Am i missing something (ie. it's hidden in another filter) or is there no other normalize in vegas other than the one in a clip's properties? not even a destructive edit i could make? the normalize i'm looking at doesn't let you specify head room.

I don't think the volume envelopes work down to sample-level accuracy.

Usually you don't need to go that far, but if you do, Vegas' integrationg with Sound Forge is excellent. It keeps takes of the edits you make in Sound Forge. So you can undo destructive edits.

Vegas does get into the subframe level, which allows you to make good dialogue edits.

2- Workaround for Normalize: Normalize, and then drop the volume on the clip.

Workaround2: In the Vegas settings, you can set what level to normalize to.

awesome, thanks glenn.

For the record, Avid XpressProHD cuts sound down to the quarter frame level.

iTunes isn't so much the problem, as the Apple Store. I use iTunes on my PC and don't have any problems. I'd never buy from somewhere with some DRM style thing on it. I just buy the CD's and rip them.


Aaron

Ed,

The mystery is solved - thanks to you. I was about to describe the effect I was seeing as picture-in-picture when I noticed a thread about .. PIP.

When I read your newsletters I knew I had inadvertantly switched on track motion somewhere along the line; and so it was. I was seeing the sides of a large PIP box. Using your excellent instruction I resized the box in track motion and things are looking up.

Many many thanks. Great newsletter. You are a wonderful human being.


Lorraine

Glad to hear you found the answer!

A quick way to tell if Track Motion is in use: There will be a small keyframe track below the video track when Track Motion is active.

<<<-- Originally posted by Shannon Rawls : <<<-- Originally posted by John C. Chu :
A quick and dirty way is burn the song on CD and then reimport the song back in. -->>>

Good idea John. And not that dirty actually. it still maintains a very high bitrate and quality.

Problem solved.

- Shannon W. Rawls -->>>

Yep, I posted this awhile back when I was having issues getting music into a wedding video. That ended up being my solution which worked quite well. Shannon, I wouldn't sweat the iTunes thing much. On a pc, just fire up any wave file recorder and hit play in itunes. To borrow your words...'problem solved'. :)

-gb-

Avid also has a direct connection with Pro tools, think of it in the way Vegas and SoundForge can be coupled together.. Avid and ProTools works in a simialr fashion.

i guess with Vegas 6, theyll be implementing numerous new features most likely already found in the new version of Acid and soundforge 8....

One thing I would like, would be to control CC Data of a hardware/softsynth via an envelope within a "midi send" track within Vegas..
This way i can literally set filter cut offs, resonance, effects etc etc and any other control via midi to my Hardware and have it all synced within vegas.. right now, im using vegas to trigger orion, which in turn is triggering soft synths and other studio sound gear.. and its realy realy twistchy coz they tweaks are supposed to be synced to the footage.. but if i cant see the footage i need to play it by ear and frames.

Now having a midi send would be good.. this'll help with scoring and offer precise control of effects and tweaks for those who use external hardware to create soudn effects and music which needs to go with the footage.. at least this way u can actaully see the footage..

another trick is to overlay a new video track with your new footage.. and only using that new cut OVER your original edit. this way insted of reshuffling teh whole lot, you can literally move all the events across, add your new piece with its paired sound fx etc, then move everything back.
I do this with alot of corporate stuff as i collate material from different sources.. it needs to be added in parts which i have already edited and it saves aot of hassle..

thanks for the replies. next time i have to do this, i'll try taking some of your advice.
if i run into any other problems, i'll let you know.

thanks again,
adi

Ed, Sorry I did'nt get back right away. I re-named the file and everything is back to normal. ????

If it happens again I'll send it to you. Than I'll have myself commited. :)

i know that in terms of Macromedia and Adobe academic/educational licenses always stipulate that you are to use their "academic" license versions for training purposes but you can't create commercial DVDs to sell to prospective clients for money, is taht the case with Vegas as well? is that a sort of rule of thumb for video editing software or content creation softare in general?

but honestly, how many popular short films out there get examined by licensing divisions of software companies? ya know?

That's the rule with ANY software. That's why it's called the "Academic" version and not the "Commercial" version. If you are ever in doubt you can always consult the end user license agreement or the purchase agreement you agreed to when you bought it.

Technically, the license agreement is the same for either the standard or academic versions. Although, if you're going to be making money from it, you *should* be able to aford the standard version.

To be 100% sure, you can always check with customer service.

Just wondering if Grafittt is able to generate and animate titles as well as Live Type?

If not, which program would you use?

I had the same problem viewing homework, stopped after only a few seconds.

I went to your website and downloaded the AVI version and got a good chuckle. I thought the effects were well done!

Now that is a VERY interesting thing to know! Funny how these
things sometimes work eh.

Brian: I would advice you to look around the board for answers
of those questions. There are numerous threads (especially in
the HDV specific camera forums!) on your subjects. How to get
progressive from the interlaced camera's etc. This thread talks
about progressive PAL to progressive NTSC 24 fps.

same problem here. 3000 half downloads u got there

Yes it will animate text.

Thank you guys for information, I will recode again, and see what's goin on with it.

Total newbie here. I know this is probably an easy question to this, but I can't figure it out. I am trying to add audio effects to only a certain audio clip in the time line, but whenever I do, the effects come out on the entire track, all the clips even though I have split the audio clips on the timeline. For example, I want to change the pitch only on a certain section of video, but the whole video ends up being changed. There has to be an easy solution to this.....


Thanks,
BK

split the audio track at both the front and back ends of the area you wish to appy the audio effect and that should solve your problem

Don B

You have two options:

1) Apply the effect to that one segment as a "Apply Non real-time Event FX"

2) Move that one segment to a new track and apply the effect to the new track (remember, you can have as many as needed)

I vote for #2.

What did you use for the fireworks and smoke in her hands?

duh! I feel like an idiot. I guess #2 should have been pretty obvious to me.

Thanks a bunch!
BK

I had a copy of music video footage that I cut and played around with. I did the editing and color correction in Vegas. I did a presentation on the color correction part of it to a Toronto Final Cut Pro User's Group meeting, and you can see my notes at
http://www.glennchan.info/fcpugto/

You can download Quicktimes of the final music video, plus a side-by-side comparison of the uncorrected footage versus the final footage. As well, there are lots of roll-over images showing the steps I took.

A lot of it is aimed towards Final Cut Pro users but I believe it should have enough detail that Vegas users can figure out how to do it. I am very open to questions so if anyone wants instructions on how I did (blah) then I'd be glad to answer it. Just add a reply to this thread.

particleIllusion
http://www.wondertouch.com/default.asp
very easy to use.

Vegas DVD comes with menu background presets of course, but how can I expand and/or download new menu background designs?

A valid question, but you are aware that you can use any still or video as the menu background, yes?

Gary

See you there, Ray!

http://www.vasst.com/NABParty.htm is where you can find information and register for the Vegas Users Group event being held at NAB.

DVInfo.net and HDVInfo.net are sponsors of this event. If you are a registered attendee to the party, you'll get free drinks, food, and a special gift from sponsors. Walk-ins won't get nada.

Geez, I gotta get back round to this forum more often. The HDV and Audio forums keep me away from here too much. Been busy!

Hope to see a bunch of you at the NAB event!

I plan to be there! Who else is coming???

Plus, there are a few extra themes on the Sony site.

A two-pass VBR encode using Procode 2 of a fifteen minute video took two hours (i.e., ran at 1/4-real time.) Is this normal? I have a 1.9GHz P4. I used 2-3 layers with no filters, and cuts or cross-fades for transitions.

Is there a quality hit in encoding a DV render rather than frameserving?

Out of curiosity, how long did a 2-pass VBR encode straight in Vegas take? And if you look at the two, can you see any difference?

My understanding is that you would take a slight quality hit but, considering the end result is MPEG2, you probably wouldn't be able to see the difference.

Thank you both for alleviating my ignorance. :D

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : I plan to be there! Who else is coming??? -->>>

Me!

Not sure if this can be done in vegas or not, or maybe another app somewhere.

I have a bunch of dv clips that I got handed to me and they are not indentified very well. Is there a way for Vegas to display the date information, so I know when the video was shot? Or is there a way to view the avi file in windows and be able to tell when the video was shot?

Thanks

In the media pool, change it to "detail" mode. One of the columns will include the date/time of the first frame.

Wow, thanks, that does exactly what I need.

Thanks again.

Me too! It's gonna be great to meet you guys in person!

The best part of trade show events like these, is putting a face to a name. Can't wait!

It rendered to DV in one hour. A subsequent one-pass render in Procoder took 25 minutes (60%-real time)

In other words, the time lost due to the frameserver is negligible. The quality is the same (it's only DV, after all.) Good to know.

Me

So you take all of your footage that you shot and without any editing what-so-ever, not even trimming it all up at all, you convert it all to 24p?

What do you do after that? I don't see how that would be better than just having everything at least edited together, without any effects or anything. So if you have a 10 minute movie......edit it together, then produce the 24p from 60i, how would that be much different?

Although the only problem I see is with the audio. Say you want to mix into 5.1. If you don't no biggie, but if you do, then you are forced into having the sound be on 1 track of audio unless you copy a bunch of dupes onto other tracks to set the pans and effects and such.

I sometimes use Cubase to handle ALL the audio since it's about 10x easier to mix with than Vegas as far as using effects and writing automation. It does require an extra step, but it certainly doesn't degrade any audio.....if not make it better.

All in all, why is rendering before editing better? Would using Adobe's Magic Bullet 1.5 better than Vegas's 24p? I have that.

This would require some fancy managing of files, that's for sure.

Thanks Glenn!

Anyone want to fly me up? <g> Seriously, have a great time guys!

The quality is NOT the same if you have done any effects or other
changes to the frames except a straight cut. Frame serving is done
in an uncompressed manner. DV is a 5:1 lossy compression that
tosses away information, so if it needs to re-encode (which it
needs to do for everything except straight cuts) you will loose
information.

Whether it is visible in the end result is a different matter,
personally I would just use the frameserver to get the best
quality I can. No need (for me) to cut corners there.

Well... that wasn't exactly the question I asked. I wanted a comparison between frameserving to Procoder 2-pass vs rendering straight from the timeline with the MainConcept 2-pass. Then what was the speed difference/quality difference between the two MPEG2 files?