Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Ming Dong · June 27th, 2005, 04:23 PM

I would love to upgrade for $99. But I can only find $199 on Adobe's Website. Got link?

Pete Bauer · June 27th, 2005, 05:31 PM

Looks like they quit offering the $99 for a 1.0 to 1.5 upgrade, and lumped it in with the 6.5 to 1.5 upgrade at double the price (GOUGE!).

My personal opinion: Unless I was absolutely desperate to get the features in 1.5 right now I'd protest with my wallet and refuse to buy a 1.0 to 1.5 upgrade at that price. Even then, I might switch to a competitor. Never mind that I've been using Adobe products for a long time (have spent WAY more money on Adobe in the last 5 years than I have on Microsoft) I just think that this is WRONG.

Maybe we ARE missing something because this just doesn't seem reasonable and not in line with the way they've offered other upgrades. Since I need to ask about another upgrade issue, I'll email Adobe support tomorrow and see what they say, if anything.

Andrew Khalil · June 27th, 2005, 10:02 PM

You didn't mention the speed and size of the drive you are using.
Are you using a dedicated video drive? If so, how fast is it? If not, are there other programs that may be accesing the drive and competing with Premiere for it?

Ed Smith · June 28th, 2005, 05:46 AM

Hi Jim,

I don't see no reason why the GL1 will not be supported! I've used my XL1 with no problem.

Hopefully a few guys with the GL1 will reply...

Cheers,

Greg Harris · June 28th, 2005, 01:03 PM

Ok I have premier pro 1 and I have tons of 24p footy that I have filmed with my dvx. If I burn this onto a DVD would it loose the 24p "film look"? My last video seemed that had 24p footy didn't turn out as good as it looked as I would play it on my timeline and my TV. By getting premier pro 1.5 cant you capture 24p footy? Would that help a lot, and are there settings to exporting 24p footy to DVD. Also, once I have captured all of my 24p footy to my computer and want to convert it to 24p on my computer if I upgrade is it too late, and will I need to recapture all of my 24p footy?

Hugh DiMauro · June 28th, 2005, 01:03 PM

Could it be that since you shot in frame mode you need to set Premiere to 29.97 progressive?

Hugh DiMauro · June 28th, 2005, 02:16 PM

the 1.5.1 is an HD upgrade, I think.

Joshua Provost · June 28th, 2005, 03:56 PM

Rod,

MiniDV and DV-AVI have a very limited colorspace (search on 4:1:1). If you start playing with Gamma, Contrast, and Color Correction beyond very subtle changes, you will quickly uncover the limitations of the color space. Gamma, in particular, can be very unforgiving.

For starters, yes, you are losing quality by color correcting and rendering out to Microsoft DV (DV-AVI). When I do CC, I work only with uncompressed AVIs.

Also, you might look into "deartifacting". That is, restoring some of the lost color information. You would want to deartifact first, then do your color correction.

Josh

Wes Coughlin · June 28th, 2005, 09:35 PM

This most likley wont help; but if you leave the camera pluged in, it causes pauses in playback. Other then that, reload premiere and try it again; im pretty sure it most likley wont be your hard drive to cause it to pause for 10 seconds; unless all those computer specs were upgrades from an old computer, and the harddrive was never updated as well.

Wes Coughlin · June 28th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Dont quote me; but every single cam ive ever used to hook up to many different versions of premiere have worked. As long as the computer pics it up, premiere will. So dont worry it will work.

Rick Step · June 29th, 2005, 01:32 PM

It's definitely not a hard drive issue. I'm not capturing, just previewing. It works fine on my computer, but on my brother's comp, it doesn't. Same exact settings. Wierd

Wes Coughlin · June 29th, 2005, 07:48 PM

Premiere 1 does not offer any 24p settings, you will need to update to 1.5. premire 1.5 will reconized the capture footage from premiere 1 if its 24p. Premiere 1.5 somtimes has a bug in it, that does not allow you to capture from your camera, but you can still use P1 to capture your raw footage, then import it into a premiere 24p project.

Jeremiah Rickert · June 30th, 2005, 12:33 AM

My GL1 works perfectly with Premiere Pro 1.5, and originally I was using it with just a six dollar Firewire PCI card.

Jeremiah

Jarrod Lott · June 30th, 2005, 08:02 AM

Been using my GL-1 with premiere since 6.0, no probs. I do think it's pretty silly that the GL-1 is the camera thet have on the box of the software (at least for 6.5) but it's not selectable as an option when you input your camera model. I guess that shows Premiere's former non-pro status, cause all the cameras on the drop-down are consumer models.

J-Rod

Dylan Tucker · June 30th, 2005, 05:08 PM

I have an mp4 file that I need to work with in premiere but, as of now premiere says it is unsupported. Is there any way around this?

June 27th, 2005, 05:31 PM	#1157
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Looks like they quit offering the $99 for a 1.0 to 1.5 upgrade, and lumped it in with the 6.5 to 1.5 upgrade at double the price (GOUGE!). My personal opinion: Unless I was absolutely desperate to get the features in 1.5 right now I'd protest with my wallet and refuse to buy a 1.0 to 1.5 upgrade at that price. Even then, I might switch to a competitor. Never mind that I've been using Adobe products for a long time (have spent WAY more money on Adobe in the last 5 years than I have on Microsoft) I just think that this is WRONG. Maybe we ARE missing something because this just doesn't seem reasonable and not in line with the way they've offered other upgrades. Since I need to ask about another upgrade issue, I'll email Adobe support tomorrow and see what they say, if anything. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

June 28th, 2005, 05:46 AM	#1159
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Jim, I don't see no reason why the GL1 will not be supported! I've used my XL1 with no problem. Hopefully a few guys with the GL1 will reply... Cheers, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 28th, 2005, 01:03 PM	#1160
Greg Harris Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 356	24p in P Pro1 Ok I have premier pro 1 and I have tons of 24p footy that I have filmed with my dvx. If I burn this onto a DVD would it loose the 24p "film look"? My last video seemed that had 24p footy didn't turn out as good as it looked as I would play it on my timeline and my TV. By getting premier pro 1.5 cant you capture 24p footy? Would that help a lot, and are there settings to exporting 24p footy to DVD. Also, once I have captured all of my 24p footy to my computer and want to convert it to 24p on my computer if I upgrade is it too late, and will I need to recapture all of my 24p footy?

June 28th, 2005, 01:03 PM	#1161
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	Just My Two Cents Worth Could it be that since you shot in frame mode you need to set Premiere to 29.97 progressive? __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

June 28th, 2005, 02:16 PM	#1162
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	the 1.5.1 is an HD upgrade, I think. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

June 27th, 2005, 04:23 PM	#1156
Ming Dong Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 92	I would love to upgrade for $99. But I can only find $199 on Adobe's Website. Got link?

June 27th, 2005, 10:02 PM	#1158
Andrew Khalil Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 424	You didn't mention the speed and size of the drive you are using. Are you using a dedicated video drive? If so, how fast is it? If not, are there other programs that may be accesing the drive and competing with Premiere for it?

June 28th, 2005, 03:56 PM	#1163
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Rod, MiniDV and DV-AVI have a very limited colorspace (search on 4:1:1). If you start playing with Gamma, Contrast, and Color Correction beyond very subtle changes, you will quickly uncover the limitations of the color space. Gamma, in particular, can be very unforgiving. For starters, yes, you are losing quality by color correcting and rendering out to Microsoft DV (DV-AVI). When I do CC, I work only with uncompressed AVIs. Also, you might look into "deartifacting". That is, restoring some of the lost color information. You would want to deartifact first, then do your color correction. Josh __________________ Owner/Operator, 727 Records Co-Founder, Matter of Chance Productions Blogger, Try Avoidance

June 28th, 2005, 09:35 PM	#1164
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	This most likley wont help; but if you leave the camera pluged in, it causes pauses in playback. Other then that, reload premiere and try it again; im pretty sure it most likley wont be your hard drive to cause it to pause for 10 seconds; unless all those computer specs were upgrades from an old computer, and the harddrive was never updated as well. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

June 28th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#1165
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	Dont quote me; but every single cam ive ever used to hook up to many different versions of premiere have worked. As long as the computer pics it up, premiere will. So dont worry it will work. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

June 29th, 2005, 01:32 PM	#1166
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	It's definitely not a hard drive issue. I'm not capturing, just previewing. It works fine on my computer, but on my brother's comp, it doesn't. Same exact settings. Wierd

June 29th, 2005, 07:48 PM	#1167
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	Premiere 1 does not offer any 24p settings, you will need to update to 1.5. premire 1.5 will reconized the capture footage from premiere 1 if its 24p. Premiere 1.5 somtimes has a bug in it, that does not allow you to capture from your camera, but you can still use P1 to capture your raw footage, then import it into a premiere 24p project. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

June 30th, 2005, 12:33 AM	#1168
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	Works for me My GL1 works perfectly with Premiere Pro 1.5, and originally I was using it with just a six dollar Firewire PCI card. Jeremiah

June 30th, 2005, 08:02 AM	#1169
Jarrod Lott Tourist Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2	same here Been using my GL-1 with premiere since 6.0, no probs. I do think it's pretty silly that the GL-1 is the camera thet have on the box of the software (at least for 6.5) but it's not selectable as an option when you input your camera model. I guess that shows Premiere's former non-pro status, cause all the cameras on the drop-down are consumer models. J-Rod

June 30th, 2005, 05:08 PM	#1170
Dylan Tucker Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Delhi/Albany, NY Posts: 55	mp4 in premiere pro?? I have an mp4 file that I need to work with in premiere but, as of now premiere says it is unsupported. Is there any way around this?