you have 25fps PAL ..
you want to end up 25fps PAL ?
to get rid of interlace why not render out as 25fps PAL and render it as PROGRESSIVE ? ( make sure you change deinterlace method to blend)

IMO taking 25fps ..changing it to 30fps and then back down to 25fps = interlace mess

Yeah -- for the most part, unless you're looking at the window bar, you wouldn't be able to tell which version you're in.

Is it possible to output from my video camera into a laptop with Vegas 6 via firewire in order to look at the incoming video on the video scopes in the software so that I can get all my levels correct? I looked on the laptop and it has a 4-pin firewire port.

You can input from the camera in the vidcap app, but as far as I know there's no way to do so within Vegas itself and thus use the video scopes while shooting.

That said, I don't do HDV, so I'm not sure how the internal HDV capture works. I'll leave it up to someone else to comment on that.

You cannot view live scopes in Vegas during capture.
This is where a tool like DVRack HD come in very handy. It allows live scopes during capture.
It's not an issue of whether you have 4 or 6 pin ports, it's a matter of whether you have an application that allows for live input. Vegas allows for live input, but the scopes cannot be active. the scopes in Vegas are a post-only tool.

Oh I see.. So what would one use the live input for? Just audio recording?

Spot--

Please do expand on this live input idea if you're talking about camera input directly into Vegas and not into the quasi-separate vidcap application. I can think of a few situations in which that would be pretty handy, but I'm not so sure the capability is there. I'd love to be proven wrong though. :)

(I'm not spot...)

To bring video into Vegas "live"... is just like a DV or HDV capture without machine control, be sure to turn off machine control in the capture prefs.

DV - the external capture app, HDV - the internal, just as always.

I'd guess that this isn't really what SF/Sony had in mind, but it works because firewire is firewire, and without machine control on, V doesn't know the difference between a live stream and a stream from tape.

All things considered, it IS a hard-drive recorder... but offers no features for live cap other than the basic capture.

Yes, Vegas will also do stereo or multitrack audio recording live - this IS an app V. was designed for, as it started out life as an audio editor. Recordings take place inside the main Vegas interface, in audio tracks on the timeline.

Basically, any internal or external sound card/interface that works in Windows will work in Vegas, you go into prefs (in Vegas, not Capture) to select the audio device(s) for recording & playback. This works very well.

There are a few flavors of audio drivers that have their pros & cons, and several professional cards/interfaces allow access with more than one kind of driver... (going off topic...)

Seth answered it pretty much as I would.
We used Vegas as a live video capture app for a couple years until Serious Magic came along with DVRack, and later DVRackHD.

As far as live audio...heck, I've recorded 26 tracks live with Vegas on more than one occasion, and regularly capture 8-16 tracks of input live.

I'm editing a project using WMV fies encoded by Windows Media Encoder (Don't worry, the destination's Youtube so quality doesn't matter). In Vegas 6 I was able to edit and render out all of the WMV files without a problem but in Vegas 7, All non-AV (only a stream of video with no audio stream) files have a 24P-30P like jitter and all AV files (video and audio stream together) don't. This is very weird...

I hope there's a fix to this soon in 7.0c.

Jack, I'm not in a position at this moment to do even any quick testing, but if memory serves, WMV Video Only clips will sometimes have issues on playback in WMPlayer.

The fact that you've been successful in Vegas6 doing vid-only may be a fluke of Vegas 6. I'm not defending V7 or anything...

But... best practice for WM is to include at least a low-bitrate silent audio track with your video-only clips.

Hello

I downloaded Vegas 7.b and when I try to instal in Athlon 2.0 / 1GB RAM system the instalation always stops with
"Extracting Files: mediamgr\msde\Setup\SqlRun.cab" file
and apears the following message:
Error: CRC mismatch – aborting the installation

Note that I have instaled Vegs 4 and 5 with no problem.

Any idea what`s going on?

Thank you
Ron

You have a bad download. Download it again.

Thank you Edward
I should tell you that there was a Vegas 7.a download one day before and this Athlon system rejected the file the same way it rejected today, but unexpectedly a second computer (with a Pentium system) had no problem to install the Vegas 7.a file. Go figure...

Ron

Ok, this may be in the wrong section but sure yall can answer this. Most video that I have shot has been done in 4:3 and I preview it on 4:3. However with such new plasmas,dlp,lcd, etc all being 16:9 I have a question.

I have a shoot coming up and it will be shot in 16:9. I have never shot in 16:9 as it was never needed. Now that I am doing that do I need to get a small 16:9 screen to preview it? I know that I can use the safe area in vegas but that is not full proof.

If I do need a 16:9 can I still do my previews for the 4:3 on it? Also who has some small cheap 16:9 tv's.

Jason

I'll try to do that and all of my videos are CBR so I know the bitrate of for all of my .wmv files.

Hi
I just instaled Vegas 7.0b and hasn`t found the option in the template and to render to HDV 720 24p that I intend to use with my JVC HD 100a.
Should I do this template and render option myself and it`s going to work?
Thanks
Ron

You can still preview out. If it's raw footage which isn't recompressed (as in, no effects on it), it'll look stretched vertically in the preview -- but if it's recompressed, it'll appear as 16:9 letterboxed.

Yeah -- for the most part, unless you're looking at the window bar, you wouldn't be able to tell which version you're in.

That's exactly it... if there were any more features I sure haven't touched or found a need for them, and v6 takes twice as long to load up and has the computer "chattering" a few minutes after I close it.

v5 is just less power hungry.

Disable the Media Manager, and those problems go away.

Then, you can take advantage of things like project nesting.

Ron, just select the HDV 25p option and change the frame rate to 23.976 and then save/rename it as your own. It would definitely work fine.

Ok, I just tried re-encoding my files with a audio stream: Didn't work...

Tried transcoding in VLC: first 6-10 seconds is always skipped out!!!

Edit: Actually, I'm having a symptom that Sony was trying to prevent in 7.0b.

"Fixed a problem that could cause a frame stutter when reading some Windows Media Video files"... NOT.

I've downgraded to Vegas 7.0a and the video's no longer stuttering, BUT, when I render a composited scene in .wmv, full streams were sometimes fully ignored!

I've re-upgraded to 7.0b and am still waiting for a solution to this bug that makes video only .wmv files play like a really bad 24p to 30p conversion in both preview and rendering.

Hi. I have what seems to be a simple, but pressing matter at hand. There's a 223 MB .avi file (exactly one minute long, includes audio) and I'm trying to Render it on Vegas 6 as an mpg so that it weighs no more than 6 MB.

I have to submit the file and the company I'm sending it to specifically state that the file must be no larger than 6 MB.

In the "Render As..." dialogue box, I selected "Custom..." and under the Video tab, tried decreasing frame size and the video quality. But no matter which frame size or video quality I choose, the outcome is ALWAYS a 14.3 MB file.

1. How can I get that file down to under 6 MB?
2. How is it that varying frame size and/or video quality, has no affect on file size?

Thanks!!!

You must decrease the bitrate to make the file size smaller.

Thanks! i got it.

David
Thank you for your response. That was what I had though.
Best
Ron

New to video editing, I'm using a two camera setup and am shooting local bands. Both cameras are HDV Sony HDR-FX1 camera's and I'm trying to edit video in Vegas 7 but am having a very hard time switching back and forth between the videos both on the time line.

Does anybody know of a very good, relatively inexpensive tutorial for getting up and running with Vegas 7?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Jon

It sounds like you need a multi-camera editing plug-in. If you only have two cameras you can use the free DoubleTake (http://vasst.com/product.aspx?id=2dcc4ca5-1aae-4c53-8a2c-b54213315da5) script from VASST. If you need more cameras there is also VASST infinitiCAM, VASST Ultimate S, and Excalibur from Edward Troxel. Using any of these scripts will make quick work of a multi-camera edit. Here is a tutorial for using Doubletake (http://www.vasst.com/?v=content/product/doubletake_tutorialnew.html).

~jr

Wait a sec, I just checked another wmv file with Video and Audio and it stuttered too! Is it something to do with the encoder?

Terribly sorry for the triple post...

Jack, there really isn't enough info here... somehow you need to narrow in on where the problem is.

Output some DV-AVIs from Vegas and take them through the freeware Windows Media Encoder from Microsoft. Use identical settings on the same AVI for WM output from Vegas and see what you get. Try it from 6, 7...

Are these playback issues showing up on just your encoding machine? Have you tried the files on other PCs? Do you restart your encoding machine, or just go to standby or hibernate?

Sorry I can't be of more direct help.

Easy question I think but I don't know it. When you watch cops or whatever and they are blurring there face where is that in vegas cause I don't see it. I have to use a black circle or something. Also it seems as if that blur they use stays right on there face no matter what.

Is that like a tracking thing that you can use and it does that or do you just have to go frame by frame and do it?

Thanks, Jason

Check Edward Troxels newsletter, vol 1 #12-it walks you thru the process.

Don

Don sorry for the newb question but where do I find this article.

Jason

Here you go, Jason. All the newsletters, chock full of great Vegas info, all thanks to Ed... http://thetroxels.com/vegas/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=eaef930bd32a140082909021013b5c33

Just finished my short and now onto post. I have lined up my software method Connect HD > DVFilmaker > Vegas > (maybe some plugin for color from Vasst) and now onto the hardware. My main project being editing in Vegas I wanted "Vegas Specific" people to give me their advice on Hardware. First plan is to get a mass amount of storage and see if my current machine... can hande the HDV. So...

1. How much faster (percent) is a Raid 0 setup than a single Firewire drive? Is it negletable? Is it worth the cost to performance? If so, can someone point me to a link on basic Raid 0 setup?

if my machine is not fast enough... I may have to put together a new machine... keep reading if you like... and help if you can... keeping in mind final goal is Vegas 7 >

Motherboard >
Although VideoGuys suggest this board >> ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe >> I have read many reviews (and the ASUS site even says it on a note below the board) that if you happen to get a board with the older BIOS... it will not recognize a Core 2 Duo chip and you have to update the BIOS using a P4 chip and... and... and... what a hassle/pain!! (where the heck to they expect paying customers to "borrow" a chip for BIOS update... let alone the amount of wasted time!) so... thinking of...
ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP

Processor >
Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13

Video Card >
Another bit of confusion... many people... include Videoguys... suggest this card >>> PNY Quadro FX "series" <<<< for video editing.... but 1.) does the cost to performace justify this card? for half the price... can get a Nvidia card with double the memory onboard... AND... I am getting the idea that Vegas 7 wouldnt even take advantage of the Quadro, (VideoGuys, http://www.videoguys.com/DIY-GPU.html "As of the latest release - version 7 which just started shipping, Sony Vegas does not utilize GPU performance in any way. So there is no reason to spend more than $300 on a graphics card unless you need it for other applications or plug-ins.) If it does... give a decent cost to performance ratio... say +%10 or so... the extra hundred bucks would be worth it. Note, I do not plan on using After Effects but Do plan on using Connect HD.

1. How much faster (percent) is a Raid 0 setup than a single Firewire drive? Is it negletable? Is it worth the cost to performance? If so, can someone point me to a link on basic Raid 0 setup?


I'm bad at percentages, so... RAID 0 (with 2 drives and the "correct" stripe size for the files being read/written) will be roughly twice as fast as a single drive.

Here're some RAID explanations:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=1491&p=2

hard disk performance depends on which drives you compare.

hard drive performance depends on rpm and cache size. in some threads in dvinfo. it is declared that 7200 rpm drive is sufficient for Vegas. and most of the firewire drives are 7200 rpm.

but RAID 0 will almost double the hard drive speed without compromising the storage capacity. i would choose that if I were you. it will also speed up overall computer performance.

and about video card. I am not sure if Vegas can utilize the GPU (graphics processing unit) on the video card but as it is also told in many threads the main requirement for vegas is cpu power. and that I agree. i can render the vasst render test in 38 secs with a Pentium D 950 (3.4 Ghz) and when I overclock it the time goes down to 30 secs. so go for a pentium core duo setup. I suggest you to buy ABIT AW9D. I use AW8-MAx the previous generation for pentium D's and I am quite happy with it.

So I have some HD footage of a sunrise and sunset, and I was wondering if I could make a time lapse out of it in Vegas 7. How would I go about doing this? Just speed up the video by 2000%?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Steven

You can experiment with the "Velocity Envelope".

Just do a search in the Help files in Vegas for "Velocity" and you will find instructions on this subject.

Add a velocity envelope for up to 3x faster

Hold down the CTRL key and resize it smaller for up to 4x faster (or change the playback rate in the properties)

Do both of the above for up to 12x faster

Now render that out and repeat (2nd time 144x faster, 3rd time 1728x faster) OR you could use nested VEG files and add either or both to that.

OR you could use nested VEG files and add either or both to that.

That is what I was thinking. Thanks.

BTW: What do you guys think I should set the speed to? (of the sunset/sunrise)

SB

I recommend that you experiment to get the results you desire.

It is so easy to do.

I do not have a specific recommendation, sorry.

I'm working on a Vegas 6 project that will be comprised of five separate blocks (not sure what the correct term is). Each will be 3 to 5 minutes long. Some blocks will be still photo slide shows, some will be video with overlays, etc. I will be working on each on separately and then combining them all to form a single video. One of the video blocks will be comprised of 25 5-7 second video clips.

I'm wondering if it's better to create each block and render to a new avi file and combine the new avi files at the end - or should I do everything in a single project and Render to New Track (seems like this would pretty much be the same thing as the first option?). Or maybe there's another option.

What's the best way to do this without losing any quality along the way?

Thanks in advance!

You could do this a variety of ways. For example, you could do each section separately, render each section to a separate file (like DV-AVI or Sony YUV...) and then create a "final" project adding each piece to the timeline.

Or you could cut out the intermediary step and create a "final" project adding all the other VEG files to the timeline!

Ok. I have some footage that I recorded a few months ago, and I have some footage that I recently recorded. Ive noticed that the newer footage looks different than the original - the original footage looks more like film and the newer footage looks more like regular DV. Now, when I right click the original footage clips - the pulldown removal says 2 3 3 2 ...when I right click the newer clips, the pulldown says 2 3 -- is that why it looks different? If so, can it be corrected by resampling the footage into my computer, or was it simply recorded differently (eg 24P vs. 24P Advanced?)?

Im using a Panasonic DVX100B and Vegas 6...

Thanks in advance!

I forgot to mention that I filmed both in 24p, thanks...

Thanks so much John! That's much appreciated. I have interest in your tutorial package for Vegas, but disapointed there's nothing yet on Vegas 7. Any plans to introduce a Vegas 7 tutorial?

Jon

Did you change the pulldown setting on the camera?

Vegas does pulldown removal automatically if the have the pulldown removal box checked in the global preferences. So if it's removing 2-3 on a clip, it's because it was shot that way. If it's removing 2-3-3-2, it was shot in 2-3-3-2.

The thing is, either pulldown scheme should look more or less the same... pulldown doesn't really affect the look, they're just two different ways of putting 24p video into a 60i stream.

Are you sure you shot the footage that doesn't look right in 24p, or might you have been shooting 60i or 30p by mistake?

Hi guys.

I have been using a borrowed comp with Vegas 4.0. I have encountered a small problem that is now driving me crazy! When I render a project to AVI it stops the render at exactly 18.48 minutes and an error comes up. The error says that the file is either write protected or I have insuffiicient space. I have lots of space and no idea why this is happening! Help?

Sounds like the drive you're rendering to is formatted as FAT32 and not NTFS.