PDX10 -- various questions

Matt Helme · September 6th, 2005, 03:22 PM

Why would Sony claim that the max. f-stop opening is 1.6 when it is really 2.8 on th PDX-10?

Tom Hardwick · September 6th, 2005, 11:36 PM

Why? Because it sounds a whole lot better in the advertising splurge. And because everyone else does this - they give the (theoretical) maximum aperture at the wide end of the zoom, and ignore the tele end.

Theoretical? Why, sure. The lens is designed as an f/1.6 but production and build tolerances of a 12 element zoom will mean that most are f/1.8 on a good day. Manufacturers work inside a ''10% tolerance'' zone that they believe isn't cheating.

Panasonic's posh 10 page brochure for the DVX100A doesn't once mention that their lens is an f/2.8 at 45 mm, and it's no wonder they're too embarrassed to mention this when their hot competitor the PD170 is f/2.4 at a much longer 72 mm focal length.

But the good news is that many camcorders are now being designed with lenses that maintain their maximum aperture throughout the zoom range, and it's about time too. In Super-8 days Canon, Nikon and Minolta all had 10x zooms that were f/1.4 throughout, so it can be done. Problem is it can be done at a cost, weight and size disadvantage.

tom.

James Darren · October 15th, 2005, 06:59 AM

Hi all,

Does anyone know of any major films or well known doco's where footage from the PDX10 has been used in?

I believe Soundtrack to War was made with a PDX10 & also some parts of Farenheit 9/11 used it too... www.soundtracktowar.com

Anyone know of anymore?....

Boyd Ostroff · October 15th, 2005, 08:14 AM

Some previous discussion on this topic:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43065
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=35370
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=41011

Ari Shomair · November 21st, 2005, 05:02 PM

I'm looking to list my PDX-10P On ebay but can figure out what price to set it at. What is the going rate for a PDX 10 Pal these days?
Thanks
Ari

Ari Shomair · November 24th, 2005, 10:32 AM

Hmmm... maybe I'll throw a number out there.. They Cost ~$2600 New from BH I believe, so is $1700 a reasonable number?

Boyd Ostroff · November 24th, 2005, 12:41 PM

See the following related thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52043

B&H lists it for $2,550 however they're out of stock. And if you go to Sony's European website it says the PDX-10p is no longer being manufactured and has been replaced by the HVR-A1. Interestingly, Sony's US site still lists the NTSC version, and the company denies that it's been discontinued. See the following:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49260

It's interesting that there's such a disparity of pricing. With the rebate you can get a new NTSC PDX-10 for $1,700 at B&H. Do you really need the PAL version?

Sean McHenry · November 26th, 2005, 01:22 AM

Boyd, he's selling. At least I think he is.

Sean

Ari Shomair · November 26th, 2005, 09:28 AM

Yup, I'm selling :)

Damien Greaves · January 16th, 2006, 05:37 PM

hey fellas happy new year

i'm lookin for a cheap but good wireless mic system for my pdx10 a combo if possible lavelair and handheld

i already have a lavelair and a handheld but i was thinkin it may be good to have a separate system

i need this info kinda asap thanks

Sean McHenry · January 16th, 2006, 07:34 PM

Azden 100LT has been great for me. Even saved me the first day I had it as the Lectrosonic UHF we had died.

If the mic heads were something a bit more petite, I bet they would sell a lot more however.

Sean

Jeroen Elbertse · February 6th, 2006, 08:41 AM

I have a problem. We have 2 Sony PDX10 camera's and we want to purchase a number of extra batteries. I have looked at the Lenmar LISQM91 which according to the Lenmar website fits on the PDX10, but according to a local shop this battery don't fit on our camera. Is there anyone who has experience with this combination?

Boyd Ostroff · February 6th, 2006, 09:26 AM

The Sony part number is NP-QM91, so it appears that Lenmar is using a similar numbering scheme. However I have only used real Sony batteries on my PDX-10 so I can't say for sure.

Jonathan Downs · February 22nd, 2006, 12:23 PM

hello,

i'm looking for a better eyecup for my pdx10. i know pdx10 is not listed as a suggested camera for this piece, but does anyone know if i could fit one of these:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

on a pdx10 somehow? or any other suggestions?

thanks,
jon.

Craig Bellaire · February 27th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Ok we did a 3 camera shoot with 3 pdx 10's. 7 tapes each camera. 21 tapes over all. We have several Sony decks meaning dsr-20, 30's... All 3 cameras used dv-cam, BUT one camera's tapes when trying to capture using Premier Pro 2.0 is showing no time code... Any ideas? Thanks

September 6th, 2005, 03:22 PM	#226
Matt Helme New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Amboy New Jersey Posts: 22	F-Stop Why would Sony claim that the max. f-stop opening is 1.6 when it is really 2.8 on th PDX-10?

October 15th, 2005, 06:59 AM	#228
James Darren Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 235	What Major Films/Doco's have had PDX10 Footage? Hi all, Does anyone know of any major films or well known doco's where footage from the PDX10 has been used in? I believe Soundtrack to War was made with a PDX10 & also some parts of Farenheit 9/11 used it too... www.soundtracktowar.com Anyone know of anymore?....

November 21st, 2005, 05:02 PM	#230
Ari Shomair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LA, California, USA Posts: 224	What is the going price for a used PDX-10 PAL? I'm looking to list my PDX-10P On ebay but can figure out what price to set it at. What is the going rate for a PDX 10 Pal these days? Thanks Ari

November 26th, 2005, 01:22 AM	#233
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Boyd, he's selling. At least I think he is. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

January 16th, 2006, 05:37 PM	#235
Damien Greaves Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: trinidad Posts: 46	lookin for a wireless mic for the pdx10 hey fellas happy new year i'm lookin for a cheap but good wireless mic system for my pdx10 a combo if possible lavelair and handheld i already have a lavelair and a handheld but i was thinkin it may be good to have a separate system i need this info kinda asap thanks

September 6th, 2005, 11:36 PM	#227
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Why? Because it sounds a whole lot better in the advertising splurge. And because everyone else does this - they give the (theoretical) maximum aperture at the wide end of the zoom, and ignore the tele end. Theoretical? Why, sure. The lens is designed as an f/1.6 but production and build tolerances of a 12 element zoom will mean that most are f/1.8 on a good day. Manufacturers work inside a ''10% tolerance'' zone that they believe isn't cheating. Panasonic's posh 10 page brochure for the DVX100A doesn't once mention that their lens is an f/2.8 at 45 mm, and it's no wonder they're too embarrassed to mention this when their hot competitor the PD170 is f/2.4 at a much longer 72 mm focal length. But the good news is that many camcorders are now being designed with lenses that maintain their maximum aperture throughout the zoom range, and it's about time too. In Super-8 days Canon, Nikon and Minolta all had 10x zooms that were f/1.4 throughout, so it can be done. Problem is it can be done at a cost, weight and size disadvantage. tom.

October 15th, 2005, 08:14 AM	#229
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Some previous discussion on this topic: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43065 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=35370 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=41011

November 24th, 2005, 10:32 AM	#231
Ari Shomair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LA, California, USA Posts: 224	Hmmm... maybe I'll throw a number out there.. They Cost ~$2600 New from BH I believe, so is $1700 a reasonable number?

November 24th, 2005, 12:41 PM	#232
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	See the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52043 B&H lists it for $2,550 however they're out of stock. And if you go to Sony's European website it says the PDX-10p is no longer being manufactured and has been replaced by the HVR-A1. Interestingly, Sony's US site still lists the NTSC version, and the company denies that it's been discontinued. See the following: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49260 It's interesting that there's such a disparity of pricing. With the rebate you can get a new NTSC PDX-10 for $1,700 at B&H. Do you really need the PAL version?

November 26th, 2005, 09:28 AM	#234
Ari Shomair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LA, California, USA Posts: 224	Yup, I'm selling :)

January 16th, 2006, 07:34 PM	#236
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Azden 100LT has been great for me. Even saved me the first day I had it as the Lectrosonic UHF we had died. If the mic heads were something a bit more petite, I bet they would sell a lot more however. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

February 6th, 2006, 08:41 AM	#237
Jeroen Elbertse Tourist Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2	Lenmar Battery for PDX10 I have a problem. We have 2 Sony PDX10 camera's and we want to purchase a number of extra batteries. I have looked at the Lenmar LISQM91 which according to the Lenmar website fits on the PDX10, but according to a local shop this battery don't fit on our camera. Is there anyone who has experience with this combination?

February 6th, 2006, 09:26 AM	#238
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	The Sony part number is NP-QM91, so it appears that Lenmar is using a similar numbering scheme. However I have only used real Sony batteries on my PDX-10 so I can't say for sure.

February 22nd, 2006, 12:23 PM	#239
Jonathan Downs Tourist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pawtucket, RI Posts: 4	Videosmith IKKUP w/ PDX10? (Better Eyecup) hello, i'm looking for a better eyecup for my pdx10. i know pdx10 is not listed as a suggested camera for this piece, but does anyone know if i could fit one of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation on a pdx10 somehow? or any other suggestions? thanks, jon.

February 27th, 2006, 06:54 PM	#240
Craig Bellaire Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422	Time Code Ok we did a 3 camera shoot with 3 pdx 10's. 7 tapes each camera. 21 tapes over all. We have several Sony decks meaning dsr-20, 30's... All 3 cameras used dv-cam, BUT one camera's tapes when trying to capture using Premier Pro 2.0 is showing no time code... Any ideas? Thanks __________________ Craig Bellaire www.VerticalVideoSolutions.com