Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Adam Kampia · June 14th, 2005, 09:44 AM

What really made me take this seriously is the fact that Adobe actually admitted a flaw.

They didn't try to pass it off as a "feature enhancement" that needed to be "optimized" by this patch.

Must be very bad indeed.

Derek Brameyer · June 14th, 2005, 12:41 PM

Hey all,

I'm using Adobe After Effects 6.0 to do some "cloning," and it seems that whenever I see the video, there is a noticeable amount of pixelation. This is especially apparent when I add it to a Premiere timeline with other non-edited film. Is this normal for AE? The pixelation is small, and would be overlooked normally, but upon closer inspection it is easily seen. I'm doing cloning with raw .avi footage, and rendering in a lossless format, and in both the previews and the renders, the pixelation is there. I'm just wondering what the cause of the pixelation is and how I can fix it.

Thanks!

-Derek

Steven White · June 14th, 2005, 05:34 PM

Are you rendering using "Draft" settings perhaps? (as opposed to "Best")

-Steve

Clarence Walker · June 15th, 2005, 10:48 AM

I just purchased PPro and was saddened to discover the lack of fancy fonts (most look the same). Specifically I'm looking for ones used on wedding titles that look like caligraphy/handwriting.

Is there software with additional fonts that can be added to the PPro title designer (or is Photoshop the answer), or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

K. Forman · June 15th, 2005, 12:46 PM

You can go online, and search for fonts... And that is where the fun really begins! Most programs will use fonts already installed, so just start looking at the millions of sites that have fonts, and download a few you like.

Aanarav Sareen · June 15th, 2005, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

You can go online, and search for fonts... And that is where the fun really begins! Most programs will use fonts already installed, so just start looking at the millions of sites that have fonts, and download a few you like.

Agreed! Take a look at http://www.dafont.com.

K. Forman · June 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM

Should I warn him, he is about to enter "pop-up Hell"?

Derek Brameyer · June 15th, 2005, 04:38 PM

Nope..."Best" Settings and "Lossless" Output (with audio added). The pixelation is bugging me now, and I don't know why it's happening. It's completely different with Premiere...looks like a normal .avi. But footage in AE looks terribly pixelated, even when I just import it into a composition, no effects. I just noticed it since I started working with Premiere. Anyone know what the problem is?

Clarence Walker · June 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM

Thanks Aanarav and Keith:

Just loaded the fonts onto a CD here at work. Now I'm going to try to load them into Premiere at home.

Can't believe it's that simple. Will let know how it works tomorrow.

Clarence

Jim Gunn · June 15th, 2005, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy McKenzie

Understood with regard to scenealyzer and it's capabilities. The reason for not wishing to use a 3rd party capture is to maintain the integrity of the backup and long term storage of an offline file and use the source tape as a part of that equation.

I use Scenalyzer Live to capture dv footage and it is a GREAT- even superior- tool for making backups of source footage of my projects and for long term storage. As a matter of fact it has the ability to save the exact file names of your multiple captured dv avi clips so you can easily reconstitute your Premiere Pro projects as long as you save the project files and misc. graphics & titles along with the source footage on mini-dv.

Webb Pickersgill · June 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM

I agree with you Derek, I have noticed the same thing... but I thought it was just me. I still haven't figured it out, so any insight that someone can provide would be helpful.

My only thought is that I'm taking the 4:3 image I captured with an XL1s and upscaling it 135% to fit in the 16:9 frame then rendering it out. It might be the upscaling that's doing it. You wouldn't happen to be doing something similar would you? I haven't tried a straight 4:3 to 4:3 output to see if that pixelates too.

Kin Kwan · June 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM

Is your footage interlaced? If so, check to see if your footage is only interpreted bottom field only. I think that's what it's called, I don't have AfterFX on this computer right now. In your composition, right click on your footage > interpret footage > fields (make sure it's showing both fields). Hope this helps a bit.

Steven White · June 16th, 2005, 07:26 AM

Yeah, if the footage is interlaced After Effects almost always separates the fields. You could be seeing a vertical resolution drop by nearly a factor of 2, especially if you're not doing the deinterlace with best quality settings.

Furthermore, blowing up a 4:3 XL1s frame to 16:9 anamorphic frame will only decrease image quality. You'd be better off to just letterbox the 4:3 image.
-Steve

Markus Klatt · June 16th, 2005, 02:01 PM

Hi there,

which filter in Adobe Premiere 6.5 (or PP 1.5) must I apply to a DV-video, when I want to correct the color temp. a little?

Say, I filmed with outdoor WB which is Celvin 5500°. When I now need a correction to say 4500° to 4800° - which is the correct filter to use to achieve this with best results and smallest quality loss / noise?

The Color Balance Filter HLS?
The Channel Mixer?
Or what?
With what settings, please?

BTW - I use it for night skys with fireworks. I have my correct WB in Canon and Sony cam stored but sometimes I need to adjust these a little, when they become a little to cold or warm...

Thanks in advance,
regards
Markus

Derek Brameyer · June 16th, 2005, 06:05 PM

Thanks a lot! That did it!

June 14th, 2005, 12:41 PM	#1067
Derek Brameyer New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12	Adobe After Effects: Pixelation Help! Hey all, I'm using Adobe After Effects 6.0 to do some "cloning," and it seems that whenever I see the video, there is a noticeable amount of pixelation. This is especially apparent when I add it to a Premiere timeline with other non-edited film. Is this normal for AE? The pixelation is small, and would be overlooked normally, but upon closer inspection it is easily seen. I'm doing cloning with raw .avi footage, and rendering in a lossless format, and in both the previews and the renders, the pixelation is there. I'm just wondering what the cause of the pixelation is and how I can fix it. Thanks! -Derek Last edited by Derek Brameyer; June 15th, 2005 at 04:39 PM.

June 15th, 2005, 10:48 AM	#1069
Clarence Walker Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 31	Missing Fancy Fonts I just purchased PPro and was saddened to discover the lack of fancy fonts (most look the same). Specifically I'm looking for ones used on wedding titles that look like caligraphy/handwriting. Is there software with additional fonts that can be added to the PPro title designer (or is Photoshop the answer), or am I missing something? Thanks in advance.

June 15th, 2005, 12:46 PM	#1070
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	You can go online, and search for fonts... And that is where the fun really begins! Most programs will use fonts already installed, so just start looking at the millions of sites that have fonts, and download a few you like. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

June 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM	#1072
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Should I warn him, he is about to enter "pop-up Hell"? __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

June 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM	#1074
Clarence Walker Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 31	Fonts Thanks Aanarav and Keith: Just loaded the fonts onto a CD here at work. Now I'm going to try to load them into Premiere at home. Can't believe it's that simple. Will let know how it works tomorrow. Clarence

June 14th, 2005, 09:44 AM	#1066
Adam Kampia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 58	What really made me take this seriously is the fact that Adobe actually admitted a flaw. They didn't try to pass it off as a "feature enhancement" that needed to be "optimized" by this patch. Must be very bad indeed.

June 14th, 2005, 05:34 PM	#1068
Steven White Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 547	Are you rendering using "Draft" settings perhaps? (as opposed to "Best") -Steve

June 15th, 2005, 04:38 PM	#1073
Derek Brameyer New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12	Nope..."Best" Settings and "Lossless" Output (with audio added). The pixelation is bugging me now, and I don't know why it's happening. It's completely different with Premiere...looks like a normal .avi. But footage in AE looks terribly pixelated, even when I just import it into a composition, no effects. I just noticed it since I started working with Premiere. Anyone know what the problem is?

June 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM	#1076
Webb Pickersgill Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 204	I Agree I agree with you Derek, I have noticed the same thing... but I thought it was just me. I still haven't figured it out, so any insight that someone can provide would be helpful. My only thought is that I'm taking the 4:3 image I captured with an XL1s and upscaling it 135% to fit in the 16:9 frame then rendering it out. It might be the upscaling that's doing it. You wouldn't happen to be doing something similar would you? I haven't tried a straight 4:3 to 4:3 output to see if that pixelates too. __________________ Webb Pickersgill Bassline Digital, LLC

June 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM	#1077
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	Is your footage interlaced? If so, check to see if your footage is only interpreted bottom field only. I think that's what it's called, I don't have AfterFX on this computer right now. In your composition, right click on your footage > interpret footage > fields (make sure it's showing both fields). Hope this helps a bit.

June 16th, 2005, 07:26 AM	#1078
Steven White Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 547	Yeah, if the footage is interlaced After Effects almost always separates the fields. You could be seeing a vertical resolution drop by nearly a factor of 2, especially if you're not doing the deinterlace with best quality settings. Furthermore, blowing up a 4:3 XL1s frame to 16:9 anamorphic frame will only decrease image quality. You'd be better off to just letterbox the 4:3 image. -Steve

June 16th, 2005, 02:01 PM	#1079
Markus Klatt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 169	Which filter to use for color temperatur correction? Hi there, which filter in Adobe Premiere 6.5 (or PP 1.5) must I apply to a DV-video, when I want to correct the color temp. a little? Say, I filmed with outdoor WB which is Celvin 5500°. When I now need a correction to say 4500° to 4800° - which is the correct filter to use to achieve this with best results and smallest quality loss / noise? The Color Balance Filter HLS? The Channel Mixer? Or what? With what settings, please? BTW - I use it for night skys with fireworks. I have my correct WB in Canon and Sony cam stored but sometimes I need to adjust these a little, when they become a little to cold or warm... Thanks in advance, regards Markus

June 16th, 2005, 06:05 PM	#1080
Derek Brameyer New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12	Thanks a lot! That did it!