Not stuttering, but freezing — with nothing but a reboot as a solution.

With that noted, it hasn't happened for several days. I'm not sure why it ever did, but maybe, just maybe, it's never going to happen again.

As far as the long renders with Magic Bullet — I can handle the time away from my video editor. I've just learned not to apply the effect until the very end of the editing process. The time required to try to create a similar look is just not worth it to me. I really like the Bistro look on the footage we shoot on the coast of Maine last summer.

Thanks all, and I will update this thread if Sony comes back with any interesting revelations.

Thanks again,
Brad

Can anyone give me the proper settings and workflow to get a CRISP deinterlace to 30p in Vegas 6. I have been doing what I thought would deinterlace, and it ends up worse than muddy. It ends up with artifacts all over the place.

I feel like there should just be a simple plugin or option in the FX menu to just "deinterlace" but alas...

I think one of three lower field/progressive settings is off. 1)The project properties 2) the render properties 3) the clip properties.

The multiple properties are driving me nuts. What takes precedence?

Thanks,

DJ

There are a few ways:
A- http://mikecrash.wz.cz/vegas/vegas.htm
Better quality than Vegas, although not necessarily faster.

B- In Vegas;
Go to file --> project properties something like that
set de-interlace mode to blend fields. Interpolate field always works, and does something different.

Hit ok.

Right click a clip... in a submenu, there is a setting for reduce interlace flicker.


2- DV is lower field first. (assuming target format is DV) Use the canned presets for project properties and render properties. In clip properties, select the appropriate setting. If the source footage is DV, use lower field first. DV is also interlaced, so tell Vegas it's interlaced.

3- What kind of artifacts are you seeing?

Artifacts: Maybe not properly artifacts. But here are the symptoms.

ALL OF THIS IS WHEN I RENDER FROM WIDESCREEN DV TO 4:3 DV W/LETTERBOXING...

An unwatchable jitter (jutter?) It is alternating between one field and the other. It can even be seen on the letterbox. It is bad.

No matter what I do, even "blend" fields, it looks, at best, like I've "interpolated" fields with steps on every angle.

On tiny details, like eyes at a distance, or small text in the frame, when they move, artifacts--horizontal distortions--appear around them.

IN CLOSING:

The only settings I can choose that make it look good again leave it looking fully video-ey. Fully interlaced, in other words.

I just don't get it. I looked at that great trailer done with a GL2 at this thread ( http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=40437 ) and it was done by deinterlacing 60i footage. It is crisp and filmic. Mine just looks like a siezure.

Hi folks, just got a q about how to create captions or comic style text in a balloon in vegas, media generator has few text options but not the one im after, would i have to create it in 3rd party software or is it possible to create in vegas?


Cheers
Adrian

hmm.. well, I want to automate pitch effect. I mean, I want to pitch down audio track slowly for a few seconds... But, pitch effect in vegas is not automatable... Is there any way I can achieve this in Vegas?

You can create this fine in Vegas. One way to do the "balloon" would be to add a generated media of the proper color and then use Bezier masking to create the shape of the balloon. You might be able to use a "wingdings" style font as well. Another way would be to create the "balloon" as an image and then simply add that image to the timeline.

Now just add a standard text box on the track above to enter the text shown in the balloon. So what you'll have is:

Track 1: Text in the balloon
Track 2: Balloon (image/gen media/text box)
Track 3: Video

Thanks Ed, much appreciated.
Going to experiment with it now.

Thanks
Adrian

I'm rendering a 3 minute piece that has some effects (levels, color correction, and glow to be specific). I wanted the entire piece to be cropped to 1:85:1 via pan/crop but the flash transitions ignore the crop and make the entire screen white.

Pre-Vegas 6 I'd render out a DV-AVI then crop THAT and render to MPG2. Another step, I know- but the only way I could make sure the flash transition wouldn't cover the entire screen outside my crop.

Anyway I figure Vegas 6 will be perfect for this. I can skip rendering it to DV-AVI first and simply drop the VEG file on another timeline as a file and crop THAT. This way I only have to do a single render.

Problem! The render is taking astronomically long. A 3 minute piece which usually might take 20 minutes (due to all the effects) is now taking 80-90 minutes?! Why is this? Is it a known issue that rendering an edit within a encapsolated VEG file on the timeline is slower than rendering the original timeline?

i cant say why its taking that long, and i cant use 6 until i work out how to migrate all my presets across through to V5 (from beta 4) which is what V5 is using as the default preset directory (dont ask m mate, i have no idea why...)

anyways..

what u can do, is layer a 1:85 bar above your initial video track, this way, flashes wont bleed, but the black bars will also be hidden when displayed in 16:9

Having some breakup in the icon "button" video when I make them animate anyone have this happen any ideas

Thanks

Vince
running Vegas 5 and DVDA2 3.0 p4 HT 1gig ram

Is this just in the preview, or still there after the disc is rendered?

Gary

An update to DVD Architect 3 has been released with the following changes:

A bug has been fixed that could cause layer-break issues when creating a master with Opposite track path selected from the Direction of translation drop-down list in the Mastering page of the Properties dialog.

A bug has been fixed that caused the Initial subtitle track setting in the Project Properties to revert to 1 after choosing Off and closing the dialog.

A bug has been fixed that could cause audio and video to fall out of synchronization when recompressing the video stream.

A bug has been fixed that prevented you from replacing a graphic with another image via the Properties window.

A bug has been fixed that prevented you from preparing and burning projects with more than 99 menus.

A bug has been fixed that could cause a white outline to be displayed around imported PSD files.

A check box has been added to the Make DVD wizard to allow you to eject the disc after burning.



Of additional notable interest:

The new version of DVD Architect 3 (version 3.0a) that was recently posted in the downloads section of our website contains an updated MPEG encoder with some fixes that may benefit you. If you have had trouble in any of our apps rendering CBR MPEG-2 or have otherwise had trouble encoding to MPEG-2, especially for DVD delivery, you are advised to install DVD Architect 3.0a. (all of our apps will "see" the updated MPEG components installed by DVD Architect 3.0a, full or demo version).

help!
Using Vegas 6.0d. The MP3 (mpeg-layer 3) render option only has partial options. Yesterday, i had options for 48, 44, and 32 Sample Frequencies. Today i only have 24Khz and below. Also the bit depth and channels are greyed out. I'm not sure why this happened. Did anyone have such a problem? Also what are your mp3 optiosn in vegas. I just want to compare with mine. Thanks a lot!

16 entries from 20k through 320k

Still not working. I am totally baffled by the multiple places to set LFF or UFF, and on top of that, the simple "check reduce interlace flicker" box solution for deinterlacing really doesn't seem to work at all.

Thoughts? Anyone?

Hey im new to vegas... trying to figure some things out and would appriciate some help... i have footage from the xl2 shot at 24p in 16x9 mode... i need to render out uncompressed footage at the same exact size... im getting either horizontal and or vertical stretching when i try and do this.. it seems i am only able to render out the true 16x9 if i do so using their ntsc widescreen option... but that isnt uncompressed.. its just dvcoded crap...

help

Hey im new to vegas... trying to figure some things out and would appriciate some help... i have footage from the xl2 shot at 24p in 16x9 mode... i need to render out uncompressed footage at the same exact size... im getting either horizontal and or vertical stretching when i try and do this.. it seems i am only able to render out the true 16x9 if i do so using their ntsc widescreen option... but that isnt uncompressed.. its just dvcoded crap...

help


What are your capture settings??????

terrifying... i captured it in premiere pro 1.5 in a project slated to be 24pa ....dont know if that effects the capture settings nope it doesnt i just right clicked my original captured file and checked out its properties... 720x480...29.97... i am under the impression that no matter what it captures 29.97.. then u choose to edit it in a 23.976 timeline... anyways frame rates are not of my concern atm... the size in which its outputting files are... does this info help?

I'm pretty sure it has to do with the check box in the render windows that says "do not letterbox" ... this will stretch the footage. Let me take a look and come back and edit this post to be precise.

--- read file name for descritpion of what the still is... maybe this will help more

www.digitalinterference.net/withletterboxuncompe.jpg

www.digitalinterference.net/withoutletterboxuncompresed.jpg

www.digitalinterference.net/perfectdvwidescreen.jpg this is what i want... but in uncompressed

I've posted the link to Mike Crash's filter a few times before, but no-one seems to have used it, I find it works pretty well, I just have to fiddle with the settings to get the least deinterlace artifacts for that particular footage. What's your experience with it Glenn? What settings do you use?

DJ, the artifacting you talk about could be because when you convert 16:9 to 4:3 LB you are resizing the video vertically from 480 pixels to 360 pixels so fields might be getting a bit confused. If you deinterlaced first it might solve the problem.

Black and white video.... but there is blood in the scene.... and only it shows up as real strong red...on video...


Like alot of the effects they did on Sin City?

thanks ahead of time...

after its rendered and burned

Thanks

! This function avial. only in V6

1 Go to Display properties
2 Select the Secundary Monitor, and after this select V on the
Extend my Windows desctop onto this monitor
function
3 Open Vegas - Go to Option -> Preferences ->Preview devices -> Setup you settigs -> Apply, Rastart Vegas and enjoy

Happy Editing

PS This output is Progressive, is NOT Interlaced

N.

* Sorry for my Eng (I'm d't speake English)

I have the procedure for passing both ONE color and MULTIPLE colors in one of the last 3 or 4 issues of my newsletter. Click the link under my name and go to the newsletter archives.

If it is truely viewed as a secondary monitor, it should work. I would suspect that the video driver must make it appear as a secondary monitor. Does your video card have two monitor outputs? Or is it only the single video output plus your "S-Video" output? If it's the second, it's very possible that it isn't a "true" secondary monitor.

Personally, I still use firewire to preview on a TV.

Is there a way to reset vegas (other than holding ctrl-alt and starting vegas. I tried that and it does not work). i dont have 20k through 320k. I just have 20k to 56k. Hopefully resetting vegas will fix this problem.

You could always try an uninstall/reinstall.

I actually got it to work now! My SVHS Exit is a "true" secondary output and also recognized by Vegas.

Now my next Problem is, that my "Video-Monitor" a TV of the real cheap kind is always loosing its Brightness/Contrast/Hue Informations that I tried to save using the Vegas color-Bars feature and the "http://www.videouniversity.com/tvbars2.htm " tutorial.

Is there a good programm out there to save me an ICM profile with "corrected" brightness/color informations to feed into the Vegas Properties, I have already tried Adobe Gamma (which comes with Photoshop), but I am not yet satisfied.

Thanks! Matthias

@Newdjeen: How would I detemine if it is Progressive or Interlaced.

Can you view your video on the monitor in Vegas and an external Monitor connected via firewire at the same time?
Thanks,
Paul D.V.

When stopped: yes. While playing back: no.

Totally. That's it, Kyle. I need to deinterlace before the resize, I think. I will do some tests. But it definitely has to do with the workflow. Nice. Thanks.

On the Mike Crash filter, I've looked, I've tried, and it seems complicated, especially as there is no simple readme or rudimentary instructions. Can anyone give a run-down? Perhaps a seperate thread on that plugin would be in order.

Also, vegas has that plugin preset all ready to go (with differing degrees of success)... the most important thing would be to use a fake blood mixture to really bring out the colour.

FX -> Colour Corrector (secondary) -> Desaturate all but reds

But you should set up the scene so that you won't have other reds. You may want to even cool down the skin tones before you run that filter, as skin has red in it.

Ok does this mean it’s an audible scrub?

Vince

Damn... oh well..... Cool... thanks!
-Paul

Yes it does.

Just looked it up. It's in: Vol 2 #10 - December 2004

Hey Edward,
Thanks for your response. I did try installing and uninstalling vegas. I still ahve the same trouble. I downloaded a codec package called FFdShow. Have other codecs known to cause problems in vegas? I just dont know how to fix this problem.

Figured something out about Mike Crash's smart de-interlace filter:

You have to set project properties to:
Progressive, not lower or upper field first. If you don't do this, the filter will only have access to each field and it won't work with default presets.

De-interlace mode has to be set to None. Otherwise, Vegas' de-interlace method will be used. Which defeats the point of everything, since you want to be using Mike's filter.

2- In the FX window, there are little triangles in the bottom left beside filter names. They determine whether the filter is applied before or after pan/crop. I would assign the de-interlace filter to go before, so click on the triangle once.

If you use external monitor you see

1.In an operating time with envelopes - is cuttin, splitting, panning, adjustmenting effects, etc... - previewing will be in two monitor windows
2. During preview - only on the external monitor

You may wish to call tech support and see if there's a known solution or they can find one. This is not a problem I have heard of.

I still ahve the same trouble. I downloaded a codec package called FFdShow...

NEVER INSTALL ANY CODECS and CODEC-PACKS if you d'nt understand what is this codec and as it works
Codec packs is ONE BIG TROUBLE fnd dont debugged PROBLEM to all NLE Computers.

Next - your problem its problem in you Vegas Software - if you dont understand where is the problem - try install another mp3 codec (for example - Lame)

*FFdShow its not a codec - its DirectShow filter for viewing DivX/XviD video files

Sorry for my English

Here's what I do:

Edit the movie. When you click "Render as" go to the "custom settings" tab. Then click the "video" tab then click "progressive scan". That's the way I do it. It always looks good.

http://eden.rutgers.edu/~zurri/Misc/Vegas%20Screenshot%201.JPG

That is a link to a screenshot of my vegas mp3 problem. The max i can get is
as you can see 56kbit @ 24hz

i will try and use lame..and report back

Paul, I have looked your snapshot...
Its All right and you do not have any problems
Before you renderig mp3 audio only (or another (non *avi) video format)
Now you want render video with a soundtrack, but a sound parameters its one, and a video (video for window (*avi))+audio its others - so it in the program preferences, options and ets (name this as you want ;-) - this is International ISO Standarts (For example - in professional MPEG-4 *avi video you never see VBR *mp3 audio)

If you want to keep a sound in *mp3 with one higher bitrate:
1 use external *mp3 codecs
2 save (render) a video & audio separately, and then simply "stick" them in a VirtualDub by use "Direct streem Copy"

I did some tests a while ago with MC's filter to compare to vegas's 'reduce interlace flicker' - it was heaps sharper in most areas.

IIRC I captured as normal, left the clip properties as interlaced LFF. Project set to none (progressive) and rendered to progressive.

I am looking for a run down on the settings withing the filter too. I'll send Mike an email..

BTW I just noticed Mike has updated the filter as of the 9 june.

If you are using this monitor to colour correct, I hope your svhs o/p from video card is better than mine - it's contrast and brightness are all over the place, I wouldn't trust in 1/24th as far as I could throw it :)

I always connect a tv via firewire (through my camera) for final colour correction, brightness, contrast, etc.

Cheers

Okay, I can't believe I'm the only one who has noticed this

I've got a DVX100 Letterbox project, shot in 24AP

I monitor with an external 20" Sony Wega, brand new.

It chops of the right and left edges of the image maybe 5% on each side when editing. Its the same on any TV or monitor.

I looked at the properties-- set to NTSC DV24p, just like the whitepaper says to, since this is not really widescreen, but letterboxed by the DVX, and follows the production workflow in the Vegas Whitepaper for the DVX100 projects.

I first noticed that the PREVIEW window in Vegas is DISTORTED-- smashed down, rather than exactly perfect ration- the whole image is there, but its squished.

Further, my EXTERNAL PREVIEW MONITOR clearly has chopped off the right and left image edges. !!

The ONLY CURE is to go into the PROPERTIES box and in PIXEL ASPECT RATIO reselect SQUARE PIXEL instead of the default NTSC DV .9091 which is what is selected according to the Sony Vegas Whitepaper for DVX projects.

This restores the missing portions of the video image edges on my monitor and also puts my Vegas preview window in a correct unsquished state.

?????????? How could they get this wrong in the whitepaper recommendations?

THEN-- when I render the file for DVD Architect, I have to do the same thing-- as when I select the suggested default Mainconcept MPEG-2 file, if I leave it as default-- I get the same chopped off edges in my rendered file and subsequent DVD. If I modify the suggested default settings and again choose Custom/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio and select SQUARE-- my DVD comes out with the correct whole picture showing instead of the edges missing.

If I don't render with square pixels, the resultant MPEG file and subsequent burned DVD is flattened, and once again the edges are missing.

SO what gives? How come no one is talking about this? The one note I've found in regard to this in the Vegas manual says square pixels should not be used for stuff ending up on TV, but its the ONLY way to get the image to look right in both external monitor preivew and rendered and burned DVDs

????????

Neil Slade
www.NeilSlade.com

I agree.... your snapshot is of the AVI renderers. You're not looking at the MP3 file type. Change the "Save As Type" to MP3 and see what presets you have available.