I recall someone discussing doing this in Vegas. A quick search lead me to this thread: http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=361821

<<<-- Originally posted by Mitch Buss : How would you go about it in After Effects? I've been meaning to do something similar to that as well. -->>>

Take a look in that Vegas thread. You can do all of that in AfterEffects but with the better tools in AfterEffects. The point of that thread is that the better tools just make it easier, not that you can't do it in a bread and butter video editing program like Vegas.

got a bunch of stuff up on our site, the 'Demo Intro' is a piece i was working on for an intro to a promotional dvd for the mag. we dont specialize in video, i just have a passion for it.

a lot of the video is crap, so if you feel like giving me creative suggestions, PLEASE do!

http://labproductions.com/news/labtv/

i'd suggest the DVD INTRO and Eagles of Death Metal.

most were shot on a sony digital 8, and the EODM was shot on my xl1s.

all done in vegas 4 and 5.

How will the new release of Windows XP 64 bit (coupled with a 64 bit CPU) benefit us Vegas users?

Really hard to say since it cannot really be tested at this point.

Probably not. 64 bit just means bigger numbers. Right now the biggest numbers used in video is 32-bit floating point for rendering. Acquisition is 8bit for DV, and 10bit for uncompressed and 12-bit for some film formats. I might be wrong, but I don't envision video programs use 64-bit numbers for rendering as the extra precision would be totally unnecessary and add to rendering time.

hang back for v6 ....

from what ive heard, its going to change the way ppl see sw based editors......... put it this way, irrespective of whether ur lookin at 32 or 64 bit. if u have a HT processor u can expect some major MAJOR changes..

Just a reminder that nothing has yet been announced concerning Vegas 6 or what it may contain.

Hey all,

This might not be an XL2 issue but a Vegas 5 issue - but I'll work backwards here.

Was messing around with the interval time function then running the tape off into Vegas 5 (build b).

The oddest thing happened in that Vegas completely ignored the section of the tape where I recorded a sequence set at a .5 second capture at 30 second intervals. Vegas grabbed everything else off the tape except this 30 second section. Went back a few times to try and recapture that section but nada. Very odd.

Anyone else come across this?

Dan
nyc

oops - looks like I was moved. sorry about that.

so to clear it up a bit - it's the canon xl2 going into vegas 5 (build b) that i'm working with.

sorry for the misspost.

db

You may have "Minimum Clip Length" turned on and it is ignoring the .5 second clips because they were "mistakes" (i.e. accidentally starting and quickly stopping the camera - or so it thinks.) Turn off that option and see if it will capture that section.

Voila! That did it. So many little things in Vegas I haven't found yet...

Thanks a bunch Edward.

Dan

Glad to hear it all worked out.

true very true.. NAB should unveil the surprise ;)

I also have to check off "Enable DV Scene Detection" when capturing because else it creates one DV file for each intervall recording ...

Frank

frank thanks for that tip because if this wasn't just a test, the large bulk of .5 sec files i have sitting in a file would be a bit upsetting....

dan

Hello,

I had about 50 events in the timeline. After the editing was complete, I made the letterbox for the first event.
But I did not know how to put the letterbox to all events rather than clicking Even Pan/Crop button for each events.


How do you put the letterbox to all events simultaneously?

Apply a Mask on a Video Track above your project. get the file here:

http://www.visuar.com/letterbox/calc.htm

and stretch teh file the length of your video...then render it out.

simple.

- ShannonRawls.com

Thanks Shannon,

but I like to stick with Event Pan/Mask tool. Trying to find out on how to apply the letterbox on all events simultaneously, and not individually (which takes a long time).

Here's an honest articel about 64bit computing.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1

To apply them to ALL events, you may get unexpected results - especially if you have added any effects along the way, but you can try:

Add the pan/crop to the first event, copy that event, choose the remaining events, right-click and choose "Paste Event Attributes".

However, you're much better off doing as suggested and applying a mask on a new track above these events.

It really depends on what you want to do with them. For example, if you just want a single file containing the entire time lapse section, then you definitely want to turn scene detection off.

However, you may only want a couple frames out of each event and all of them placed on the timeline as separate events. In this case you might want each to be a separate event that a script could modify.

So, basically, I'm saying use the mode that best fits your need for any given point in time.

Hi Edward. I found out it was much easier to just have one clip. So many clips is just unmanagable to save. And if you just want a few frames or even one per sequence, you just speed the footage up in your NLE.

I got great results doing it that way.

Frank

Ok here we go. I used an XL2 with true 16:9 turned on, as well as three dvx100s with fake 16:9. I need to combine all the cams together into one track but want to keep the quality as best as possible. I read in the manual that you can just drop a 16:9 track into the timeline of a 4:3 project and it will adjust, which it did, but I have also read that you should ALWAYS keep your footage in a project the same as you footage to maintain quality.

If I use a 16:9 project to account for the xl2 footage, the dvx footage looks doubely letterboxed, it stretches it, and has the black bars wich were recorded onto the picture, unknown to me untill after the fact.

My question is, how would you combine the two and keep the best quality? should i use a 4:3 project or a 16:9 project? Or other. Thanks! oh ya its all 24p and will mainly if not completly, be viewed on 4:3 tvs.

Sounds to me like the DVX footage isn't being interpreted as 16:9. What if you right-click the DVX footage, go to properties, and change the settings there? Then does it work in a 16:9 project?

First question:

Does the audio portion of a video DVD audio have to be 48khz in it’s final state? Or can it be 44.1khz? Further, can both sample rates co-exist on a DVD? I know it sounds like a stupid question, but I still need to ask!

I’ve rendered the audio portion of my video at 44.1khz -- will it have to be resample up to 48khz on the final DVD?

Why did I do that you ask? Because of my second question…

Second Question:

I’ve used ‘match media settings’ under project properties…

I pointed to a project file for the settings to match up to, clicked on it…

Then I check under project properties>audio tab – I get a sample rate of 44.1. The video/audio track captured (the one I clicked on) is 48khz – why does this not change automatically (like the video settings do) to match that of my captured audio?

Further, after rendering to mpeg2 with layer 2 audio 48khz, I get an audible hum. If I render the audio portion to 44.1 – no hum. It sounds as it does within Vegas.

I don’t understand what’s going on here. If the file in the media pool didn’t say that the audio portion of the video file was 48khz, I’d say that it was a sample conversion problem. But, both the original and rendered are 48khz – It doesn’t make sense.

Does the setting under ‘project settings’ have something to do with this. I’ve tried changing it to 48khz and rendering at 48khz audio and I still get the hum…

Any ideas? I’ve searched the board for help with this problem and came up empty…

Thanks all!

Ok, turns out that my footage from the dvx was shot LETTERBOXED. Which is actually 4:3 with black bars correct? I dont own a dvx just xl2 so Im not sure. If thats the case, then will stretching to match the 16:9 of the xl2 result in loss of resolution?

And if it will loose quality, which Im not up for doing, should I edit in 4:3 with the letterboxed black bars and import the 16:9 footage into the project ? How much quality will I loose from the xl2 footage, if any, in doing this?

I captured the XL2 stuff as 16:9 and the DVX as 4:3.

Sorry for so many question but Im slightly panicing that this all wont match up. thanks

Hello everybody,
I want to know:
1. In the most DV cameras there is an effect "slow motion 10x". This effect is like a slow motion in real time. But how to make it with Vegas 5?
2. How to edit frame-by-frame on the timeline in Vegas 5? Or to play frame-by-frame?

Plamen,

1. To create slow-motion there are two options I can think of:
a. Hover the mouse over the right edge of you video event on the timeline (you'll see the cursor turn into a square with a double-arrow in it), press and hold the CTRL button down, the click and drag the event to the right (or left) in effect stretching it out. You will see a zig-zag line appear in down the horizontal center of your video event.
b. The other option permits you to control the speed of sections of the clip and not just slo-mo the whole clip. Right click the video event on the timeline and go down to "Insert/Remove Envelope" and select "Velocity". That will place a Velocity envelope line through the center of the horizontal axis of your video event. Double-click at the point along the line that you want to slow-down the video. Then double-click just to the right of that. This should leave you with a green line with two 'knots' in it. Now go to the place you want the video to resume normal speed and double-click, then double-click to create another 'knot' right next to that one. Now click on the green line in the middle of the four 'knots' and drag the green line down (how much you pull down is how slow it will play; you can even make it reverse).

2. To edit frame by frame, just put your mouse on an video or audio event on the timeline and push the scroll button on your mouse upward. Keep scrolling up to expand the timeline until you see the individual frames (you'll see the timecode legend read 00:31:26.15, where the .15 is the frame count). Then just use your left and right arrows to move along the timeline one full frame at a time.

If I'm off much in my descriptions, there are enough pros onboard they'll correct this quickly. Happy editing!

In Vegas, hold down alt and then press an arrow key left or right. The playhead will move in increments of 1 frame. Also turn on "quantitize to frames" unders options drop-down menu or alt+f8 if you want to edit in increments of a frame (instead of sub-frame editing, which is geared towards audio).

Hello all-

Been messing with vegas 5 for a few days now. Can somebody take me step by step to properly use the zoom and the pan effects please......?

Ah, and also using "keyframes" perhaps. Thanks in advance!!

I have that all pretty well explained in various articles in my newsletter (see link below my name).

Unfortunately, to fully explain takes much more space that a simple post has room for. Generally speaking:

1) Use Pan/Crop to pan or crop images/video
2) Use Track Motion to resize and move images/video
3) Use keyframes to have them move over time.

To edit an event's in or out point a frame at a time, use the numeric keypad.

7 or 9 puts you into edit mode (7= in, 9 = out). You will see the edge turn red. Edit with the 1 and 3 keys.

Gary

i think that i may need to reformat my computer, a project i take on about every 7-8 months to optimize performance, b/c it seems that the projects that i am rendering in vegas are taking much longer than they use to, which i attribute to a sloppy os.

i think i already know the answer, but there isnt a way to pause and resume a render, is there?

i have a 2.2 xeon, with 512mb of rdram, couple hundred gigs of hdd space.

was working on a 1 hr avi file, tried to render down to an mpg1 for some proofing, and it took like 15 hours. this doesnt sound normal to me. maybe its been a while since I have worked with files of this size, and just dont recall the time it took but it sure seems like its taking much longer than before.

thoughts?

There is no way to pause a render. You COULD render in sections.

I just tried to render an m2t file in Vegas5 to the preset 24p NTSC widescreen...

The video came out great... but there was no Audio!

WHAT GIVES?


HELP!

Was the include audio option turned on?

You can also render the audio to a separate WAV file.

bump up...


If anyone could even answer one or the other, I'd very much appreciate it...

Thanks again --

I believe the DVD standard is 48k.Some things may play I don't know,I guessing most won't play with 44.1k. but to follow the DVD standard use 48k.I would suggest rerendering to a 48k audio however if you don't change the video it should render pretty fast.
Mixing audio of different properties(ie 48k and 44.1k) has been tabu in years past so I automatically convert all my audio to the same as the project settings.I don't know if you HAVE to I just do it.
I'm not sure I get the hum problem.Are you saying you have a project with 48k audio and when rendered as mpg2 at 48k you get hum?
Is that once burned to DVD?are you using AC3?
or played on computer ?
Do you have mixed audio in the timeline(44.1 & 48k)?
With a little more info maybe someone her can figure out your problem

duh, yeah, that was it... my bad... sorry i posted so quick

Joven:

You could do a lot worse than load down all 23 of Edward's newletters, print them out, and read them!

They are one the the quickest ways to get a head's up, they were invaluable to me when I was getting started.

Andy

Yeah, seriously. All you do is drop in this one file (I use a PNG I made myself, but it's the exact same thing), then stretch out the thing in the timeline to cover the whole project. It's extremely simple and takes like 30 seconds.

Ok Ive been editing some xl2 and dvx footage together. Heres the facts.

-The XL2 was captured as 16:9.

-The DVXs were captured as 4:3 and shot letterboxed.

-Vegas is set up as a 4:3 project.

Ok so when I butt the DVX letterboxed with the XL2, I first discovered that the black bars didnt match up and looked like they were jumping around. No problum, I pan/croped the dvx stuff in slightly to match the xl2 letterbox that was automatically produced when I draged the xl2 footage into the 4:3 timeline.

The problum is, when I burnt it out to DVD there is occasioanlly a white line of distortion along the top of the black bars on both the top and bottom. Its slight but noticable. It also seems random. Any ideas what this is?

I figure I can put in a mat on another track to correct but Id rather know what the problum is. Thanks. Oh yeah, is there a downloadable letterbox mat anywhere?

Thanks

What I've found to be what seems to be the "correct way" to do it (assuming you're wanting 16:9) is this: you take something easy, like a solid color, apply the letterbox in pan/crop, then render out that to an AVI File (for some reason, I've had issues using stills, I get a white line at the top of the letterbox, between the black and the video). Take this AVI, put in a track over the video, stretch it to whatever length you need (if it loops, who cares? It's all the same), and use the chroma key to get rid of the solid color.

This may be too elaborate, but it always works for me.

Thank you.....

I use to get a line between the letterbox and the video as well. That was when I was using a gif though. That or something created with the media generator. After I created the same thing as a PNG (which has an alpha channel and all that jazz) it works fine. I just crop it out in Cleaner anyway, but it looks fine.

The PNG method sounds better.

If you use the pan/crop tool, check that effects are applied BEFORE the pan/crop. If you have gaussian blur, then the letterbox (black bars) will get blurred too. Also, you may accidentally copy over some clip attributes you may not want to (like reduce interlace flicker).

<<<-- Originally posted by Glenn Gipson : Here's an honest articel about 64bit computing.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1 -->>>

Very well written - best so far... this section i enjoyed...

"By moving to a 64-bit addressing scheme, the possible address space grows exponentially from 232 to 264, so that the x86-64 ISA allows for what seems like a practically unlimited amount of memory. The theoretical peak size of a 64-bit address space is 16 exabytes, an extremely large number. Current AMD64 processors allow up to 40 bits of physical address space, or one terabyte, and up to 48 bits of virtual address space, or 256TB. Initial versions of WinXP x64 will support as much as 128GB of physical RAM and up to 16 terabytes of virtual memory. The upper limits of the Windows system cache size grow from 1GB in 32 bits to 1TB in 64 bits, a thousand-fold increase. WinXP x64 even takes advantage of the additional headroom for 32-bit apps, giving each one up to 4GB of its own space."

"Special offer: Oder your Dell workstation before August 20 2006 and get two Exabyte of RAM FREE!"

Having trouble saving a file as a quicktime movie. It renders the entire file, but then gives an error message. Any suggestions?

First of all (just to make sure), when you installed Quicktime, you did choose "Custom" and then picked everything (especially the Authoring Components)?

If yes, what error message are you getting?