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Guy Bruner
December 23rd, 2006, 12:12 PM
You can create your own. Just modify the HDV 1080-50i template to 1080-25p. Change the field order to progressive and the interlace options to none. Don't forget to rename it HDV 1080-25p.

Theodore McNeil
December 23rd, 2006, 12:14 PM
I'd wait. AVCHD is still new enough that the no major non-linear editor program (pc or mac) has an editing solution for the codec.

Besides the codec issue, I'm waiting because the new Leopard Operating System comes out next year.

Brian Luce
December 23rd, 2006, 12:18 PM
They should be locked together unless you unlocked them Or are using a seperate audio piece.

HTHs
Don

okay so how do i lock them up again?

Don Bloom
December 23rd, 2006, 02:59 PM
Highlite both the video and audio clips and press G-that will group the clips together.

Don

Edward Troxel
December 23rd, 2006, 04:03 PM
1) Ripple editing is what you're looking for
2) Check to make sure that "Ignore Event Grouping" is NOT turned on. The two components (audio and video) of a single clip are locked together by default.

Seth Bloombaum
December 23rd, 2006, 04:13 PM
Stuart, there is technical terminology to describe this situation, to be deployed the next time you're tempted to give yourself a dope-slap in the forehead when there may be a client within earshot.

"I discovered an air-gap!"

Happy Holidays!

Seth Bloombaum
December 23rd, 2006, 04:17 PM
You'll probably get equivalent playback quality at 5Mbps for a 640x360... or even 3Mbps. Worth testing, your mileage will vary.

Mike Begalla
December 23rd, 2006, 11:06 PM
Is there a way to make a non menu based project continuously play? I am doing a slide show, and I want it to restart once it is finished.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 23rd, 2006, 11:18 PM
Point the end action back to the file currently playing.

Mike Begalla
December 23rd, 2006, 11:40 PM
Thanks, I knew it had to be something simple...just couldn't find it.

Donald Blake
December 24th, 2006, 02:10 AM
Hey guys!

I'm starting to work with Vegas 7, i'm just starting! and learning by myself. i was wondering how Vegas 7 works with audio...

I filmed an interview with my HDR-FX1 and a shotgun mic on top, it comes out ok but there's still that background hissing sound that makes it amateur-like, is there a "track FX" i could add that would fix this problem?

Thanks in advance!!

DB

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 24th, 2006, 02:16 AM
You can add noise reduction to a track, but that's not included with Vegas.
Depending on the frequency, you may be able to zoom in on the particular freq or harmonics of the freq, and zap it. Or, download the demo for Noise Reduction, check out the Sound Soap Pro, or Clean. All are great noise redux tools.

Jamie Hellmich
December 24th, 2006, 06:19 AM
Donald,

As Douglas touched on, Vegas has a GREAT tool for this.

In the Tracklist panel, push the track FX button on the audio track you want to work on.

The Audio Plug-In window opens, select the Track EQ button. You have 4 frequency select nodes in view, the active one is red (based on the tab you can select at the bottom). For this scenario, we'll just use one of them.

You can drag the node left/right to a lower or higher frequency (20Hz to 20 KHz) and down/up to boost or cut the selected frequency 15 dB. You can also use the Frequency and Gain/Boost sliders respectively as well.

While playing the clip, boost or cut the perhaps #2 node (it doesn't matter which really, but a good range to start for a hiss) and move it left and right while listening and find where the hiss most is affected by the boost or cut. I myself boost when identifying an audio frequency.

Once you have found the frequency of the hiss or undesired frequency, you can cut it to the desired level. You can also use the Bandwidth slider to broaden or narrow the affected frequency range to really focus in (narrow bandwidth) on a frequency to avoid affecting others.

Bear in mind, this method affects all audio on the track, so keep the cut and bandwidth to a minimum. There may be a way to assign this EQ Plug-In to a particular clip or clips on the timeline, but I haven't looked into it. There is a plug-in with up to a 20 band equilizer, but I haven't used that yet.

This ability saved my butt filming a friend's daughter's wedding, when the facility's people forgot to shut off a an air conditioner next to the outdoor wedding. I was able to EQ it out without affecting the rest of the audio too much. Phew!....the raw audio was pretty much unusable and would have been a HUGE dissapointment to all.

This is a great tool for audio, and with the Gate and Compressor functions as well, I can't see much need for any other audio software or plug-ins for my needs. Vegas really covers audio for video well in my opinion.

Good luck,

Jamie

Ron Chau
December 24th, 2006, 10:03 AM
Anyone running the free MB plugin with Vegas 7 ?

Whenever I try to apply the effect, Vegas crashes. This happens in Vegas 7 and 7c. Tried an uninstall/reinstall, same thing.

Everything else works fine.

Donald Blake
December 24th, 2006, 10:56 AM
Thanks you guys! i'm new here and new to the video production world as well, i've never taken any class or anything so it gets a little confusing without that base that you learn in class, but you guys are answering exactly every question i have and for free!!! wich is pretty rare these days! thanks again...

DB

Jamie Hellmich
December 24th, 2006, 03:19 PM
No problem Donald,

Learning to fly this thing by the seat of my pants too.

Were you able to EQ out the hiss?

Jamie

Will Hanlon
December 24th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Is 4 the highest the playback rate can go? That seems pretty low. The reason I ask is I'm speeding up footage of clouds so 4 doesn't quite cut it, and in Premiere, I was able to speed it up as much as I wanted. I already shot it at the lowest framerate I could so... are there any plugins for this in Vegas or is that really the best it can do?

Thanks.

Will Hanlon
December 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM
I use the MB plugin, and I've never gotten an error with it. I have the free one and the one you have to purchase installed.

John Huling
December 24th, 2006, 05:20 PM
I "captured" video from the A1 Canon (shot in HD 60i to Vegas 7. Put together a 22 minute video program. Rendered it to 1440 X 1080 in Vegas mpeg2 (maybe that's the problem). The Rendering took 3 1/2 hours on a Sony Vaio Laptop with a 1.8 centrino to a 7200 rpm ext disk drive. Then DVD architect wanted to render it also. The first part of the video plays fine then a couple minutes in the images start jumping and pixellating severly. The sound played at the beginning then stopped also (probably a different issue). What did I do wrong? I am sure it's something I did not do correctly.

John Huling
December 24th, 2006, 05:29 PM
The entire project took almost 6 hours.

Jamie Hellmich
December 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM
Will,

I usually adjust the clip speed (fast or slow) to the max (400%) render it to the original clip format, re-insert it on the timeline, adjust again, and repeat as necessary to get the fast or slow speed I want.

Jamie

Jamie Hellmich
December 24th, 2006, 05:58 PM
John,

Your rendered file is not DVD format, that is why DVD architect wanted to render it. Though I'm not sure why it didn't render it down properly, if that is why it did not play correctly.

Render it to a DVD Architect NTSC or NTSC Widescreen preset, including the audio stream if desired though the "custom" button and audio tab, "include audio" check box.

If you still have a problem, it lay somewhere else.

Your render times sound commensurate for the pc, but you did require 2 renders instead of 1. Render it one time to DVD format, 720 X 480 in preferred screen format, framerate and progressive/interlaced preference. Or as I said before, one of the DVD Architect presets with audio.

Jamie

John Huling
December 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Thanks Jamie
I will try again tommorrow. Perhaps I was just tired and trying to get too much done.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I know it can take time to reply, so I really appreciate it. Merry X mas and Happy New year!

Evan Dowling
December 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the info guys! Merry Christmas!

Edward Troxel
December 24th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Using the playback rate (or CTRL-Resize) you can get up to 4x. Using the Velocity envelope, you can get up to 3x. Combine the two and you can get up to 12x. Beyond that, render and do the above again.

Robb Swiatek
December 24th, 2006, 08:54 PM
I'm running Vegas 5 and output my finished project to Architect in mpeg 2 form using the Arch templates. But the overall quality and clarity when viewed on a TV isn't as good as when I connect and preview the footage directly off the camera. What am I doing wrong?

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 24th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Hi Rob,
You might need to provide more info for a more concise answer.
Camera direct to TV is straight DV, but DVD is a much more highly compressed MPEG. If you're using a low bitrate, that will compromise your picture quality.
Length/bitrate and processing of image all play a role in image quality.
Can you post specifics on what parts of the image you're unsatisfied with? What bitrate you've encoded to? Length of project?

Miguel Lopez
December 24th, 2006, 10:40 PM
Hi i am trying to import a quicktime sheer codec video, that has been captured in a Mac, into Vegas video 7.0c. But vegas crashes. I can play the file in quicktime without problems. But whenever i try to import it to Vegas it crashes. I tried two PCs. Same result. The QT sheer codec that i used was YCrBr 4.2.2 8 bit.
Is there any way to import sheer codec qt files into vegas?
Thanks!

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 24th, 2006, 10:48 PM
Hmm...wanna send me a couple seconds of your vid? I've got Sheer 2.4 on my laptop, and just rendered to, and imported from, the Sheer codec, captured on my Macbook. I'd be happy to see if it's just your system, or at least see if that file imports.

Will Hanlon
December 24th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. As far as rendering a clip out, any suggestion on what format I should use for Raylight AVI 720p 23.976? I was looking at the Windows AVI, but... actually, I just found my answer. I can use Windows AVI then just have the video uncompressed or use an HD codec. Anyway, thanks.

Jamie Hellmich
December 25th, 2006, 05:05 AM
Thanks Edward,

I had not been aware of velocity envelopes... missed that one in the manual. Sure is a lot of depth to this program. And I appreciate folks like you helping out "hobbyists" as myself.

Merry Christmas,

Jamie

Miguel Lopez
December 25th, 2006, 06:16 AM
Here you go. It is only two frames.

www.macgregor.autoecstasy.com/SupermanSheer3.mov

Robb Swiatek
December 25th, 2006, 06:56 AM
Well I was just experimenting with settings and such on a segment of a whole finished film. The segment is about 2 minutes in length but I hadn't changed the bitrate at all from whatever the default settings are (when using the Architect NTSC Widescreen vid stream). And yes all the clips are formatted to widescreen so it's not a question of the picture being stretched.

Basically, when on DVD, it just looks like a crappy internet quality video.

Any suggestions for baseline settings to start off with (for both the 2 min and approx 45 min videos)?

Donald Blake
December 25th, 2006, 11:43 AM
Jamie! you hit the spot!

It was the fourth node i had to work, i brought down the "Gain" and "Roloff" to nothing and had to bring the frequency down a little bit, but i have to work it a little more, i'm very close tho! I'll practice and try to understand this effect because i can't really buy any plug-ins right now sorry Douglas.

thanks again for the info Jamie!

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 25th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Crashes on me, too. The stack dump suggests it's quicktime. I can't open the file you emailed in Quicktime either.

Miguel Lopez
December 25th, 2006, 05:53 PM
You need to download the sheer codec. Try it at bitjazz.com. itīs free.

Brian Luce
December 25th, 2006, 07:58 PM
I'm trying to do v/o straight into vegas 6 with the stock mic supplied with the jvc hd100 and a XLR to mini jack adaptor. Can't seem to get a signal. I checked the setting in control panel, none of the mute buttons seem to be "On". Any suggestions?

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 25th, 2006, 08:08 PM
As mentioned in my post encouraging you to post a second or two...I already have the SheerVideo codec, been using it for years. It's now at version 2.4, and probably 2.5 by NAB.
The particular bit you posted crashes my system as well, although files rendered to Sheervideo do not. The file you posted hangs my QuicktimePro as well.

Evan Dowling
December 25th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Vegas 7 - I want to split a clip and then apply some FX to only one of the split tracks, however, vegas applies the fx to all clips that were originally together. How can I stop this and only apply fx to the clip I want?

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 25th, 2006, 09:43 PM
Apply the FX to the clip/event after the split, and apply only to the event, not the track, not in the Project Media bin/pool. Remember that in Vegas, you can apply at Event, Track, or Project, with additional options to apply in the Project Media/Media Pool. If you want the media only on a specific event, apply only to that event. If you drag that event to the left to incorporate pre-split frames, you'll see the FX applied to the stretched/added frames as well.

Fred Goltz
December 25th, 2006, 10:06 PM
Hey everyone,

I know it's Christmas, but what the ....heck?

I am putting a small six minute sketch together, it's got about 65 to 70 clips in the whole thing...problem is, at the end of each individual clip, just before it goes to the next shot, it seems to freeze for a milisecond.

Now, when I render it, it doesn't happen as much, but what could be the problem here? Should I change something in my video prefs..or is the problem manifested somewhere earlier...like maybe the capture settings?

Anyone else ever get this problem? Thanks, and happy new year.

Steven Bills
December 25th, 2006, 11:23 PM
Does anybody know where, or how, I could make a normal line of audio sound like it was spoken through a cell phone? Is there a filter in Vegas that can do this? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

SB

Douglas Spotted Eagle
December 26th, 2006, 02:39 AM
The EQ is exactly for this. There is a preset for telephone voices, but you can make your own by removing all mids and highs with an inserted EQ. Adding a tad of high level compression will help with the illusion. If you have Ultimate S2, there are a few options in there as well.

Edward Troxel
December 26th, 2006, 08:08 AM
It should not happen at all after rendering. During preview of the timeline it can happen depending on many factors such as preview level, complexity of the project, etc...

Edward Troxel
December 26th, 2006, 08:13 AM
The "Parametric EQ" effect has a preset called "Phone line effect". It may need to be modified for a cell phone sound.

Fred Goltz
December 26th, 2006, 09:28 AM
Thanks Edward,

I thought it may have just been the lack of power in my computer, but there are probably a few mistakes in the clip itself.

I tried adjusting a few things to make my computer faster, and now I can't render anything at all. It starts to render and before it gets to 3%...Vegas shuts completely down.

Fred Goltz
December 26th, 2006, 10:29 AM
Okay, I think I may know what's wrong. I'm a real newbie, so if this is a cardinal sin, please feel free to point and laugh as much as you want.

When I have a large clip (say a 17 second long Master shot clip), I lay it down and during the conversation of the two people, I'll do cutaways to each one once in a while. All I do for the cutaways, is select the person's close up, choose the video portion only, and simply lay it right over the large 17 second master shot, using it's audio, but hiding the video under the "cutaway" shot I laid over it.

Could this be my problem? If so, do I really have to go back and re-edit all these longer clips, cutting up the sequential audio, etc?

Edward Troxel
December 26th, 2006, 10:44 AM
No, that is not a problem. However, you may see a slight stutter during preview when it switches clips. Rendering should not be an issue.

Randy Stewart
December 26th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Did you click the record button at the bottom of the timeline section? There are two buttons to hit...one to arm the track (on the audio track on the left) that gets Vegas ready to record, and then the little record button at the bottom of the display section. I had a similar problem the first time I tried VO in Vegas. Hope this helps.
Randy

Brian Luce
December 26th, 2006, 11:48 AM
Did you click the record button at the bottom of the timeline section? There are two buttons to hit...one to arm the track (on the audio track on the left) that gets Vegas ready to record, and then the little record button at the bottom of the display section. I had a similar problem the first time I tried VO in Vegas. Hope this helps.
Randy

Eureka! The record arm button was hidden behind the timeline--had to reduce the timeline window just to see the little bugger. works perfectly now. Thanks.