RT. 100X or something) that has Premiere Pro.

I too am using Premiere 6.5 with a Pinnacle DV500 card, very smooth on Windows XP, initally used it in Windows ME which was a bugger.

Ed Smith August 23rd, 2004 11:51 AM

Hi James,

If you are capturing between in and out points and you are capturing from the beginning of the tape then you will need about 7seconds pre-roll (run up as you say).

However if you are doing a crash capture (no in-points/ out points) then you should not need any preroll, and you should be able to start capture just after 00:00:00:00. Do you get the same message if you do this?

It is good practice that when filming you should have 10 seconds preroll (you normally get an indication of this when recording) and then a little out-roll once the shot has finished.

On the tape does the timecode jump, are there any brakes in timecode?

What camera are you using?

Please specify your settings, and system specification.

Thanks,

James Blacklee August 23rd, 2004 12:11 PM

Thanks Ed,

By in/out points in the recording, are you referring to when I stop and start recording, i.e. a change in shot? I have many of those, there's not much continuous footage. As for the batch capture, yes this problem occurs when I start a capture from the beginning and leave it to itself. As for the breaks in timecode, there shouldn't be, as I went out for the day, and recorded straight on a new tape, (I did however change battery once) and I didn't playback or mess around with it.

James

PS The camera I was using on the day was a Sony TRV-33e, so it doesn't give you that little 10second pre-roll indicator (although you can see it at the top-right constantly)

Ed Smith August 23rd, 2004 12:23 PM

Hi James,

By in and out points I was refering to when capturing the footage in premiere, i.e. marking an in and out point.

Continuous timecode is when there is no timecode brake/ jump when recording. i.e. if its a 60 minute tape the timecode goes from 00:00:00:00 to 01:00:00:00.

I see now that you are using a batch capture list in Premiere. Was there any interuptions when you were capturing from tape? i.e. have you any virus protection running in the background/ any other services that might cause interuptions?

Again please specify your system specs and setting (where possible)

Thanks,

Barry Rivadue August 23rd, 2004 06:12 PM

Here's the dum-dum question of the year: if it was produced on a Mac etc., is this tutorial suitable for the PC edition of Photoshop CS?

Ken Tanaka August 23rd, 2004 07:20 PM

Photoshop is functionally identical across platforms. So the answer is yup.

Barry Rivadue August 23rd, 2004 07:30 PM

Thank you, Mr. Tanaka!


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